TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #41

[GA_Peach]

You answered your own questions...and mine too.....since it's MPDs job to protect their citizens and these families...they have to know who they think did this... Otherwise, they would have everyone on alert! Thanks!!!


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This is going to be my last post on this subject because I don't want to drag the whole forum down my own personal rabbit hole. I apologize in advance.

If MPD knows who did this and has solid evidence to achieve a conviction, I think that it is safe to assume that we would have an arrest and GJ indictment by now. In the absence of an arrest, we are left with two scenarios, I think:

1) MPD has a fairly solid case, but they are missing the linch-pin to pull everything together. If this is the case, I wonder why MPD is not seeking the public's help to find that linch-pin. Why are they not asking the public to help them locate that piece of evidence?

2) MPD has a weak case and are acting on nothing more than a hunch (perhaps based on circumstantial evidence). They are looking for evidence to support their theory (confirmation bias). When I read the various news outlets' reports that MPD is calling in other agencies to see if they missed any evidence, I get concerned that their evidence is not extremely solid.

I am praying that it is situation #1 and that we see an arrest soon. Missy and her family deserve justice!

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

#2. Possibly, hopefully..#1. But sorry, I think MPD is in the weeds.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Damage and thoughts JMHO

*Glass busted in room across from door came out w/#
*Suspect tried to pry open locked door West hallway across from Holy Ground

Metal Kitchen outer door handle & door window (glass busted inward)
If go back and review Media video will see 3 LEO by the open metal kitchen door. It appears that one of the LEO is next to the Kitchen window screen that is pushed and bent. But that is an illusion from the reporters zoom on camera. *curious as to where the reporter was
The sidewalk pad ends couple feet behind the open door. This is where the 3 are standing. The older uniformed officer standing behind door, can see jesturing with hands behind door (view through busted window) JMHO he looks like he is looking at area and maybe ground as he speaks. Plain clothed one JMHO is a CID Investigator.

Why was door open? Did Suspect leave it open? why does the floor not appear wet? **see below** The door window was busted from outside in, can see the glass that flew under the trash can with wheels. Lots of glass at the door threshold, some looks like it was messed up a little (walk through?) there is some glass on the right side of sidewalk to the open door too.
The over hange over the Metal door and the area where the golf cart sat reaches over a bit and jmho kept some of the water out. ** see photo of rainy day drive by Creekside Church of Christ.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Metal door window entrance to Kitchen (busted inward)
At first I thought the interior window wasn't busted but JMHO it was. How else was the Suspect going to get in? That door opens out (can see the door stop on wall, and can see from photos from CCoC fb of Kitchen) It looked like a glare on the window, but after looking ( a bunch) it now appears to have been busted and what I saw was the stainless steel shelves along the wall just prior to the door. So jmho should have been glass inside the kitchen.

Window in Kitchen, screen only attached at top corners
Was there rain inside? maybe not due to same overhang. Also there was no sidewalk under this window so it would be obvious to LEO if the Suspect went in or out. Rain soaked ground would have left some sort of indentions. Going in would have had to stand on something, going out a big drop, either way some sort of indentions in the soggy ground.
The top corners of the screen are still attached. The bottoms not. **can see a shadow on the ledge from bottom of screen. ** would probably also been some dust on the window seal inside disturbed (made me think of JB Ramsey) JMHO that window has a sink and the roll up window on that side of Room 8 goes to that room behind the stoves. One photo shows stainless steel shelves with pots on it. There is a trash can always near that roll up window. I would be surprised if wasn't like that. INot sure how big room is but it has a door *think of a hospital cafeteria where put dirty trays through a window or conveyor belt for washing*

 

[arkansasmimi]

NE double outer doors glass damage (small pieces still along wall)
*boot prints 3 jmho
Same thing here as with North side of building. The area where the 2 doors are, is very much covered. JMHO I thinking the black is what was maybe used by CSI to get a print. I see 1 good, 1 that all the weight of the shoe/boot didnt make a full print and maybe a heel. Notice they are only close to the steps. JMHO possible someone just walked up that far, threw something and busted those doors. If you zoom in you can see some small white specks, jmho glass along the wall and in the corner that didnt get picked up.

 

[MrsPC]

can anyone tell me where the handicap walk is located at the church in this photo (or is this the handicap walk.) ?



I ask because MB posted on her FB - CG pics on 8/31/15 at Creekside and they are in the parking lot by that ramp (or at least I think they are.) Anyway, I still think it was someone very familiar with the CG workouts at CC.

hope this isn't against the rules - here's the pic (with campers faces whited out) and you can see the ramp in the upper left.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Interesting article, this gentleman interviewed, Joe Clayton is a primary crime scene responder at the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI). He has 14 years of field experience and also is an expert in certain areas of forensic science. As Mr. Clayton explains, the approach to a crime scene involving 13 deaths in a high school (Mr. Clayton was one of the CSIs who processed Columbine High School after the shootings there) and the approach to a crime scene involving a person who was raped in a car are vastly different. Once the CSI has formed a plan of attack to gather all of the evidence that could be relevant to this particular crime, the next step is to fully document every aspect of the scene
in a way that makes it possible for people who weren't there to reconstruct it. This is the scene-documentation stage. ..

How Crime Scene Investigation Works

Who's at the Scene?
Police officers are typically the first to arrive at a crime scene. They arrest the perpetrator is he's still there and call for an
ambulance if necessary. They are responsible for securing the scene so no evidence is destroyed.

The CSI unit documents the crime scene in detail and collects any physical evidence.

The district attorney is often present to help determine if the investigators require any search warrants to proceed and obtain
those warrants from a judge.

The medical examiner (if a homicide) may or may not be present to determine a preliminary cause of death.

Specialists (entomologists, forensic scientists, forensic psychologists) may be called in if the evidence requires expert analysis.

Detectives interview witnesses and consult with the CSI unit. They investigate the crime by following leads provided by witnesses

The investigation of a crime scene begins when the CSI unit receives a call from the police officers or detectives on the scene. The
overall system works something like this:
 The CSI arrives on the scene and makes sure it is secure. She does an initial walk-through to get an overall feel for the crime
scene, finds out if anyone moved anything before she arrived, and generates initial theories based on visual examination.
She makes note of potential evidence. At this point, she touches nothing.

 The CSI thoroughly documents the scene by taking photographs and drawing sketches during a second walk-through.
Sometimes, the documentation stage includes a video walk-through, as well. She documents the scene as a whole and
documents anything she has identified as evidence. She still touches nothing.
and physical evidence.

 Now it's time to touch stuff -- very, very carefully. The CSI systematically makes her way through the scene collecting all
potential evidence, tagging it, logging it and packaging it so it remains intact on its way to the lab. Depending on the task
breakdown of the CSI unit she works for and her areas of expertise, she may or may not analyze the evidence in the lab.
 The crime lab processes all of the evidence the CSI collected at the crime scene. When the lab results are in, they go to the
lead detective on the case.

During this time, the CSI talks to the first responders to see if they touched anything and gather any additional information that
might be helpful in determining a plan of attack. If detectives on the scene have begun witness interviews, they may offer details
that point the CSI to a particular room of the house or type of evidence

Most CSIs, including Mr. Clayton, do not talk to witnesses. Mr. Clayton is a crime scene investigator and a forensic scientist -
- he has no training in proper interview techniques. Mr. Clayton deals with the physical evidence alone and turns to the detectives
on the scene for any useful witness accounts. http://www.acschools.org/cms/lib07/...w Crime Scene Investigation Works Article.pdf

 

[Jethro4WS]

can anyone tell me where the handicap walk is located at the church in this photo (or is this the handicap walk.) ?

I ask because MB posted on her FB - CG pics on 8/31/15 at Creekside and they are in the parking lot by that ramp (or at least I think they are.) Anyway, I still think it was someone very familiar with the CG workouts at CC.

hope this isn't against the rules - here's the pic (with campers faces whited out) and you can see the ramp in the upper left.

No handicap access in that photo. That photo shows the entrance at the Northeast corner of the building. There is a flight of stairs that goes up to it. Maybe 20 steps in all. What you see in the photo you posted with the people outside is the South side of the building and that ramp is just the slope of the parking lot and maybe adjoining sidewalk that goes uphill there just beyond the view of this picture if you could see further toward the upper left would be the entrance to the car port area from this side .

 

[arkansasmimi]

thinking: After reading a bunch of different articles, JMHO, the "crime scene" for MB murder was the area where her body was located. Unless there was evidence she went to any of the other rooms the Suspect went into or broke windows. The other areas of the building was different JMHO Thinking out loud here...The only area marked off with crime scene tape was the area by her truck and the West /front entrance. Also there were 2 ECSO Suburbans, at entrance, 5 ECSO/MPD vehicles in parking lot, 1 CST Van, 1 Patrol car by Metal door entrance, 1 Surbuban at NE corner of parking lot. 9 LEO Veh (+2 veh at entrance unsure who they were - not included in totals).

**I also noticed they scratched out "Capital" in the scribbled template form SWs they used :thinking: Maybe because they didn't know at the time what may have been dealing with? So just murder?

Captain John Spann: <snip for space>
Our initial response was to an unresponsive female at the church, like Chief said. Once the officers got there, their preliminary search ––they did determine that there was forced entry into the building, broken glass throughout the building, and from that, determined that it was possibly a burglary that she may have walked in and interrupted
***
Captain John Spann: <snip for space> We got assistance from the Ellis County Sheriff's Department that has a property evidence collection team that came out to assist us in collecting evidence, and we've reached out to, again, some local agencies, some investigators, that would come in and give us assistance to make sure we're making ––we're taking every effort to track down any possible leads on this. Again, like Chief said, this is unusual for the city of Midlothian. This isn't something we deal with on a daily basis, so it's something that we're going to make sure it's done and it's done right. https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ykkazqapxcvrm/MB 4-18-16.protected.pdf?dl=0

 

[arkansasmimi]

thinking: After reading a bunch of different articles, JMHO, the "crime scene" for MB murder was the area where her body was located. Unless there was evidence she went to any of the other rooms the Suspect went into or broke windows. The other areas of the building was different JMHO Thinking out loud here...The only area marked off with crime scene tape was the area by her truck and the West /front entrance. Also there were 2 ECSO Suburbans, at entrance, 5 ECSO/MPD vehicles in parking lot, 1 CST Van, 1 Patrol car by Metal door entrance, 1 Surbuban at NE corner of parking lot. 9 LEO Veh (+2 veh at entrance unsure who they were - not included in totals).

**I also noticed they scratched out "Capital" in the scribbled template form SWs they used :thinking: Maybe because they didn't know at the time what may have been dealing with? So just murder?

Captain John Spann: <snip for space>
Our initial response was to an unresponsive female at the church, like Chief said. Once the officers got there, their preliminary search &#8211;&#8211;they did determine that there was forced entry into the building, broken glass throughout the building, and from that, determined that it was possibly a burglary that she may have walked in and interrupted
***
Captain John Spann: <snip for space> We got assistance from the Ellis County Sheriff's Department that has a property evidence collection team that came out to assist us in collecting evidence, and we've reached out to, again, some local agencies, some investigators, that would come in and give us assistance to make sure we're making &#8211;&#8211;we're taking every effort to track down any possible leads on this. Again, like Chief said, this is unusual for the city of Midlothian. This isn't something we deal with on a daily basis, so it's something that we're going to make sure it's done and it's done right. https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ykkazqapxcvrm/MB 4-18-16.protected.pdf?dl=0

Can't find much about ECSO Crime Scene Unit here's a few

Article I found: RE ECSO Waxahachie, Texas &#8211; Nov. 8, 2012 (CID Rick White retirement)
He&#8217;s also proud of the ECSO&#8217;s development of its own Crime Scene Unit to collect and preserve evidence and offer testimony at trial. The unit&#8217;s level of expertise allows it to provide latent print examination for all law enforcement in Ellis County. It also is able to provide support to agencies in other counties as requested.
ECSO has had a 100-percent clearance rate on homicide since the development of that unit, with a conviction secured on every case that went to trial.
&#8220;We&#8217;re proud of it,&#8221; White said, crediting also the additional interview techniques training given to ECSO investigators. http://elliscountysheriff.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&limitstart=130
*************************
In looking up ECSO property evidence collection unit, I am assuming they used the Crime Scene Technician C.K. I can't find anything current about their CST, or statistics, but I found prior CST for Ellis County and the duties listed were:
Crime Scene Technician
Company Name Ellis County Sheriff's Office
Dates Employed Aug 2012 &#8211; Nov 2015 Employment Duration3 yrs 4 mos Location Waxahachie, Texas
I served as the sole Crime Scene Technician within Ellis County, Texas. I was responsible for 24/7 crime scene response in the unincorporated areas of Ellis County. I also provided crime scene and latent print assistance to local, State and Federal entities as requested. I testified as an expert witness in District Court and received multiple commendations for my role in a number of investigations. My duties included, but were not limited to:

&#8226; Crime scene processing and evidence collection
&#8226; Latent fingerprint development and examination
&#8226; Utilizing AFIX Tracker and Universal Latent Workstation for latent print searches
&#8226; Facilitating evidence submission to external laboratories as needed
&#8226; Property room management and disposition of evidence
&#8226; Crime Scene and Property Room supply inventory
&#8226; Testifying as an expert witness
&#8226; PADI certified open water diver for the ECSO Underwater Search & Recovery Team https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-gildner-31430b54/

 

[arkansasmimi]

can anyone tell me where the handicap walk is located at the church in this photo (or is this the handicap walk.) ?

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I ask because MB posted on her FB - CG pics on 8/31/15 at Creekside and they are in the parking lot by that ramp (or at least I think they are.) Anyway, I still think it was someone very familiar with the CG workouts at CC.

hope this isn't against the rules - here's the pic (with campers faces whited out) and you can see the ramp in the upper left.

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From MB Facebooks (personal and the CG Midlothian one) you can see photos of her classes working out in the parking area where those Campers are sitting and further out.You can see them pulling fire hoses and so forth. IIRC they just took like group photos up around the building, jmho more lighting? Many photos on her fb.
Here are those steps I posted of the rear doors boarded up NE corner.
:thinking: HMMM maybe if Suspect went up those steps, threw something and then hauled butt down those wet steps, may be that is why was walking odd. One can only hope! ETA, maybe they should check local Urgent Care or ER's to see if anyone came in around that time frame ?

 

[arkansasmimi]

I believe that MB's murder was targeted, and I think that the too perfectly executed plan points to that. However, unless MPD knows the motive, how do they know that the rest of her family is safe? her campers? any person having a flirtatious relationship with MB at the time of her death? those people's spouses? How about any other people who may have been involved in a nefarious ring that MB uncovered?

Without an arrest and enough evidence to secure a conviction, how was does MPD really know if everyone is safe? This has bugged me for months, and maybe some posters can help me put this issue to rest... for my own sanity.

I really do think that MPD's silence has been just as telling as what they have said, but this particular bit bugs me.

ETA - And if SP is a vandal (I would be shocked, but we could all salute Cannonball), how does MPD know that this vandal won't strike again? How do they know this vandal won't come into contact with another unsuspecting person as (s)he roams another building?

Regardless if he/she was a vandal going in, he/she came out a murderer. Regardless if he/she was going in to burglarize the church or whatever... Still left out a Murderer of MB. So JMHO it matters in Motive, but ultimately it still ended up Murder.

 

[arkansasmimi]

This is going to be my last post on this subject because I don't want to drag the whole forum down my own personal rabbit hole. I apologize in advance.

If MPD knows who did this and has solid evidence to achieve a conviction, I think that it is safe to assume that we would have an arrest and GJ indictment by now. In the absence of an arrest, we are left with two scenarios, I think:

1) MPD has a fairly solid case, but they are missing the linch-pin to pull everything together. If this is the case, I wonder why MPD is not seeking the public's help to find that linch-pin. Why are they not asking the public to help them locate that piece of evidence?

2) MPD has a weak case and are acting on nothing more than a hunch (perhaps based on circumstantial evidence). They are looking for evidence to support their theory (confirmation bias). When I read the various news outlets' reports that MPD is calling in other agencies to see if they missed any evidence, I get concerned that their evidence is not extremely solid.

I am praying that it is situation #1 and that we see an arrest soon. Missy and her family deserve justice!

JMHO I think the answer to #1 may be what has happened online as with Dallas Observer article. JMHO I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were asked to do the article. Off the record of course. Reporter may have made some "donut" points with MPD if did on his own.

It is strange though, nothing publicly then that one article from Waxahachie paper stating they have cleared someone that wasn't publicly ever called a POI. (but they cleared in June, when all the people were calling in "tips")

Remember when they announced they were taking the weekend off becaue they had been working around the clock for days? After hearing the Press Conf ... then reading that Dallas Observer article.. puts things in perspective a little, on one hand why not speaking out . Just never seen this before.

 

[arkansasmimi]

There is that discrepancy with times that bugs me a tiny bit. Not really an issue, it the only question that MPD didn't answere and I am ok with that. Protect the integrity of the case.

JMHO I know they say the times on the video are approximate. So did they orig get the time mixed up with the date? Capt Spann said he thinks MB entered about 4:18. and that:

Captain John Spann: Like he said, she's part of a Camp Gladiator boot camp that meets there. The camp normally starts at 5:00 A.M. She arrived approximately a little after 4:00 A.M. and was in the process &#8211;&#8211;her vehicle was parked by the entry door, unloading her equipment. She was actually found by one of the boot camp participants who got there a little bit early, waited outside for a while, and then, once some of the other people arrived, they entered the building to go start their boot camp, and that's when they located her, and at that time, just as soon as she was unresponsive&#8211;&#8211;until they saw her injuries and called


Female Reporter:Is Ms. Bevers in the video as well?
Captain John Spann:The video that we're going to release to you is of the suspect. There's no video of the assault that took place. There is video of Mrs. Bevers when she first enters the church, but I don't believe that's part of the video that's being released for right now

Captain John Spannretty quick after she got there. Again, the timeline from the boot camp members that were arriving there &#8211;&#8211;again, we know the time that she entered the church, which I believe is going to be around 4:18 [A.M.], again, approximate time. We see her in the video. She's walking down the main hallway in the vicinity of where we located her, but when she gets out of the range of the camera it doesn't pick up the motion, and the camera turns off, so we don't have anything. Like I said, we have no video ofthe assault actuallytaking place

**Corporal Cody Moon (Primary Inv at time) 4/19 used the 4:18 time for MB entering bld.

Friday April 22, the MPD updated the timeline. They had by then more time to go over the video and also had the SWFA video too.
JMHO I think MB did take some equipment in and possible came in first at 4:18. went out, and came back in at 4:20 when she was walking down main hallway....
Video surveillance times are approximate.
Updated Timeline:
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 3:50 A.M. &#8211; Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:16 A.M. &#8211; Mrs. Bevers&#8217; pickup truck is shown on video surveillance driving into the church parking lot.
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:20 A.M. &#8211; Mrs. Bevers appears on video surveillance camera walking into the church building.
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:35 A.M. &#8211; Participant in Camp Gladiator arrives at location
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:00 A.M. &#8211; Two 911 calls received from location
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:01 A.M. &#8211; Fire Department dispatched
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:03 A.M. &#8211; Initial Patrol Officers dispatched
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:07 A.M. &#8211; Fire Department arrives at the location
&#8226; Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:10 A.M. &#8211; Officers arrive at the location https://www.facebook.com/1950470073...95047007358/10154082916172359/?type=3&theater

In this new report, (start at 1:56 mark) the LEO takes something and places it in the back seat of MB truck. Can see his feet under the truck and he reaches inside. JMHO if it wasn't with MB immediate area whatever she took in may not be considered part of crime scene. Also this is most likely, JMHO around Noon when the scene was being released. You see MB truck is on the tow truck, LEO is taking down the crime scene tape (to be able to get MB truck but they are also loading up the CSI van. **don't know who the Investigator is in white shirt and jeans but he is staying outside the crime scene tape. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Wo...thian-Church_Dallas-Fort-Worth-376136631.html

The helicopter raw video shows that MB doors are closed. And the white van is a good deal away from MB truck

 

[arkansasmimi]

Establish the extent of the scene. Ask yourself where the victim and suspect met, where the victim was killed, where the victim was found, and how the victim got to the scene. Establish what happened before the crime, during the crime, and after the crime.

Make sure that, if two witnesses have to ride in the same vehicle, the transporting officer does not allow them to discuss what they observed http://www.policeforum.org/assets/d...gation standard operating procedures 1999.pdf

JMHO I would think if any of the Campers tried CPR they would have blood on their body or clothing. So JMHO they would take the Witnesses clothing and a DNA sample if nothing else for elimination. EMT and LEO probably already on file. ?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Friday
Posted Apr 22, 2016 at 6:03 PM
Updated Apr 25, 2016 at 3:40 PM
"We have executed several search warrants over the last few days," Midlothian's Assistant Police Chief Kevin Johnson said, adding the investigators continue to move through an investigative checklist as they examine every possible lead. "We are casting a wide net, everywhere where we think we might get a lead."
Investigators have a list of names tips have brought to their attention, he said.
"We are working through a list of suspicion and right now, we have not ruled anyone out," Johnson said. "We found tools around the crime scene and are currently analyzing them." http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20160422/police-release-3rd-piece-of-surveillence-in-bevers-murder

iPhone & iPad SW

 

[MilNeumMom]

Check out this case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sherri_Rasmussen

Do you think there are significant parallels to MB's case?

 

[GA_Peach]

JMHO I think the answer to #1 may be what has happened online as with Dallas Observer article. JMHO I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were asked to do the article. Off the record of course. Reporter may have made some "donut" points with MPD if did on his own.

It is strange though, nothing publicly then that one article from Waxahachie paper stating they have cleared someone that wasn't publicly ever called a POI. (but they cleared in June, when all the people were calling in "tips")

Remember when they announced they were taking the weekend off becaue they had been working around the clock for days? After hearing the Press Conf ... then reading that Dallas Observer article.. puts things in perspective a little, on one hand why not speaking out . Just never seen this before.

I have always found the Dallas Observer article a bit strange, but I just went back and reread it. I think that you might be right. It's interesting reading it through a different lens.

http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/...-in-missy-bevers-murder-investigation-9129736

For Johnson the danger is that the rampant speculation is hurting innocent people and hampering his search for real clues. &#8220;Overall has social media hurt or helped this investigation?&#8221; Johnson says. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how to answer that. Has the information been a distraction? Yes. Do we want to dig into every piece of information? Yes, and we will continue to. There have been a lot of comparisons &#8212; at least internally &#8212; between this case and the murder of the Kaufman County District Attorney in how that stuff came in about the killer. It was innocuous. It didn&#8217;t seem to connect at the time, and then the name re-emerged. When they dug into it, it led into another really small detail that really cracked the thing open.

&#8220;So I think that&#8217;s been our concern from the beginning,&#8221; he adds. &#8220;In those 1,300 to 1,400 tips, is there some innocuous tip that has some aspect that we missed? Unfortunately it&#8217;s impossible to know until you know."

I just did a cursory reading of the Kaufman County DA case. That was a revenge killing, and the killer did strike again (second time killing was the same motive as the first time - different victims). I am going to do some more research this afternoon.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...h-row-a-year-ago-today-for-kaufman-da-murders

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Check out this case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sherri_Rasmussen

Do you think there are significant parallels to MB's case?

I recently heard a podcast about this incident. Stephanie Lazarus was a woman scorned, and apparently must have thought the death of his wife would bring Mark Rasmussen back to her. I don't really see any parallels. What do you think is similar?

 

[windrower]

I believe what I believe. I suspect that Missy was shot in the head with very significant damage to the brain stem and death was instantaneous. Otherwise if this was purely a bludgeoning then SP would have significant amounts of blood on them that they would trail, drip, and get on anything and everything along their path out of the church and there would not be a presumption on MPD's part about which way SP went after the murder - it would be definitive.

Do we know for sure that the SP suit was not removed at the murder location? SP takes off outerwear where she stands, and, dressed in all black, tighter fitting clothes (that would limit evidence left in suit), high tails it out of the building. I think there are several ways out that would limit detection, esp with motion-activated cameras.I do believe she could have left on foot, several ways to do that, also. This is a highly motivated individual, and adrenaline would help keep her moving. I don't think she used a four-wheeler or motorcycle anywhere close to the church building, but made her way on foot to a place quite a distance away. If I remember correctly, daybreak was over an hour away.Yes, I think a she, but she isn't on any search warrant, to my knowledge. Very close to Missy. With a personal vendetta. No proof, jmo.(I also think there may be a fire department connection, but I've got no proof for that, either. I need to do more research and RL has made that impossible for the time being.)As always, jmo. JMO!I also believe LE is hard at work, and that we will see justice for Missy, though it may not come as soon as we might like. Some of the evidence just takes a long while to process, and then linkage to someone may be longer yet.But it certainly is hard to be patient.