TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #26

[Texasmom]

I pray that soon we will find Hailey,,,,,I personally, would love to find her alive,,,,and me check myself into therapy for all of these evil, horrible, disgusting thoughts going through my mind of what happened to her. This happened twenty five miles from me and I feel so helpless.... I feel like MY family is endangered and am on SERIOUS protective mode,,,,,,,, my husband says Im going a little crazy on the thoughts,and all I can say is ......... I am not the one who lives likes this,,,,,,,to understand them is to think like them,,,,,,,,,,,and that my friend,,,,,,,is on the brink of crazy

 

[cloudajo]

Jan 4th raw interview with Shawn - starting at about :37. I tried to transcribe as best I could.

Reporter: What did you see that day when you walked in the door?

Shawn: Like I said, she was just in the living room, watching TV, nothing out of the normal.

Reporter: And when she walked out the door, was it just business as usual? What was happening during the last few minutes when you saw her?

Shawn: Umm, she just told me ya know, “Shawn, I’m gonna go by my dad’s, and then I’m gonna stay with my friend MB, please tell my mom.” Just like every ordinary day, ya know, ‘cause she comes and goes like that quite a bit.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

 

[cloudajo]

For reference, here are the dates/times of Hailey's posts on FB.

Sat, November 13, 2010 at 12:22pm
Sun, November 21, 2010 at 8:34pm
Mon, November 22, 2010 at 11:00am
Mon, November 22, 2010 at 12:46pm
Mon, November 22, 2010 at 1:32pm
Tue, November 23, 2010 at 2:33pm
Tue, November 23, 2010 at 2:46pm
Tue, November 23, 2010 at 2:50pm
Hailey installed the iPhone application on her phone..
Fri, November 26, 2010 at 12:48am via iPhone.
Fri, November 26, 2010 at 2:05am
Fri, November 26, 2010 at 10:47am via iPhone
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 5:18pm via iPhone.
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 5:29pm via iPhone.
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 9:20pm
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 9:31pm
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 10:05pm via iPhone.
Sat, November 27, 2010 at 11:46pm via iPhone.
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 12:14am via iPhone
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 12:20am via iPhone
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 12:32am
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 10:51am
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 11:44am
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 2:19pm via iPhone
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 2:35pm via iPhone.
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 3:17pm via iPhone.
Sun, November 28, 2010 at 3:48pm
Sat, December 11, 2010 at 3:05pm
Sat, December 11, 2010 at 3:07pm
Sat, December 11, 2010 at 4:27pm
Sat, December 11, 2010 at 4:51pm via iPhone.
Sat, December 11, 2010 at 8:03pm via iPhone.
Sun, December 12, 2010 at 9:25am via iPhone.
Sun, December 12, 2010 at 10:28am via iPhone
Wed, December 22, 2010 at 10:40am via iPhone
Wed, December 22, 2010 at 11:23am via iPhone.

 

[jen&jonhart]

What grade was Hailey in - 7th or 8th? And was she the only girl without a cell phone? The way it is these days I'm betting she was close to it. No disrespect - I am single mom of 3, but I also know how important self image is to teen girls. A cheap prepaid phone wouldn't have cost that much.


The ipod - was it lost or hawked?? (pawned). I just wonder about that. I know it's not easy supporting 2 kids, but Billie had 2 incomes if you include SA's - though we don't know what he did with his money - whether he contributed or was a minus in that situation.

Billie - there are a lot of us single moms out there - we do what we have to do. But please, if you are lying or covering up because of whatever reason - stop. Sure - it had nothing to do with Hailey, but people get hung up on that and can't see past that sometimes. Be honest - and look at what's in front of you. I was conned....and I am very bright, never thought it would happen to me. But it did and I had my head stuck in the sand. Don't be ashamed. Let's bring Hailey home.

I guess I must be a terrible mom because my 16 yearold dosnt have a cell phone nor does my 17 year old son. Since we lost one of our babies and I had to leave my job then my hubby got laid off, we only have 1 prepaid phone and a land line. Yes all their friends have phones and ipods but we just cant afford that. We share 1 prepaid phone.

 

[mommy23]

Thank you for sharing your story - that's very helpful in trying to understand what may could be going on in the house. What happens if you add alcohol into the mix (we know SA is a beer drinker). Doesn't mixing pills and booze completely change the picture? I just wonder if he took 1 too many pills, mixed it with some beers, and did something to Hailey? No excuse, but he may not even know what he did (blackout). Curious as to your thoughts on this.

JMOpinion of course.

Mel

Oh forgot to mention my daily drinking habit in the mix of everything else :innocent: How it was for me, the pills made me feel high sometimes, and sometimes just normal, I would drink 6-12 beers a day, or 1-3 bottles of wine during this time of my life, and IMO, the alcohol always just made me sleepy, when mixed with the pills. I have never had a "blackout" expierence. I have been drunk/high enough to not remember going to bed, but that was always cause I fell asleep wherever I was (couch, dining room, friends house) and hubby made sure I made it safely to bed. He is a good man, glad he stuck with me :great::rocker:

 

[Texasmom]

I would love to see what those posts say

 

[SailorMoon]

I guess I must be a terrible mom because my 16 yearold dosnt have a cell phone nor does my 17 year old son. Since we lost one of our babies and I had to leave my job then my hubby got laid off, we only have 1 prepaid phone and a land line. Yes all their friends have phones and ipods but we just cant afford that. We share 1 prepaid phone.

Oh geeze, no your not and I am going to delete my post. I was just going by what I see where I live. I'm sure you pay attention to your kids though. I was just trying to understand what kind of life Hailey really had.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I heard Billie tell NG that's what Hailey did .. take nothing, and when Hailey came home the next day, then she would brush her teeth, shower, and put on clean clothes.

I don't have the link, maybe someone else does. If I go look for it, this thread will be closed and possibly the next thread, too, at the rate you guys are sleuthing and posting!

Here you go:

http://www.livedash.com/transcript/nancy_grace/5100/HLN/Tuesday_January_4_2011/542845/

00:02:54 If she was planning a sleepover, I don't really see that she would have dragged a bag along with her, but let's ask the mom.
00:03:03 Billi dunn is with us, joining us from colorado city, texas.
00:03:07 Miss dunn, when she would typically go for a sleepover, would she take a bag and take a lot of stuff with her?
00:03:12 >> Nothing ll.
00:03:13 >> Okay.
00:03:18 >> She would -- >> go ahead, dear.
00:03:21 >> She would just go over there with whatever was on her back, and wait until the next day to come home, brush her teeth, take a bath, freshen up.
00:03:28 >> Right.
00:03:29 Right.
00:03:29 That makes perfect sense to me.
00:03:30 So the fact that she did not take anything with her, that doesn't strike you as unusual.
00:03:38 >> Right.
That's why I'm getting worried that maybe my baby didn't leave on her own for this long amount of time.
00:03:45 >> Okay.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Was school still in session on the 22nd of Dec.? Did Hailey go to the middle school, grades 6-9 ?

 

[Coldpizza]

I pray that soon we will find Hailey,,,,,I personally, would love to find her alive,,,,and me check myself into therapy for all of these evil, horrible, disgusting thoughts going through my mind of what happened to her. This happened twenty five miles from me and I feel so helpless.... I feel like MY family is endangered and am on SERIOUS protective mode,,,,,,,, my husband says Im going a little crazy on the thoughts,and all I can say is ......... I am not the one who lives likes this,,,,,,,to understand them is to think like them,,,,,,,,,,,and that my friend,,,,,,,is on the brink of crazy

Hang in there Texasmom, we all understand how you feel. Many of us have followed these cases for years so we tend to sleuth and put our feelings aside. It doesn't mean our hearts aren't on our sleeves when we do so, it doesn't mean we arent more aware of our surroundings and hug our loved ones less. It just means we care for all of the missing. Sometimes we all take a step back when a case gets to us though.((((hugs))))

 

[Zoe Bogart]

IMO....H did not die in her bed.....

The LE took her sheets....and after a person dies, body fluids(sorry) are expelled...

Not always. I've been around at the death of several people as well as animals and none expelled body fluids.

Yes, it happens, but not all the time.

You are correct about the sheets though. Specialists could tell a lot from those sheets if anything out of the norm for a young girl was showing up on them.

 

[Paulette]

I guess I must be a terrible mom because my 16 yearold dosnt have a cell phone nor does my 17 year old son. Since we lost one of our babies and I had to leave my job then my hubby got laid off, we only have 1 prepaid phone and a land line. Yes all their friends have phones and ipods but we just cant afford that. We share 1 prepaid phone.

Of course you're not a bad mom! The ruination of many a teen is their cell phone & facebook & myspace, etc. Geez...how many generations survived the teen years without a cell phone? Too numerous to count!

 

[Linda7NJ]

What I found odd. After Billie speaks with her son and gets him to text MB's house for Hailey and Billie learns she never stayed there...My first thought would be SHAWN must have been mistaken and named the wrong girl. I would call him immediately and ask him again, ARE YOU SURE she said MB? I wonder if she did that?

 

[cluciano63]

Thanks for the list of when H posted to her FB; almost always on weekends, so she either stayed someplace with internet, or they do have it at home? Very few posts during the week. Yet I thought we heard her dad does not have it either?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

:floorlaugh:

I am a born, bred, die-hard phins fan. But.......................well.........................its kinda over for them. My DH is the same for the Steelers (plus he works structural steel) - so since my team's out and his is still in I changed it for him.

Sorry mods for the O/T - I was really wondering if someone would ask.

I never ask when folks come over to the Steel Side!!!! (Glad to have ya!!)

 

[ThoughtFox]

I guess I must be a terrible mom because my 16 yearold dosnt have a cell phone nor does my 17 year old son. Since we lost one of our babies and I had to leave my job then my hubby got laid off, we only have 1 prepaid phone and a land line. Yes all their friends have phones and ipods but we just cant afford that. We share 1 prepaid phone.

Of course you're not a bad mom! The ruination of many a teen is their cell phone & facebook & myspace, etc. Geez...how many generations survived the teen years without a cell phone? Too numerous to count!

My daughter in high school received a free cellphone from the school as a reward for being a teen representative on the local School Board. For years that was the only cellphone in our house. She had no problems with it, so we got our middle son a cellphone in high school and he proceeded to waste time night and day on it and I wish we had turned it off immediately, but my husband let him keep it until he got into even more trouble. So his phone has been off and on for years. Right now, it is off. We aren't planning to get our younger son a cellphone until he graduates from high school.

My husband has a cellphone, but I don't - I use the landline mostly and it doesn't bother me one bit.

 

[claudicici]

IMO he seems to try to hold back excitement in that interview.He's trying not to blink but I see a sick excitement in his eyes,like he's trying hard not to smile and is thrilled being interviewed.JMO.
As for Billie I completely give her the benefit of doubt.As of now I don't believe she's involved at all and I don't see anything she said as a lie just some misunderstandings and I am actually impressed by how she's dealing with this horrific situation.I can see the pain eating her up inside even though she's trying to keep it together and keep the focus on Hailey.JMO

 

[brownies]

IMO....H did not die in her bed.....

The LE took her sheets....and after a person dies, body fluids(sorry) are expelled...

I am no dr./medical person/by any means...but...if H had died in her bed, and her sheets showed evidence of that...IMO.......the LE would come back for the mattress and conduct an exam for signs for blood, weapons....an INTENSE search/examination...including the premises....

IMO.....I believe H was drugged...the night before....and the perp came back and just took her right out...quick. easy, quiet....no struggle...

Reasons I believe that...(at this time)she was drugged..

. nothing of her missing
. no sign of a struggle(that we know of)
. no phone call from H before leaving the house

Reasons I believe the perp did not wake her and tell her to come with him..it was an emergency..
. H would have taken her hoody
. H would have probably made a phone call
. witnesses may have seen her with him in a vehicle...

IMO...the perp did NOT want H to be seen with him...leaving in a vehicle..(witnesses)

IMO...he drugged her...the night before...to make it quick and easy the next day for him to remove her...

IMO...it would be easier to remove a victim from a bed...drugged...than to wake one and insist/force/commotion/screaming....attention...from an awake one who is fearful of you.

If someone was going to remove a teenager out of a bed and make them go with you somewhere, how could that deed be done in a very short time..with NO resistance from her....????.....this is how I see it done.....(for now)

all in my own opinion and my 2 cents...

I agree, that she was taken out of her home. However, there have been numerous children taken from their homes without a peep: Elizabeth Smart,
and Jessica Lundsford come to mind. A weapon aimed or held on someone, adult or child, would allow someone to get them out without a sound. I think, (IMHO), that she was taken out after SA left work. Quietly, wothout a struggle. What he did were after that ... is the big question. Does he have her held captive somewhere? It IS a possibility.

 

[sreshowtime]

I guess I must be a terrible mom because my 16 yearold dosnt have a cell phone nor does my 17 year old son. Since we lost one of our babies and I had to leave my job then my hubby got laid off, we only have 1 prepaid phone and a land line. Yes all their friends have phones and ipods but we just cant afford that. We share 1 prepaid phone.

OT-Honey, don't apologize...many of us made it thru our own teens without all that mess, and even raised our kids the same way.
IMHO- You may be better off than you think hugs & blessings

 

[jen&jonhart]

Oh geeze, no your not and I am going to delete my post. I was just going by what I see where I live. I'm sure you pay attention to your kids though. I was just trying to understand what kind of life Hailey really had.

Oh no please dont delete. I was just saying beleive me they would love one and if I could afford it they would have a prepaid. Yes we keep very close tabs on our kids. If you can afford to buy drugs yes you could get your kid's a phone kwim.