TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #9

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TGIRecovered said:
There is an informal group from Abilene who posted on a newspaper comment section that they would meet at Sam's Club parking lot this morning to head out to search. I did not go for several reasons:

1) The citizen search apparently allows anyone with no ID, background check, training or knowledge of what to look for and how to avoid contaminating, documenting or missing anything.

2) If they find anything, I doubt you could get a real person on the phone to have professionals come out and collect it.

3) Surely Texas Rangers would prefer a professional organization such as Equisearch to be organizing the searchers if they thought Hailey was out there. Tim Miller requires ID. Does not allow sex offenders to participate and instructs everyone on safety and how to avoid contaminating evidence. An experienced Equisearch volunteer leads each small group to an assigned grid area.


I commend everyone who is out there looking for Hailey! I am sure that the citizens would have preferred to have some instruction, organization and leadership from someone who has done this over and over for years.

As it is, ordinary folks have had to step up to the plate and lead a missing child field search for the very first time. Any defense attorney will be able to have whatever they find thrown right out of court. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry will have had their footprints and DNA all over Mitchell County by the end of the day, with no reliable record or proof of who went where.

It's not the citizens' fault...someone has to do it!
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BBM-Just an FYI, I have put the link to the SAR resource guide for communities (www.4themissing.net) on the FB page several times as well as tried to help organize the searches by using the discussion tabs with limited or no success.

In terms of evidence, there's a lot of factors going on here. I've seen a whole lot of cases where evidence got thrown out and it was collected by LE, even more when SAR was involved, so it's an issue no matter what. A person doesn't need a lot of training to do the most that they can to ensure its integrity. I repeat multiple times in the guide, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING. It really doesn't take any training, just spend a 1/2 hour to go over the guide and it has it covered. Either flag the item, mark the coords/location and report it to LE or if you believe it to be very import then do not touch it, stay with it and call it in and get LE there (or if you have no coverage send someone for LE and stay with it).

I was a SAR purist for a very long time. "SAR and nobody else" was my attitude. I have come to realize that while this might sound good in theory it is flawed and not reality. Locals have knowledge that you can't find on maps. Locals have manpower that you sometimes can't get with smaller SAR groups. Then there is the issue that sometimes SAR is not called in at all, so what do you do? Sit by idly and just wait? No, a community shouldn't, but they need to be a little educated and organized and there needs to be a paper trail (again all this is available via a website). Even when a SAR operation is going, volunteers can be extremely useful in clearing area that are outside the scope of the official search, but again, there needs to be some basic knowledge and documentation.
 
passionflower said:
What are oil fields like?
Deep wells?
I have no idea, but SA knows oil fields?
Does anyone know if he hunted or fished? (guns/knives)
I'm hoping someone is over at BD house so she can sleep
and not have to answer the door/phone etc.
I'm afraid of her collapsing like Haleigh's mom, Crystal.
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passionflower, I think you might've signed off last nite when we were talking about oil wells & oil fields...here's the page where I responded to your questions...read on from there & there's other folks knowledge added, too....HTH

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124710&page=18
 
Texas Mist said:
passionflower, I think you might've signed off last nite when we were talking about oil wells & oil fields...here's the page where I responded to your questions...read on from there & there's other folks knowledge added, too....HTH

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124710&page=18
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On the subject of the wells/pipes... I wanted to add my post from the previous thread:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5981508&postcount=519"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #8[/ame]

I'm sure there must be are old/uncapped wells and pipes out there? Just a thought. (Thinking of the whole Baby Jessica thing...)
 
Texas Mist said:
passionflower, I think you might've signed off last nite when we were talking about oil wells & oil fields...here's the page where I responded to your questions...read on from there & there's other folks knowledge added, too....HTH

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124710&page=18
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Thanks so much, never saw one.........I was thinking of something else like wells we have in PA.
Pix are great! Thanks.

Now does C city have septic tanks??? water wells???
 
FYI - Find Hailey Dunn FB page is gone... probably because of the ignorant people that were posting finding items during the search.

Sorry, if this has already been mentioned
 
StrayKat said:
FYI - Find Hailey Dunn FB page is gone... probably because of the ignorant people that were posting finding items during the search.

Sorry, if this has already been mentioned
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It's still there.
 
Sheik, you need to read the first post on this thread before you get this thread locked up. You cannot sleuth the parents, they are victims and not named as suspects.
 
imamaze said:
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Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-128-5294

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All is well. Just remember to read the first post. :blowkiss:
 
Actually it's all fact. In a missing child situation, don't be so quick to rule out the parents.
 
StrayKat said:
FYI - Find Hailey Dunn FB page is gone... probably because of the ignorant people that were posting finding items during the search.

Sorry, if this has already been mentioned
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I just found it, and it is still active.
 
This case is confusing me! I'm trying to keep up, but that seems impossible.

Hailey, I pray today is the day you come home safe!
 
Kimster said:
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I just happen to be very interested in Hailey and was getting my updates.
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I know, me too. I think it's the very small town or something that reminds me of our town, I can't stop thinking of her.
 
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