TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

[Jethro4WS]

This SW is for BB's FB, including all login IPs, messages, etc. And it states that the victim MB had an affair with KC and that MB used FB's messaging function to contact others. Why would that information be listed in a SW for BB's account? I've asked this before but I think it's worth discussing. Maybe this is important. What could LE learn from BB's account that would be supported by mentioning how MB used her own FB account?

For what it is worth I haven't figured that out and it does seem odd to me. Clearly at the time BB would still have been someone high on MPD's list. And they did specifically say:

"In the course of investigating this crime Affiant has developed probable cause to believe that Brandon Keith Bevers is the spouse of the victim of this crime, and that Brandon Keith Bevers has been using a computer to access the Facebook social media website and has engaged in message transactions constituting evidence in this murder investigation and possibly other offenses."

I think that should have been enough. So it does perplex me that we see the KC reference here at all with respect only to MB.

One other thing that interests me is that neither this FB warrant nor the FB warrant for MB mentions the "puncture wounds" description part of the murder that were in other warrants.

 

[No it's not]

This SW is for BB's FB, including all login IPs, messages, etc. And it states that the victim MB had an affair with KC and that MB used FB's messaging function to contact others. Why would that information be listed in a SW for BB's account? I've asked this before but I think it's worth discussing. Maybe this is important. What could LE learn from BB's account that would be supported by mentioning how MB used her own FB account?

The (alleged) affair between KC and MB can be a motive leading to probable cause for BB possibly being involved in the murder of his wife (ordered hit). Therefore they want to see, if and with whom he had possibly communicated ( text, pics possibly indicating a "go ahead"/abort or eventual changes/ adjustments) with in a time frame spanning from prior, during to shortly after MB's murder. JMO

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

For what it is worth I haven't figured that out and it does seem odd to me. Clearly at the time BB would still have been someone high on MPD's list. And they did specifically say:

"In the course of investigating this crime Affiant has developed probable cause to believe that Brandon Keith Bevers is the spouse of the victim of this crime, and that Brandon Keith Bevers has been using a computer to access the Facebook social media website and has engaged in message transactions constituting evidence in this murder investigation and possibly other offenses."

I think that should have been enough. So it does perplex me that we see the KC reference here at all with respect only to MB.

One other thing that interests me is that neither this FB warrant nor the FB warrant for MB mentions the "puncture wounds" description part of the murder that were in other warrants.

BBM

Did the LEO wanted to make sure the warrant would be heavily weighted? Just statistically speaking they were and still are not very experienced, when it comes to homicide cases due to lack thereof..

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

Re-watching the video over and over I am still stumbling upon the door to the right of the coffe grounds or the SW corner of the interior sanctuary part. You can see in marker 1:10 ff how SP looks at that door or the coffee grounds sign, but moves on around the corner to the double dutch doors.

Walking down the W main hallway, SP is opening the door to the right of the bulletin board. He tries to break open the locked door on the left of the bulletin board, he gives up and walks over to the double dutch doors and propped these open. He walks over to the next door on the right and we cannot see, what he did here. Could be, that the door was locked as well ? When SP turns back and now walks the S hallway in Western direction, that door looks still shut. So I assume it was locked indeed. He then enters or tries to enter the sanctuary through that double door. I cannot make out a moving shadow or a moving light to be sure he indeed enters that inner part of the building, or if he had to break something to enter. But since he is smoothly entering that alcove and not seen moving back to start swinging at the lock or glass, I assume, he is indeed entering into the sanctuary.

Again, why did he not open up or try to open up the coffee grounds door? If he is a burglar, there may be some petty cash located behind that door.

There is a pattern in the published video of opening the doors to the rooms located on the outer perimeter of the building. I like to see, if this pattern also occurs in the remaining unpublished video and if any doors were propped open in the other parts of the church.

So, MPD, could you please publish that remaining part of the video?

Thanks,
Nin

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
We never saw any clips from a NW corner camera. Makes me think it wasn't working or there wasn't one.

Also, the SW camera picked up SP
In the main hallway but only at a certain spot after the West hall main entrance.

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MPD says they have more video so the jury is still out on whether or not some cameras were not working. Yes the SW camera looking North did. But I am saying I believe there is a camera in the middle of the west hallway aimed right at the giant glass entryway there otherwise it would be rather silly to have cameras at other entry ways if someone could just go in through the big doors in front unseen.

JMHO there is a camera added but unsure as to when from between posting picture with squirrel 3/9/2015 https://www.facebook.com/1793451023...79345102342/10152633605397343/?type=3&theater

until July 13, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/1793451023...79345102342/10153593170677343/?type=3&theater ** Under the air vent near CUB CORNER can be seen in the reflection in mirror.

 

[ezrah]

bumping this to ask if anyone knows how to clean this picture up so that the glares from the outside shining on the doors are eliminated.
I see the white (things) many have referenced but I'm not seeing a head, bending over person, squatting person etc.
TIA

I played around w the pic. The red dots outline what I see as a person stooping down, the 2 yellow dots what I think are a white glove, other a shoe cover bootie or possibly 2 gloves JMO

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[arkansasmimi]

Yes. I have been busy with the holidays and I am trying to catch up. It appears to be a spot in the west hall past the single "cut out" column on the south side of the west hall. It appears to me to be not all that far from where SP was first seen on camera in that hall. Don't know what they were doing in that screen cap but they were looking at something.

JMHO it is past the full mirror but not too far. And before the door that Suspect opened. As you are able to see the left corner of the big mirror.

 

[Mistree]

I played around w the pic. The red dots outline what I see as a person stooping down, the 2 yellow dots what I think are a white glove, other a shoe cover bootie or possibly 2 gloves JMO

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Thank you for doing this, my eyes are seeing all kinds of things now. Lol

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
well I wasn't gonna say I thought that too when I was thinking when I saw maybe 2 people shadows kneeling/squatting. But didn't want to sound way out there. Just thankful that someone else saw what I was seeing on the white images lol To me maybe something like a marker in (looking straight at photo the white image to left maybe placing a marker?) Again it so far away...could be our eyes and mind seeing something else. But I def believe it CSI personnel.

And the reason I posted the ATF K9 going through that front entrance, JMHO I still feel strong that they were clearing the church of any possible bomb or something since Church had been released on Monday by noon, cleaned and the prayer service was that night (Wed April 20). (one of that K9 expertise) Autopsy was completed day prior and they would have JMHO been there day before if had something to do with looking for a shell as some have opined. JMHO

The dog "Titan" was based out of Oklahoma. So that could explain why it was Wednesday when the dog was taken through considering there would be arranging availability and travel for the dog and its handler.

Respectfully BBM, could be many reasons we are unaware of. Reasoning I posted was jmho but from all we know of the K9 used at Creekside Church of Christ ... from media and ATF webpage:

"...One federal agency confirmed Wednesday night they’re assisting in the case. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) local bomb sniffing dog “Titan” and his Agent have searched the building and grounds of the church. Some clues “Titan” could hit on are cast off gun casings and gun residue. Officials didn’t say whether or not the dog provided any breaks in the case. ..." http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/04/20/creekside-churchs-exterior-cameras-off-day-of-midlothian-murder/

Name: Titan
Specialty: Explosives Detection
Breed: Labrador Retriever
Color: Yellow
Sex: Male
Weight: 73 pounds
Birthday: May 2, 2012
Training: ATF National Canine Center, Front Royal, VA.
Handler: Special Agent Canine Handler Daniel Kaase
Location: Dallas Field Division

K-9 Titan is one of four new graduates from ATF’s Search Enhanced Evidence K-9 (S.E.E.K) program and is a trained Explosives Detection Canine (EDC). He came to ATF from a local vendor at 22 months old. K-9 Titan is a very large Labrador, so his name suits him well. He has the ability to be sent off-leash to specific targets such as vehicles or luggage, up to 150 meters. Once at the target, he can be directed using hand and whistle signals to search for explosives and/or firearms. If K-9 Titan detects explosives and/or firearms he will alert his handler by sitting. By sending him down range, this provides the handler with an extra level of safety by allowing the handler to be at distance away from the target being searched.

Titan is all work and excels in open environments searching for explosive-related materials to include firearms, ammunition shell casings and explosives. Although he is large in stature, Titan leaves no small spaces unsearched. Titan’s operational home working area is the entire state of Oklahoma, North and West Texas up to the New Mexico border. When called upon, Titan always responds to the situation and is eager to serve.

K-9 Titan came to ATF from the state of Washington. He currently lives in North Texas just outside of Fort Worth with its large expanse of countryside. Titan feels right at home, because he is very rambunctious and loves to run.
https://www.atf.gov/about/k9/titan

 

[Mistree]

I played around w the pic. The red dots outline what I see as a person stooping down, the 2 yellow dots what I think are a white glove, other a shoe cover bootie or possibly 2 gloves JMO

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Right below the bottom yellow dot, it looks like a black box object. Also, to the left of the red dot just above the caution tape reflection it looks like a gym bag against the wall.
Does anyone else see this?

 

[lonetraveler]

This SW is for BB's FB, including all login IPs, messages, etc. And it states that the victim MB had an affair with KC and that MB used FB's messaging function to contact others. Why would that information be listed in a SW for BB's account? I've asked this before but I think it's worth discussing. Maybe this is important. What could LE learn from BB's account that would be supported by mentioning how MB used her own FB account?

Excellent question, IMO.

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[arkansasmimi]

Re-watching the video over and over I am still stumbling upon the door to the right of the coffe grounds or the SW corner of the interior sanctuary part. You can see in marker 1:10 ff how SP looks at that door or the coffee grounds sign, but moves on around the corner to the double dutch doors.

Walking down the W main hallway, SP is opening the door to the right of the bulletin board. He tries to break open the locked door on the left of the bulletin board, he gives up and walks over to the double dutch doors and propped these open. He walks over to the next door on the right and we cannot see, what he did here. Could be, that the door was locked as well ? When SP turns back and now walks the S hallway in Western direction, that door looks still shut. So I assume it was locked indeed. He then enters or tries to enter the sanctuary through that double door. I cannot make out a moving shadow or a moving light to be sure he indeed enters that inner part of the building, or if he had to break something to enter. But since he is smoothly entering that alcove and not seen moving back to start swinging at the lock or glass, I assume, he is indeed entering into the sanctuary.

Again, why did he not open up or try to open up the coffee grounds door? If he is a burglar, there may be some petty cash located behind that door.

There is a pattern in the published video of opening the doors to the rooms located on the outer perimeter of the building. I like to see, if this pattern also occurs in the remaining unpublished video and if any doors were propped open in the other parts of the church.

So, MPD, could you please publish that remaining part of the video?

Thanks,
Nin

The video is spliced to form the 2:27 min long version. The only reason we are seeing what released is in hopes someone would recognize the gait (what we were told from MPD)

If you look at the video you can see that the camera shut off and restarted when Suspect went into that room he open next to the bulletin board. You also notice and I know that been spoke about forever, but there is a blip. We do not see where the Suspect got the prybar it just appears when Suspect is seen trying to pry the door. NO window in that door.

Also there are no windows in that entrance to the Worship Center/Auditorium to have busted there. *Can be seen from inside photos on CCofC fb. There are also locks on the Worship Center doors from outside. Again can be seen in same photos. *Also can see in MB posted pic of the West/main hallway entrance door, but in the Dads Day video you can see the locks on front hallway doors. JMHO no way to know for sure that Suspect ever entered the Worship Center. When video first released we all thought so as that what it appears at first glance how the video spliced. Actual video may show different.

Agree on the why not try to open Holy Grounds door.

Hopefuly someday we get the Paul Harvey version lol "the rest of the story"

 

[x_files]

I'm local and trust me- the community is still talking about it. The majority of what is discussed on this thread, however, is just old information being discussed over and over again. I am not trying to denigrate the discussion in anyway with that comment- it is just that there is a lack of any new reliable information so of course what is already known will be discussed again and again. Locally, we do hear things and it does appear that people are still being questioned and re-questioned by LE. So no, I don't think the case is necessarily on the back-burner although the lack of information may make it appear that way.

thank you.

 

[Razz]

For what it is worth I haven't figured that out and it does seem odd to me. Clearly at the time BB would still have been someone high on MPD's list. And they did specifically say:

"In the course of investigating this crime Affiant has developed probable cause to believe that Brandon Keith Bevers is the spouse of the victim of this crime, and that Brandon Keith Bevers has been using a computer to access the Facebook social media website and has engaged in message transactions constituting evidence in this murder investigation and possibly other offenses."

I think that should have been enough. So it does perplex me that we see the KC reference here at all with respect only to MB.

One other thing that interests me is that neither this FB warrant nor the FB warrant for MB mentions the "puncture wounds" description part of the murder that were in other warrants.

Well, maybe he was conducting his own "dalliance" if you will and during the time MB was having an affair with KC.

I strongly think BB was indicating to someone on his FB page on the day he was leaving for his fishing trip, what was happening. Bad weather...blah, blah, blah. And then, "Hope you made it" by WH at 7:00 p.m. when he had not yet arrived in MISS when he was supposed to. He later responds back to no one in particular that it had been a long flight but had made it. And that was that. [emoji6]

Why is no one speaking of WH and why she is on the SW? Could it possibly be she and BB were having a "relationship", too. If so, how did they communicate without being obvious?



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[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by Mistree View Post
bumping this to ask if anyone knows how to clean this picture up so that the glares from the outside shining on the doors are eliminated.
I see the white (things) many have referenced but I'm not seeing a head, bending over person, squatting person etc.
TIA

I played around w the pic. The red dots outline what I see as a person stooping down, the 2 yellow dots what I think are a white glove, other a shoe cover bootie or possibly 2 gloves JMO
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Respectfully snipped for space. Thank you ezrah! I not techie but jmho here is again where I seeing multiple "people" or multiple somethings lol

 

[Oregonmama]

Well, maybe he was conducting his own "dalliance" if you will and during the time MB was having an affair with KC.

I strongly think BB was indicating to someone on his FB page on the day he was leaving for his fishing trip, what was happening. Bad weather...blah, blah, blah. And then, "Hope you made it" by WH at 7:00 p.m. when he had not yet arrived in MISS when he was supposed to. He later responds back to no one in particular that it had been a long flight but had made it. And that was that. [emoji6]

Why is no one speaking of WH and why she is on the SW? Could it possibly be she and BB were having a "relationship", too. If so, how did they communicate without being obvious?



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WH is on a lot of friends lists that are related to BB. WH comments a lot on the picture of Bb and RB when they were in Oregon, That was posted on fb.

The area they were in was Lincoln City , Oregon which is two hours away from Portland a major city in Oregon. Coastal recreational activities and a big casino is the big high
Iight there. Some of Wh's pictures on her fb look familiar to spots in Oregon.

 

[ezrah]

Right below the bottom yellow dot, it looks like a black box object. Also, to the left of the red dot just above the caution tape reflection it looks like a gym bag against the wall.
Does anyone else see this?

When I took a look again I think I see what you are referring to and also what others are seeing as possibly 1 or 2 other people there. Black dots for the black image, purple dots for maybe someone kneeling, aqua dots for possibly someone standing peering over to floor, red dots for original person stooping, yellow dots for gloves and/or booties. JMO I'm not totally confident about this but maybe.


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[ezrah]

Respectfully snipped for space. Thank you ezrah! I not techie but jmho here is again where I seeing multiple "people" or multiple somethings lol

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Oh snap I didn't see this before I updated


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[Razz]

Did the person move to Oregon, by any chance?

Who moved out to Oregon, please.
Oregon seems to be a hot spot!


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[Mistree]

119 people per day are moving here. Housing is unreal.
I don't believe anyone moved here, But VB is from Lincoln city and they visit there frequently. JMO