TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

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:welcome4: Rodee34


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I agree with you regarding the quality of surveillance video. From what I've read the majority of surveillance video is so poor that it's typically not allowed to be used as evidence in court. With that in mind, what's the point in having surveillance if the quality is poor and most likely won't hold up in court? Maybe just to deter petty criminals? I would think career criminals or someone who is familiar with surveillance cameras would know exactly what to look for when scoping out a place.
I admit that I know very little about surveillance/security cameras, but IMO the 1st generation iPhone has better image quality (including video) than most of the security image/video that I've seen. Considering the 1st gen iPhone is old technology (released 9 years ago), surveillance cameras appear to be way behind the game. Sadly, once surveillance is installed property owners/managers forget about it until it's needed and all too often the system ends up being out dated, poorly maintained and the end result is usually not useful.

Yes....I always felt it odd that the church had security cameras but no alarm system.

Moo
 
Very well thought out post! I do find check ins to be odd and confirmed you can check in to anywhere from anywhere. For instance, I'm in Texas and checked into a place in South Carolina.

The CG camper was out of line notifying them instead of letting LE but honestly many of us would likely do the same in the same situation. However, I will never understand letting sister and mom tell the girls.

MapQuest did not include pit stop times for us on a recent 15-hr drive. We added over an extra hour in stopping times. I would think knowing the urgency and driving travel time would have been significantly shorter than Mapquest estimate to hurry up and get to the situation at home. Was it verified or rumor there was no flight home purchased?

I think perp is male based on walk, build, stance, tools, and behavior. I do find it interesting perp doesn't appear wet nor bothered by sweating, etc.

BBM
Re: MapQuest, I had tried to edit my post and couldn't. It was an unfinished thought. MapQuest gives you time based on posted speed limits on roads but doesn't include gas stop and potty stops.
 
BB
Procedure on 15th? Odd that someone in so much pain would drive self to airport, (two days after procedure) sit there for hours, and of all things schedule a bucket list fishing trip in all that pain he has been having for months. Casting - sitting on a boat - boat ride to spot bouncing up and down.


BB
Notes on FB that he is following weather pattern. Checks in on FB at hospital. Checks on weather and posts pic. Checks in - on way to airport hope my flight isn't delayed. Checks in outside of Oyster house? Did anyone confirm he actually ate there? You would think grab a burger take some pain meds and rest for big fishing day on Monday. (I am assuming his fishing day was Monday) Now why is checking in important in this situation - because in his prior posts he does not seem to check in. A friend of mine says this is suspicious as people who check in on FB always check in every where they go.


BB - no I do not think he did it.


BB - gets call from CG member. Ok who is this person and why would they do that and not let police take care of notification? Was this person the actual killer? What time did they call him? Where did the call ping from CG phone to his phone location? What time does police notify him? What time did he leave Biloxi (if he was even in Biloxi)? Mapquest shows drive time as 9 hours. He says it took him 9 hours. He had to stop for gas - where and at what time? Credit card maybe confirm this? In so much pain but can handle a 9 hour car ride without stopping? He makes note that the license plate is from MS. I mean who in the heck would care - his children should have been the only thing on his mind. Not his license plate.


BB - lets his Mom and Sister tell his children about their Mom. Mom and Sister say it was heart wrenching having to do that . I am not a man but several men (that have children) said they would have never allowed that. They would have told them to (as Moms have said too) to go to the house close the blinds take away their phones no TV and wait until he got there. Don't answer the door.


BB - TV interview was strange to say the least and myself and several women I know said they knew there was an affair before the press got hold of it. My wife wrote everyday for 10 months...but he never says that he wrote back. Maybe these messages should be checked. His description of his wife was almost identical to his brother in laws TV version. Strange.


CT - maybe she is not on radar anymore but isn't it odd that on the day MB gets murdered she goes and gets her hair cut and all dolled up and takes a photo and posts on FB. It is almost like she is taunting the police with that picture. Weird.


BB - could he have had a burner phone? I say this because I believe this was a coordinated effort to kill MB. They would have to known she left the house alone. That no one else was there in the parking lot. The person would have to know she would go to kitchen to fill up water bottles (got this part off of web sleuths). Schedule had to be directly known. No guessing.




Missy - why didn't she wait for another camper to show up? Apparently this is a rule of CG for safety reasons (web sleuths) if someone was suppose to meet her - who was it? Did she call this person and say I am on my way - see you there? Was this the person already laying in wait for her? Their car and maybe she recognized it and felt safe to go in.


At first I thought this was a woman not so sure now. 50/50. Mainly because my men friends say that a guy would walk around and I would think a woman would just lie in wait.


Note: There is a picture on RB's FB page under friends. Says Jac and BV. The picture by the sign is very similar to the way Perp is standing by bulletin board. Was this guy (I believe he is a Bever because on the golf cart picture there is a Beaver hanging from it) in the medical field or fireman, law enforcement? He is wearing a cap that says Wheelan. I am a graphic designer and the two e's make a graphic similar to what the perp is holding in his left hand at end of video.
He was leaving for a 24 day trip to Australia on April 18th. (Does RB have a brother?). Could he have taken a large duffle bag and dropped it in the ocean?


Perp - with all the rain we were having that morning - why didn't Perp appear wet? Not even helmet appears wet. Wouldn't the Perp have gotten soaked with all the damage the news showed at rear of Church being outside for an extended amount of time?


BB - did MPD actually go to Biloxi and confirm his story . Not rely on LE there? Take several pics of him and others (look alike) just to see if anyone recognized him.


According to Magazine article BB did not tell about affairs. His Mom was there when police told him what was coming out. He said I already forgave her for that.


Did BB actually stay on plane? If they boarded and were delayed by rainstorm the airline must let you off plane to get something to eat.


I know this is long - and not implicating anyone, however, these things need to be discussed. Missy is the victim. Her children are the innocent ones having to live life without their Mom. And...since I believe this to be a targeted hit on MB...everyone including BB (his words) should be on the table for this horrific crime that has stunned a small town.


Sparky this might get me in trouble and that's ok because I believe we are here for the truth and if this sight brings LE to it to read comments or sparks something in a WS's thinking that might provide a lead then I am all for it.

Please remember Missy Bevers IS the victim.

Sorry, if this has been commented on or posted....

BUT~~WOW, what a great post!!!

:ditto::yeahthat:
 
Thus far, on this site, this is the best enhancement of the object with credit by rodee34 It may appear to be white but it is actually silver in color. It is metal as you can catch the light reflections on it. Notice the odd shape from end to end. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post12617562
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Is that some type of "tool"? (I looks to me like it "might" be.)
 
:welcome4: Rodee34


:newhere: I'm new to WB as well! I joined specifically to follow this case. I'm pretty impressed......I''ll be sticking around! :greetings:


:wagon: to both of you! CAUTION: This site can become very addicting. I joined to follow a case, then another, then another, and yet here I am following yet another...LOL
 
I just went back and reread the entire transcript of the May 20 press conference, and something really stood out to me. If you read the third paragraph, Chief Kevin Johnson makes a clear distinction between a POI and a suspect. He then says, "None of the people named in our affidavits are now suspects." Please note that he does not indicate that none of those people are now POIs. IMO, it is a very clear and deliberate distinction that he draws.

He follows up those words with the following statement. "Until Missy's killer is caught, I will stop short of saying that any person is absolutely excluded, but to be clear none of Missy's family are the focus of this investigation." He says that nobody has been absolutely cleared, but he makes sure to let people know that Missy's family is not the focus of the investigation. I think that we really need to focus on what was said and not said in that paragraph. The answer seems to be staring us in the face.

file:///C:/Users/Mommy/Downloads/MB%205-20-16%20FINAL.protected%20(1).pdf (Thank you for transcribing Galadriel)

Am I missing something here? Have I misconstrued what was said?
 
I just went back and reread the entire transcript of the May 20 press conference, and something really stood out to me. If you read the third paragraph, Chief Kevin Johnson makes a clear distinction between a POI and a suspect. He then says, "None of the people named in our affidavits are now suspects." Please note that he does not indicate that none of those people are now POIs. IMO, it is a very clear and deliberate distinction that he draws.

He follows up those words with the following statement. "Until Missy's killer is caught, I will stop short of saying that any person is absolutely excluded, but to be clear none of Missy's family are the focus of this investigation." He says that nobody has been absolutely cleared, but he makes sure to let people know that Missy's family is not the focus of the investigation. I think that we really need to focus on what was said and not said in that paragraph. The answer seems to be staring us in the face.

file:///C:/Users/Mommy/Downloads/MB%205-20-16%20FINAL.protected%20(1).pdf (Thank you for transcribing Galadriel)

Am I missing something here? Have I misconstrued what was said?

I don't know if you're missing anything -- but you must share with us what is the 'answer' that is 'staring us in the face'?
 
I don't know if you're missing anything -- but you must share with us what is the 'answer' that is 'staring us in the face'?

After reading through that, I think that it is pretty clear that LE believes that the POI, which may later become a suspect, is a person (or people) named in the affidavits. LE could have said that none of those people are a POI, but they did not say that. They chose their words very carefully.

Of course, Missy's family is not the focus of the investigation. Only one member of HER family, BB, was named in any of the SWs.
 
Nor the bad weather he must have had to drive through. Just a thought.
 
You made some interesting points some of which have been discussed on previous threads. So you might want to skim some of them. And of course there open for discussion because have so many new people joining in to the discussion to get different point of views. Let's see what I remember.

BB - TV interview was strange to say the least and myself and several women I know said they knew there was an affair before the press got hold of it. My wife wrote everyday for 10 months...but he never says that he wrote back. Maybe these messages should be checked. His description of his wife was almost identical to his brother in laws TV version. Strange.
Do some sleuthing off websleuths to see why texting may have been going on. Can't post rumors.


CT - maybe she is not on radar anymore but isn't it odd that on the day MB gets murdered she goes and gets her hair cut and all dolled up and takes a photo and posts on FB. It is almost like she is taunting the police with that picture. Weird.
Yes, its interesting. Here's some interesting listening http://www.spreaker.com/user/triciag/051216-the-true-crime-show



BB - could he have had a burner phone? I say this because I believe this was a coordinated effort to kill MB. They would have to known she left the house alone. That no one else was there in the parking lot. The person would have to know she would go to kitchen to fill up water bottles (got this part off of web sleuths). Schedule had to be directly known. No guessing.
There was some talk of LE searching local stores for a burner phone purchase though not specific to BB. I couldn't even begin to tell you which thread to look in.



Missy - why didn't she wait for another camper to show up? Apparently this is a rule of CG for safety reasons (web sleuths) if someone was suppose to meet her - who was it? Did she call this person and say I am on my way - see you there? Was this the person already laying in wait for her? Their car and maybe she recognized it and felt safe to go in.
It was also stated that CG trainers are supposed to arrive 45 mins before class to set up and generally classes are outside. So I'm not sure if MB was supposed to wait to go in because class was indoors this day or this rule didn't apply to trainers which wouldn't make sense


Perp - with all the rain we were having that morning - why didn't Perp appear wet? Not even helmet appears wet. Wouldn't the Perp have gotten soaked with all the damage the news showed at rear of Church being outside for an extended amount of time?
Some theories are dressed inside, stayed overnight in church, dropped off
 
Something else on my mind:
1) MB leaves home. (Would probably take 25-30 minutes in rain to get to church)
2) SP on standby but receives call saying she is on the way. No one with her. It's a go. Possibly person in Altima.
3) 2nd person following MB. Sees her go in from road. (There is room to pull over and if they turn off their lights she might not
Have noticed)
4)SP stuns her or knocks her out incapacitating her. Let's other person in and 2nd person finishes job. They both exit building.

Just a possible scenario. Any thoughts?
 
You made some interesting points some of which have been discussed on previous threads. So you might want to skim some of them. And of course there open for discussion because have so many new people joining in to the discussion to get different point of views. Let's see what I remember.

BB - TV interview was strange to say the least and myself and several women I know said they knew there was an affair before the press got hold of it. My wife wrote everyday for 10 months...but he never says that he wrote back. Maybe these messages should be checked. His description of his wife was almost identical to his brother in laws TV version. Strange.
Do some sleuthing off websleuths to see why texting may have been going on. Can't post rumors.


CT - maybe she is not on radar anymore but isn't it odd that on the day MB gets murdered she goes and gets her hair cut and all dolled up and takes a photo and posts on FB. It is almost like she is taunting the police with that picture. Weird.
Yes, its interesting. Here's some interesting listening http://www.spreaker.com/user/triciag/051216-the-true-crime-show



BB - could he have had a burner phone? I say this because I believe this was a coordinated effort to kill MB. They would have to known she left the house alone. That no one else was there in the parking lot. The person would have to know she would go to kitchen to fill up water bottles (got this part off of web sleuths). Schedule had to be directly known. No guessing.
There was some talk of LE searching local stores for a burner phone purchase though not specific to BB. I couldn't even begin to tell you which thread to look in.



Missy - why didn't she wait for another camper to show up? Apparently this is a rule of CG for safety reasons (web sleuths) if someone was suppose to meet her - who was it? Did she call this person and say I am on my way - see you there? Was this the person already laying in wait for her? Their car and maybe she recognized it and felt safe to go in.
It was also stated that CG trainers are supposed to arrive 45 mins before class to set up and generally classes are outside. So I'm not sure if MB was supposed to wait to go in because class was indoors this day or this rule didn't apply to trainers which wouldn't make sense


Perp - with all the rain we were having that morning - why didn't Perp appear wet? Not even helmet appears wet. Wouldn't the Perp have gotten soaked with all the damage the news showed at rear of Church being outside for an extended amount of time?
Some theories are dressed inside, stayed overnight in church, dropped off

thank you I will go listen and for more insight. :)
 
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