TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

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The bevers went with another family that is related to WH last summer to Oregon. I think WH went too, how convenient. JMO in regards to housing in Oregon, we top the list of having a hard time finding houses. We are worse then CA. :(
 
05-08-2016, 12:05 PM#977 arkansasmimi http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-12&p=12536361#post12536361
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Check this out.... If ya think they aren't working and writing many Search Warrants!! Just figured this out by accident. I thinking they have a bunch under seal JMHO
7 Search Warrants have been filed with the District Clerk office, only 3 of the 7 have the hand written Search Warrant # sheet *THAT WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.They are as listed. Meaning that the last number is for that particular SW....
1) Filed 4/21 SW16-050 Is to go into the 2012 Ford F150 at MPD & get personal items from veh (iPad and other financial paperwork) ***iPhone was NOT listed so it had to be w/ MB
4/18 Affidavit
4/18 Warrant
4/18 Warrant Return
?? can not see the Notarized date on the end of page on media page
* truck was released back to BB Click image for larger version.
2) Filed 4/27 SW16-059 Dry Cleaner warrant
4/22 Affidavit
4/22 Warrant
4/22 Warrant Return
4/27 Notarized
3) Filed 5/3 SW16-060 MB iPhone & iPad for Forensic Extraction
4/19 Affidavit
4/19 Warrant
4/20 Warrant return
4/28 Notarized

:thinking: Thinking outloud...hope not too confusing lol
JMHO, very possible that with a small town PD, there were only 49 SW issued prior to MB Case #50. The 3 of the 7 are not numbered chronological order by dates.

There are no other Clerk Filing numbers other than "FILED FOR RECORD" and date/time and District Clerk Stamp. JMHO there would be some sort of ledger within the Clerks office documenting each filing for that day. Paper trail. Which makes me wonder if there are other SW filed but for someone/something else within the case but not picked up by MSM? Example SW for xx for xx filed. For this case but not MSM Reporter not told or they do not check the daily filings? MSM has gone on to other things long ago. July 2 last press conf? How many SW has MPD issued up til todays date? And what/who are they for? Are the Sealed SWs "filed for Record" or somehow recorded at the Court Clerks office before unsealed and once unsealed then following Texas Statue "filed for record" The Judge would have to sign off on any SW so there has to be a record somewhere. :waitasec:
 
WH is on a lot of friends lists that are related to BB. WH comments a lot on the picture of Bb and RB when they were in Oregon, That was posted on fb.

The area they were in was Lincoln City , Oregon which is two hours away from Portland a major city in Oregon. Coastal recreational activities and a big casino is the big high
Iight there. Some of Wh's pictures on her fb look familiar to spots in Oregon.

JMHO, I remember long ago on RB and VB when we could still link to stuff before they went private (IIRCMothers Day? or Fathers Day) Some one had asked VB about going to work. JMHO they have that RV and I can see it possible they are now "snowbirds" North in Summer and South in Winter. I have no clue as to what kind of work they may do or if retired. Could do something that can do online? I am not seeing a big deal on this personally I guess because I do know many "Snowbirds" lol jmho And as far as WH family or whatever. BB and WH late husband were childhood friends and very close. So that also would make sense to be that other family members may also be close. Again JMHO
ETA; It appears to be absolutely Beautiful State !
 
JMHO, I remember long ago on RB and VB when we could still link to stuff before they went private (IIRCMothers Day? or Fathers Day) Some one had asked VB about going to work. JMHO they have that RV and I can see it possible they are now "snowbirds" North in Summer and South in Winter. I have no clue as to what kind of work they may do or if retired. Could do something that can do online? I am not seeing a big deal on this personally I guess because I do know many "Snowbirds" lol jmho And as far as WH family or whatever. BB and WH late husband were childhood friends and very close. So that also would make sense to be that other family members may also be close. Again JMHO
ETA; It appears to be absolutely Beautiful State !
Yes, I understand BB and WH' s husband were childhood friends.
However, he has been deceased for approximately 2 years now.

At some point, WH and MB were no longer FB friends. I wonder if it was more on MB' s side being uncomfortable with another woman being closer to BB and his family than she may have been.

The fact WH, an attractive widow is communicating ( while "innocently" on the eve of MB's murder) with MB' s husband is enough to ring some alarm bells.

And maybe there were warrants issued in other counties nearby.

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Respectfully BBM, could be many reasons we are unaware of. Reasoning I posted was jmho but from all we know of the K9 used at Creekside Church of Christ ... from media and ATF webpage:

"...One federal agency confirmed Wednesday night they’re assisting in the case. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) local bomb sniffing dog “Titan” and his Agent have searched the building and grounds of the church. Some clues “Titan” could hit on are cast off gun casings and gun residue. Officials didn’t say whether or not the dog provided any breaks in the case. ..." http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/04/20/creekside-churchs-exterior-cameras-off-day-of-midlothian-murder/

Name: Titan
Specialty: Explosives Detection
Breed: Labrador Retriever
Color: Yellow
Sex: Male
Weight: 73 pounds
Birthday: May 2, 2012
Training: ATF National Canine Center, Front Royal, VA.
Handler: Special Agent Canine Handler Daniel Kaase
Location: Dallas Field Division

K-9 Titan is one of four new graduates from ATF’s Search Enhanced Evidence K-9 (S.E.E.K) program and is a trained Explosives Detection Canine (EDC). He came to ATF from a local vendor at 22 months old. K-9 Titan is a very large Labrador, so his name suits him well. He has the ability to be sent off-leash to specific targets such as vehicles or luggage, up to 150 meters. Once at the target, he can be directed using hand and whistle signals to search for explosives and/or firearms. If K-9 Titan detects explosives and/or firearms he will alert his handler by sitting. By sending him down range, this provides the handler with an extra level of safety by allowing the handler to be at distance away from the target being searched.

Titan is all work and excels in open environments searching for explosive-related materials to include firearms, ammunition shell casings and explosives. Although he is large in stature, Titan leaves no small spaces unsearched. Titan’s operational home working area is the entire state of Oklahoma, North and West Texas up to the New Mexico border. When called upon, Titan always responds to the situation and is eager to serve.

K-9 Titan came to ATF from the state of Washington. He currently lives in North Texas just outside of Fort Worth with its large expanse of countryside. Titan feels right at home, because he is very rambunctious and loves to run.
https://www.atf.gov/about/k9/titan
Thanks. It definitely pays to read the whole thing!
 
Dang. This man's wife's killer is nowhere close to being caught.

But there are no crying out for help interviews. Jmo.

Agreed! No one in Bevers family is protesting, revolting, making pleas, etc. Unreal!


Plus. I doubt Midlothian police know anything as well. Jmo.

But bb isn't complaining about how upset that he is with no movement on the case. Jmo.

Agreed! No one in Bevers family is protesting, revolting, making pleas, etc. Unreal!
 
Well, maybe he was conducting his own "dalliance" if you will and during the time MB was having an affair with KC.

I strongly think BB was indicating to someone on his FB page on the day he was leaving for his fishing trip, what was happening. Bad weather...blah, blah, blah. And then, "Hope you made it" by WH at 7:00 p.m. when he had not yet arrived in MISS when he was supposed to. He later responds back to no one in particular that it had been a long flight but had made it. And that was that. [emoji6]

Why is no one speaking of WH and why she is on the SW? Could it possibly be she and BB were having a "relationship", too. If so, how did they communicate without being obvious?



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I totally agree.

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I just thought it was interesting that you can tell WH has feelings for BB. JMO

In regards to the other warrants that have been sealed.....I hope they cover the Ohio immigrants.....they have more question marks and ties to missys church life and lifestyle.

Ppl can come here to oregon and I can host a Websleuth reunion ;) lol
 
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They moved to Ohio
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Were these POI (s) on the sw?
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They were not on search warrant but he was interviewed by police several times.
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:waitasec: Do you have a link? Not being snarky just wondering how we know who has been interviewed by police, at all let alone several times. JMHO there potentially are many as the case progressed that may have been called in to ask more questions, which JMHO those questions could be about someone else. Lots of people were calling in tips... So merely speaking with MPD with out being on a SW means not much. to myself I mean. Sorry did not mean this to sound snarky. JMHO
 
I like to see, if this pattern also occurs in the remaining unpublished video and if any doors were propped open in the other parts of the church.

So, MPD, could you please publish that remaining part of the video?


MPD tells us the remaining video is of no significant value, or something to that effect. WHY? Why won't they let us judge for ourselves?
 
originally posted by ArkansasMimi: "The video is spliced to form the 2:27 min long version. The only reason we are seeing what released is in hopes someone would recognize the gait (what we were told from MPD)"

I believe most of us who have seen the brief video, DO recognize the gait. The gait is VERY similar to a certain family member.

Apparently, MPD decided to not rely on the public's gait identification help. Why not?
 
I just thought it was interesting that you can tell WH has feelings for BB. JMO

In regards to the other warrants that have been sealed.....I hope they cover the Ohio immigrants.....they have more question marks and ties to missys church life and lifestyle.

Ppl can come here to oregon and I can host a Websleuth reunion ;) lol

I am unsure who you are replying to in regards to BBM - we have no idea if there are more. In May when I first came to that thought it was for different reasons. I am unsure who the Ohio immigrants even are lol

I have been curious since KS was on camera stating that BB phones had been tapped how he knew that. < In the SW Statutes there is a whole section on wire tapping and pen . Also in the section speaking about Sealed SW... **Bolded below** Which has made me think for a long time that BB lawyered up. Nothing more than just reading the Statute and fact that he has not spoken publicly since May 24 iirc.

Art. 18.011. SEALING OF AFFIDAVIT. (a) An attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies may request a district judge or the judge of an appellate court to seal an affidavit presented under Article 18.01(b). The judge may order the affidavit sealed if the attorney establishes a compelling state interest in that:
(1) public disclosure of the affidavit would jeopardize the safety of a victim, witness, or confidential informant or cause the destruction of evidence; or
(2) the affidavit contains information obtained from a court-ordered wiretap that has not expired at the time the attorney representing the state requests the sealing of the affidavit.
(b) An order sealing an affidavit under this section expires on the 31st day after the date on which the search warrant for which the affidavit was presented is executed. After an original order sealing an affidavit is issued under this article, an attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies may request, and a judge may grant, before the 31st day after the date on which the search warrant for which the affidavit was presented is executed, on a new finding of compelling state interest, one 30-day extension of the original order.
(c) On the expiration of an order issued under Subsection (b) and any extension, the affidavit must be unsealed.
(d) An order issued under this section may not:
(1) prohibit the disclosure of information relating to the contents of a search warrant, the return of a search warrant, or the inventory of property taken pursuant to a search warrant; or
(2) affect the right of a defendant to discover the contents of an affidavit.


Added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 355 (S.B. 244), Sec. 2, eff. September 1, 2007.http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm
 
JMHO.. unsure if related in anyways to this case. but if you were to go to the Ellis County Texas Clerk page and look under Civil ... A filing on 11/22/16. This is the only other person beside BB listed in 2 Affidavits on different SW.
Never know if there were a messy divorce what may possibly come out. JMHO
Are you able to post it or is it a hassle or not within TOS? If yuh can much appreciated but if not, no worries. Thanks,
 
Well, maybe he was conducting his own "dalliance" if you will and during the time MB was having an affair with KC.

I strongly think BB was indicating to someone on his FB page on the day he was leaving for his fishing trip, what was happening. Bad weather...blah, blah, blah. And then, "Hope you made it" by WH at 7:00 p.m. when he had not yet arrived in MISS when he was supposed to. He later responds back to no one in particular that it had been a long flight but had made it. And that was that. [emoji6]

Why is no one speaking of WH and why she is on the SW? Could it possibly be she and BB were having a "relationship", too. If so, how did they communicate without being obvious?



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That I don't know. The part I put in quotes came straight from the warrant so the Affiant believed that BB had engaged in message transactions constituting evidence in the murder investigation and possibly other offenses via Facebook.

I think there are a number of people here who have and even continue to believe what you believe and have and do mention WH and BB/WH. So it isn't as if no one is speaking about it.

My own personal take on it is if MPD were told or discovered that BB had or was having a relationship with anyone they would have hung him out to dry publicly along with the other person just like they did with CW if they thought BB was involved in some way with Missy's murder in order to ramp pressure on him especially via his kids finding out, Missy's family, Missy's friends, etc. In cases like these spouses are the default suspect so it surprises me that if they had any such information that they didn't use it to their advantage.

As for how they would communicate without being obvious it would be almost impossible once someone is looking to find such communications. If you do some research you can find various techniques that cheaters use - up to highly sophisticated opsec including codes, voice-mail drop only phone numbers, skype (and similar) over the web via private browser from their phone, etc. - and all of those can be detected, even if the communication contents themselves cannot be recovered. The only reasonably safe opsec cheaters can use is to only communicate face to face and make sure that no one - not a single person (including waitresses/waitors/hotel clerks etc.) - ever see them together, which is pretty much impossible as well.
 
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