TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #20

[liltexans]

It will be hard for me to exist here since I'm FIRMLY rooted that Brandon did not kill Missy or ask anyone to kill Missy, but I'll give it a try if my local perspective can answer a question for someone (without it being speculative or betraying my friends' confidences).

I don't know how to go about verifying I am who I say I am, but if a moderator wants to reach out to me, I'm glad to go through the process.

Welcome! There are a few of us who have never suspected BB or anyone in the family so you won't be alone. I would appreciate your insight into the case.

 

[No it's not]

I've posted as well that it can be easily assumed that the building would be opened up for restroom use. Does anyone know if MB would bring in a cooler with water or anything that would have her with both hands in use so that she would unable to fend off a strike with the hammer as she entered ?

There is a certain routine for CG instructors as posted previously by a CG trainee/ participant. Among else they would transport any equipment needed for the workout in their vehicles including a tall self standing flag and a table station with applications and info for new campers. -Nin

 

[TeaTime]

With regards to the Nissan development of this case.

LE saw a Nissan, but they don't have the license plate number and the owner isn't a suspect or person of interest.

Perhaps someone can explain to me how this is useful or isn't a complete distraction from the rest of the information they already have.

Many of us believe that LE has the plate number and has had it for a long time. It is not a distraction, they are squeezing SP.

 

[lily1020]

Since she had her car parked under the cover to unload, because of the rain and walked around to the front door in the rain to unlock it, chances are she was empty handed. She may have been turning on lights as she walked in, but my best guess is PERP waited in the dark and jumped her or hit her in the head from behind. This is creepy because whoever it is, had to have known that her entrance was to the front and she would walk to her car parked under cover. PERP almost had to have watched her from a previous rain or known her exact moves.

 

[Baby beach]

This is Missy's thread for justice for her, not for BB jmo.

 

[North coast]

It will be hard for me to exist here since I'm FIRMLY rooted that Brandon did not kill Missy or ask anyone to kill Missy, but I'll give it a try if my local perspective can answer a question for someone (without it being speculative or betraying my friends' confidences).

I don't know how to go about verifying I am who I say I am, but if a moderator wants to reach out to me, I'm glad to go through the process.

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[North coast]

Since she had her car parked under the cover to unload, because of the rain and walked around to the front door in the rain to unlock it, chances are she was empty handed. She may have been turning on lights as she walked in, but my best guess is PERP waited in the dark and jumped her or hit her in the head from behind. This is creepy because whoever it is, had to have known that her entrance was to the front and she would walk to her car parked under cover. PERP almost had to have watched her from a previous rain or known her exact moves.

THis is one of the main reasons why I think this has to be a former or current camper, JMO.

 

[SandyQLS]

Here ya go:

Working with your own image, lines and measurements, I arrive at a suspect height of 5'5" to 5'8".

I think that the distortion is the vertical millimeter bar - it must be parallel to and angled the same as the 'vertical' angled green suspect line and also the 'vertical' angled red center 84" door line to come out correctly? because this is a one point perspective prism?

I put the photo fullscreen on my computer and measured your lines with a ruler in inches. The suspect is presumed to be standing at the center of the door and close to it.

FIRST estimate: The 'vertical' angled green suspect line = 3.25 my ruler inches, and the 'vertical' angled red center door line = 4.0 my ruler inches. If the red center line is actually 84", then the math is: 4/3.25 = 84/X, solve for X with 4X=84*3.25, then X = 273/4 = 68.25 actual suspect inches. Allowing 1" for boot heel and 2" for helmet top, 68.25" minus 3" = 65.25" or about 5'5" suspect.

SECOND estimate (same process, trying to measure more accurately with my ruler against CRT screen with image larger): The 'vertical' angled green suspect line = 4.75 my ruler inches, and the 'vertical' angled red center door line = 5.625 my ruler inches. If the red center line is actually 84", then the math is: 5.625/4.75 = 84/X, solve for X with 5.625X=84*4.75, then X = 399/5.625 = 70.9 actual suspect inches. Allowing 1" for boot heel and 2" for helmet top, rounding 70.9 up to 71 inches, minus 3" = 68" or about 5'8" suspect.

What would happen if your MM bar were placed between the suspect and the door, and also angled to be parallel with the 'vertical' angled green suspect line and the 'vertical' angled red center door line? (eg, the 'vertical' angled green suspect line is longer than the MM vertical line as shown, distorting suspect height to taller. ???

Adding: My math was trying to compare the red center door line to the green suspect line, since as you pointed out for us, the fish eye lens is very distorting making objects in the center (MM bar) different than (slanted) objects to either side (suspect and door) ??? I don't know if this makes any sense!!! LOL The MM bar would have to stick out at the top from the screen toward the viewer to be in the same plane as the suspect and the door.

 

[North coast]

Lol. I do ramble some times. But the question sounds fairly simple. Just saying.

Okay. I will elaborate. The police made a statement after the murder about a car being spotted on camera in the far corner of the church scene.

Now they are asking about a Altima that was in another lot and caught directly on camera.

So are they saying that the Nissan was the same car spotted in the far corner at the murder scene?

They didn't say that but that is the conclusion some of us have drawn. THey really want to talk to this person. I took their "last solid lead" to mean..this is your last chance, we know who you are.

 

[knowthings]

I think this case is wrapped up, just waiting for the arrest.

 

[just the facts pls]

Lol. They want to investigate the Nissan Altima driver and not simply ask if they seen a vehicle in the area at 2 am.

Now they may know whom it is but want to see if they come forward on their own accord.

But what if the person was driving on a suspended license or something?

Or lied to a spouse while visiting a mistress? Would they really want to come forward. Especially knowing that LE wants to pry and not just ask about anything suspicious that the person may have seen.

Jmo

Quoting to "bump" and to agree that there's many reasons the owner of the Nissan won't come forward that might not have anything to do with Missy's murder.

LE said that the Nissan was parked for a few minutes at a nearby business and left.

The nearest business is a half mile away per Google Maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cre...3de37ab52ab3f6!2m2!1d-96.9206383!2d32.4419322

And there's no indication in the news whether the car dropped anyone off or not.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-search-for-vehicle-of-interest-in-texas-church-murder/

I am still confused as to whether the car is relevant or not.

 

[txmommy]

It will be hard for me to exist here since I'm FIRMLY rooted that Brandon did not kill Missy or ask anyone to kill Missy, but I'll give it a try if my local perspective can answer a question for someone (without it being speculative or betraying my friends' confidences).

I don't know how to go about verifying I am who I say I am, but if a moderator wants to reach out to me, I'm glad to go through the process.

Welcome, Honeybee! I am local to the area also and will definitely appreciate your input.

Just an FYI- Websleuths is victim-friendly and the mods are very good about ensuring it stays that way. Any accusations and innuendo regarding the family are typically deleted.

 

[mjp1228]

What if it, hypothetically speaking, imposing the death penalty meant that someone would lose their father?

IMHOO Once the person decided to commit this horrible murder, they pretty much gave up their right to raise their child/children. IMOO the child would be served better without the murderer there to participate in their upbringing. Let someone who wouldn't do anything to endanger their relationship with said child raise them. Again, IMHOO.

 

[No it's not]

According to MLPD briefing it was raining that morning and Chief Johnson mentioned, that they did not quite understand why the license plaid was so well lit up and yet the camera did not pick up the info. He then adds the rain conditions etc. *may* have interfered with a clear reading. It seems to me - and that is strictly a thought - that they went back and checked older tape recordings with similar weather conditions, or that they even tested it out themselves mocking the conditions or waiting for a nightly rain and it was inconclusive. If the license tag was indeed manipulated via blocker spray (as posted earlier) or via else, MLPD may have come to the conclusion, that the cameras should have picked up the tag and that they really want to talk to the owner of that vehicle for clarification. In that case they would not know the owners ID and hence the mentioning of the oval sticker as an additional start point. -Nin

 

[lonetraveler]

Apparently all family, friends, and co-workers have been cleared by law enforcement:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/midl...rkers-are-suspects-in-bevers-murder/206847689

Actually law enforcement have not identified a suspect at all in this case.

 

[Natisleuth]

It will be hard for me to exist here since I'm FIRMLY rooted that Brandon did not kill Missy or ask anyone to kill Missy,

You are not alone I do not believe BB had anything to do with this.

 

[Spellbound]

I saw your apology after the press conference. I would have commented then, but I wasn't a registered member yet. It's okay that people suspect Brandon--Most women are killed by a spouse. You were justified in suspecting his involvement based on that statistic. But you kept an open mind with Kevin's last press statement and I appreciate that. Thank you for the prayers. They need them. Desperately.

You have a kind heart, Honeybee. Please let the family know that many are sending prayers their way. I imagine they want the person arrested even more than we do.

 

[PibblePal]

It will be hard for me to exist here since I'm FIRMLY rooted that Brandon did not kill Missy or ask anyone to kill Missy, but I'll give it a try if my local perspective can answer a question for someone (without it being speculative or betraying my friends' confidences).

I don't know how to go about verifying I am who I say I am, but if a moderator wants to reach out to me, I'm glad to go through the process.

Conviction is different and can be more powerful than theory.
You're in the right place here at WS. Everyone has their opinions based on what they see, hear etc, not based on character. However, there is a reason IMO for no bashing... And these type of scenarios are just one reason why.
Stand by what you feel. There is nothing more admirable in a person, regardless of what others may or may not think.
LE will do their job, mods will do their job. You just have to trust the process. And I can't imagine how difficult that is being an insider.
Bless those 3 precious girls.

 

[al66pine]

Since LE's first presser, some members have posted: (my paraphrasing) perp did not pre-target Ms B - she must have interrupted a burglar who then turned unexpectedly violent. Reasoning was - there was only "X" number of minutes Ms B would be scheduled to be at that location and be vulnerable/alone, etc and nobody would plan to kill if s/he could only count on having X number of minutes to do accomplish the goal.

OTOH, if we azz-ume (a big IF) perp* planned to kill Ms B & did not want to injure others (Ms B's dau's, other fam, neighbors, bystanders, et al) then what was ideal time & place that perp could have chosen?

IIUC, Ms B home schooled one dau, so perp would not have burst into B fam home. What place could perp chose? Public places - grocery store? school pick-up/drop-off or activities? Ms B's church? CG sessions? Beauty salon? <--- ppl around? IDK.

In thriller movies, prof sniper has 5 sec. window to shoot President or Pope, normally surrounded by security 24/7, and 5 sec is his only chance.

In planning to kill, could perp have decided it could be done there at CoC in "X" minutes (whether 5, 10, 30, or 60 minutes)? IDK.
A window of "X" minutes not lead me to conclude definitively Ms B died in an interrupted burglary. JM2cts, could be all wrong. IDK.


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* whether perp is prof hitman/woman; first time rank amateur, paid money or by other barter (perhaps emotional); disgruntled CG participant; RPG'er gone wild; a thrill killer; other.

 

[finine]

Lol. I do ramble some times. But the question sounds fairly simple. Just saying.

Okay. I will elaborate. The police made a statement after the murder about a car being spotted on camera in the far corner of the church scene.

Now they are asking about a Altima that was in another lot and caught directly on camera.

So are they saying that the Nissan was the same car spotted in the far corner at the murder scene?

Ahh yes, ok. We are wondering the same thing