TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #41

[Oregonmama]

Hey that's cheating young lady illowfight: then you could do some conformation bias theorizing Make it fit lol
LOL I will spill mine other than POI because I haven't a clue but sleuthed a bunch lol GJ is in session so hoping soon

After NIN posted those pics I came to my own conclusion of a theory that was discussed in the first few threads that I thought was a little bit far stretched but I realized it can be a possibility.

 

[Scout]

Reference to when the ATF K9 was brought in on Wed, prior to the CCoC prayer service. We have NOT seen a SW for CCoC from MPD (could be a SW by TX Rangers or another agency but we have not seen one released. IF they did a search for possible evidence and no SW, that would be something that a Def Attorney would file Motion to get excluded as the scene already had been released and also cleaned. JMHO Crime Scene was released at approx noon per Capt Spann 4/18/16.

Per same document Wise County Tx Constable
Crime Scene Search and Processing http://www.co.wise.tx.us/constable/Downloads/Crime Scene Search and Processing.pdf

pg 4/9
Finishing the crime scene processing:
Final Survey:
*The final survey is a review of all aspects of the search.
*Discuss the search with all personnel.
*Ensure all documentation is correct and complete.
*Photograph the scene showing the final condition.
*Ensure all evidence is secured.
*Ensure all equipment is retrieved.
*Ensure hiding places or difficult access areas have not been overlooked.

Release
*Release the crime scene after the final survey.
*Crime scene release documentation should include the time and date of release, to
*whom released, and by whom released.
*Ensure that the evidence is collected according to legal requirements, documented, and marked for identification.
*Consider the need for specialists such as a blood-pattern analyst or a medical examiner to observe the scene before it is released.
*Once the scene has been released, reentry may require a warrant.
*The scene should be released only when all personnel are satisfied that the scene was searched correctly and completely.
*Only the person in charge should release the scene.

No search warrant is required to search areas that are open to public access because there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. This exception would most likely apply to the corridors, classrooms, sanctuary, kitchen, and bathrooms in the church building. Consent is also a valid exception to the warrant requirement.

Regardless, we don't know if the K9 was used inside the building. There is absolutely no requirement for a warrant to search the grounds surrounding the building.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Highly skilled or lucky.

The scene could have been staged after her death. It depends on whether the glass found around her body was also found under her body. It also depends on whether there were any defensive injuries or injuries elsewhere on her body such as bruises that suggest a true struggle.

For what it is worth I believe the puncture wounds were caused by the pry bar driven by the hammer - after Missy was dead - since I believe she was shot first.

I believe the fatal injury occurred with Missy standing and it would be to the head, very likely trauma to the brain stem causing instant death. I could very well be wrong.

:waitasec: you think she was shot in the brain stem? Then punctured with the pry bar and hammer? hwow:

 

[ocgrad]

I'm too lazy to go back and look but IIRC, the language concerning the firearm was boilerplate language. You could literally Google the phrases and find other unrelated cases where it was repeated verbatim.

So I wouldn't read too much into it appearing singular.


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I can see its standard language, but does it apply to a LE issued gun? Or is it only used in specific situations for privately owned guns? I just have a difficult time understanding how a gun serial number on a known registered weapon could be misused, especially a LE agency's gun.

 

[moslym3]

I can see its standard language, but does it apply to a LE issued gun? Or is it only used in specific situations for privately owned guns? I just have a difficult time understanding how a gun serial number on a known registered weapon could be misused, especially a LE agency's gun.

My theory on the serial number for a firearm is that there was a firearm unrelated to the murder at the scene that LE found during their investigation. I think the church lady or pastor may have had a weapon stashed in the office or something. Or maybe one of the campers had a firearm in their vehicle that they indicated to authorities when they came on scene.

This is the west - many many many firearm owners.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Work in progress

I THINK THEY ( PLURAL!) MADE A BIG MISTAKE!! WE HAVE 2 SWATPERPS INSIDE THE CHURCH, NOT JUST 1 !!!

Check out the MPD video again and look at the SP walking down the West hallway. Look at the very first frames all until the individual enters the room next to the bulletin board. The individual completely disappears and comes back out.

Now, slow it down or watch frame by frame, look at the POLICE logo on the right front side of the jacket and watch the patch - or whatever it is. It is way further to the left or towards the middle of the *first* person:

PRIOR TO ENTERING THE ROOM:

AFTER EXITING THE ROOM:

Upon exiting the room you will see all angles of the logo and patch, including the angle you see, when SP enters first.

That could explain variations of pants, socks, boots, shoes etc . and height/size..IMO

THIS WAS PLANNED AND EXECUTED ACCORDING TO PLAN. I do not know, how the first SP got inside that room, unless the individual we see has cruised around the church twice? We need to see the remaining footage of the video.

I am stunned.

-Nin

Thank you!! And now please a comparison of the helmet which is shining always different ....

 

[Elley Mae]

What If the swat outfit was for the camera's and not for Missy? It is obvious that the suspect knew there were camera's.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I can see its standard language, but does it apply to a LE issued gun? Or is it only used in specific situations for privately owned guns? I just have a difficult time understanding how a gun serial number on a known registered weapon could be misused, especially a LE agency's gun.

Well the potential for misuse really isn't their reason for making the argument. The intent is to create an exception to the Open Records Act so that they can withhold the document from public view.


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[No it's not]

NIN I respect your hard work. Just a thought. the 2 are not the same as in feet on floor. One where you have curved over back, the leg is bent, which would change the body structure with that heavy garb on would it not? That would change the logo and all correct? IIRC from our convos prior, isn't this where there is the splice (where the pry tool suddenly appears?) So far, I just see 1 Suspect... but I am staying openminded lol wind blowing through right now :silly: I have been convinced on some things

Right back at you, arkansasmimi. As I said before- you are a walking encyclopedia. ;--)

Check the frames, if you can, or watch the video in a slow speed at 0.29. The perp is walking towards the door with his left leg basically stepping around with a long stride almost pivoting on his right foot. This capture (both layers) were taken right during the "apex" of the movement. Head is staying in the same height. There is actually a moment you can see the back and the front at the same time.

-Nin

In general, I am not posting these pics to over-complicate the case or to force any discussions. I am solely going by what is seen on the video. I would not be surprised, if it is a very complex case. MPD said, they did not understand the movements of the perp in the church. It would be very helpful to see all of the footage available. I am sounding like a broken record.

 

[arkansasmimi]

No search warrant is required to search areas that are open to public access because there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. This exception would most likely apply to the corridors, classrooms, sanctuary, kitchen, and bathrooms in the church building. Consent is also a valid exception to the warrant requirement.

Regardless, we don't know if the K9 was used inside the building. There is absolutely no requirement for a warrant to search the grounds surrounding the building.

Thanks Scout!
RBBM, now on this part, we (public) do not know what the K9 went inside the building for on such a beautiful day. It wasn't to go to the restroom, I feel sure of that.

On another note, I did some research yesterday and not finding exactly what looking for. May have to go back through some video of Maddox Kilgore & Company to find my new start... On MB cellphone, it was unprotected password wise and was not listed on the SW as being in her truck. Unless it was in her purse in the truck, JMHO I think she had it with her. Could LEO look in it without a SW prior? Extraction wasn't executed until Wed iirc although SW was signed late Tues afternoon. Thanks

 

[arkansasmimi]

MOD :tantrum: help please and thank you :shame: I can't remember how to make the "reply with multiple quotes" :stop: That is why I rarely use, instead copy and paste lol Posting here in case others have same issue. I have to delete the quoted other post now when I reply with a quote. :cupcake:

 

[Oregonmama]

Thanks Scout!
RBBM, now on this part, we (public) do not know what the K9 went inside the building for on such a beautiful day. It wasn't to go to the restroom, I feel sure of that.

On another note, I did some research yesterday and not finding exactly what looking for. May have to go back through some video of Maddox Kilgore & Company to find my new start... On MB cellphone, it was unprotected password wise and was not listed on the SW as being in her truck. Unless it was in her purse in the truck, JMHO I think she had it with her. Could LEO look in it without a SW prior? Extraction wasn't executed until Wed iirc although SW was signed late Tues afternoon. Thanks
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You are an encyclopedia, smarty pants! :bow:

 

[arkansasmimi]

My theory on the serial number for a firearm is that there was a firearm unrelated to the murder at the scene that LE found during their investigation. I think the church lady or pastor may have had a weapon stashed in the office or something. Or maybe one of the campers had a firearm in their vehicle that they indicated to authorities when they came on scene.

This is the west - many many many firearm owners.

:thinking: JMHO firearm just on the property or in someones vehicle would not be noted in reports unless the firearm was taken for evidence. JMHO if a gun say was in a desk in office, unless it was stolen or messed with no reason to list it in any reports. JMHO again only only thing in reports should be relevant to that morning. Also the MPD press release stated that EMS were already working on MB when officers arrived.

Snip:
MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS: (Updated 4:00pm) Today, Monday April 18, 2016 at approximately 5:00 AM, Midlothian Police Officers were dispatched along with EMS to the Creekside Church of Christ located at 5400 block of E US Hwy 287 in Midlothian in regards to an unresponsive female found in the building. Midlothian officers arrived at the location just after the Midlothian Fire Department medics arrived on scene and the medics were attending the unresponsive female as officers entered the church. The officers observed lots of broken glass on the floor around the female and they started a search of the building to make sure there were no other individuals in the building. During the search officers, found evidence of forced entry into the building indicating a possible burglary. The entire building was searched and nobody found. https://www.facebook.com/1950470073...95047007358/10154073544117359/?type=3&theater

Per document Wise County Tx Constable Crime Scene Search and Processing, what the MPD Press Release speaks off clearly sounds like the "High Risk" response to me, at least at some point. http://www.co.wise.tx.us/constable/Downloads/Crime Scene Search and Processing.pdf

Responding to a crime scene: initial search
Hot Search
“High Risk” response, weapons drawn, quick building searches
Assumes that perpetrator is still in vicinity of crime scene
Thorough search of crime scene and surrounding area
Done immediately after crime scene is discovered

Cold Search
No chance suspect is still on scene or in the area
Done hours or days after crime scene has been discovered
Covers surrounding neighborhood
Residents, etc, canvassed for potential witnesses

 

[GA_Peach]

MOD :tantrum: help please and thank you :shame: I can't remember how to make the "reply with multiple quotes" :stop: That is why I rarely use, instead copy and paste lol Posting here in case others have same issue. I have to delete the quoted other post now when I reply with a quote. :cupcake:

Hit the quote button with the plus sign for each post you want to quote (located on the far right of each post). After all posts have been selected, hit the "Reply to Thread" button at the bottom left of the thread (after the last post in the thread ). I hope this makes sense.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Right back at you, arkansasmimi. As I said before- you are a walking encyclopedia. ;--)

Check the frames, if you can, or watch the video in a slow speed at 0.29. The perp is walking towards the door with his left leg basically stepping around with a long stride almost pivoting on his right foot. This capture (both layers) were taken right during the "apex" of the movement. Head is staying in the same height. There is actually a moment you can see the back and the front at the same time.

-Nin

In general, I am not posting these pics to over-complicate the case or to force any discussions. I am solely going by what is seen on the video. I would not be surprised, if it is a very complex case. MPD said, they did not understand the movements of the perp in the church. It would be very helpful to see all of the footage available. I am sounding like a broken record.

LOL your silly! I just write stuff down and makes me remember, and keep a doc with links and notes and timeline to help lol so it at fingertips. Google helps too. PLUS it 2 days shy of 10 months and this stuff for most part has been rehashed to almost mush. BUT when I personally revisit, especially after something in a post a lot of times I see something I didn't think about prior or a new version. Gotta roll with it. Thanks again for your expertise.

 

[tlcya]

stills from the video are welcome but members need to explain what processes have been used if they have been enhanced, how so.

In others words has it been blown it up, dialed down or up the contrast, altered to black and white, saturation dialed down or up etc etc etc.

If you have stills you wish to post and discuss please provide a description of how they have been enhanced and a link to source for each.

Thank you,

tlcya

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I see a flurry of posts and start reading them backwards. Confused, I then read them forwards and am still none the wiser. What are all these photos you speak of, are people starting to lose their minds?!?!

Perhaps I have missed something that has been edited/deleted?

 

[Oregonmama]

I see a flurry of posts and start reading them backwards. Confused, I then read them forwards and am still none the wiser. What are all these photos you speak of, are people starting to lose their minds?!?!

Perhaps I have missed something that has been edited/deleted?

glad your back on the thread! :happydance:

 

[tlcya]

taking a break for a few folks - please pardon the interuption

 

[tlcya]

Thread is now open for posting