TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 April 2016 #4

[wildebeest]

I was working out with my personal trainer today. He said I'd be suprised at how many trainers, body builders use steroids.

He also told me that many of them are in pain due to an injury or sore muscles and so they take pain pills as well.

Steroids and pain medication are bad news and if booze is mixed in....look out.


He also advised that many are quite functional on both.

He wondered too if this was someone that Missy was going to report for steroid use as well as pain medication. That would be an incentive to keep her quiet.



Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk

Yes!!! You said it much better! :goodpost:

 

[Dushi]

Perhaps the perp did take something but unfortunately we as sleuthers do not have that evidence at the moment.
This case is unique because there is two minutes or less of video coverage we are shown ....
Twists and turns might happen in this case

THAT^ is the absolute truth!!!

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Interesting possibility, although it's quite a leap from being an extreme physical fitness buff to murder.

If this was targeted, there has to be a motive for targeting, which fear of being reported for criminal activity would be a motive for targeting. Not that I think that was the reason, but the poster is providing a motive based on certain members of the fitness culture.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

I'll be a source.
"A source confirms we don't know for sure what happened at the murder scene, why, how, or by whom."

Lol. Actually, you would be considered a reliable source, one worth cultivating, Inthedetails.

 

[Snow Flower]

Through years of watching these true crime shows and reading mysteries, like everyone else here probably has, just because it was a targeted hit it doesn't mean it was a professional. If there is such a thing.

Quite often it's somebody who agrees to do the hit, for a certain amount of money, just because they are buddies with the person who wants the hit done.

Just this past weekend I was watching a Snapped episode regarding a woman who had been telling several friends her husband was abusing her. One man "felt sorry" for her and killed the husband while she and another friend were at Walgreens. The break in the case came when LE put it all together, offered a deal to the killer and he squealed like a stuffed pig. I can think of a lot of other examples and I know you all can too.

My point is that just because it looks sloppy to some of us doesn't mean it wasn't a hit.

JMO

 

[Oregonmama]

No, it doesn’t make any sense, for any reason. They could have killed her in the parking lot and taken her purse to make it look like a robbery. They could have killed her while she was driving and made it look like a road rage incident. In a dark parking lot or on a highway at 4AM there would be no witnesses and no video evidence.

Just a thought,

The things that don't make sense to us might make a lot of sense to the perp(s)........

 

[KaaBoom]

We get it, you think it's a robbery gone bad.

Can we all please have our opinions without being condescending and acting as though we are the only ones who are right? We should all be keeping and open mind, because quite honestly NONE of us know exactly what happened or why.

I’m sorry that you consider me giving my opinion about this case to be condescending. I agree that none of us knows what happened. So why are you taking it so personally? We don’t all need to agree on it.

 

[Jsoeur]

I usually click “Reply With Quote” on the first post, and then copy the quoted text. Then I exit out of the reply window back to the thread. Then I click “Reply With Quote” on the second post, and then paste the quoted text from the last reply into that one, in what ever order I want it in. It works every time.

Right beside "Reply with Quote" there's an icon with quotes and a plus sign ("+)...Click that on however many posts you want to quote, and on the last one you choose, click Reply With Quote, and they'll all show up.

Briliant! Thanks All! Now, if I could stop replies from taking me all the way to the end of the thread.... LOL.

 

[Oregonmama]

If this was targeted, there has to be a motive for targeting, which fear of being reported for criminal activity would be a motive for targeting. Not that I think that was the reason, but the poster is providing a motive based on certain members of the fitness culture.

I was leaning more into the theory that someone was obsessed with Missy....a friend that she worked out with stated that
Missy wasn't her self the last couple of weeks.......someone loved her ideal life and was jealous......that could to point why LE can't say for sure if it was a woman or man dressed up as a swat officer.......

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

It sure is quite a set of coincidences that led up to this tragedy. The one MORNING that this remote CHURCH gets robbed (of nothing) just happens to coincide with an early morning boot camp taught by our victim. Also unfortunately coincidental is that our victim arrived at the location alone and before anyone else in the class. Further coincidental is that our robber/killer just happened to wear clothing that conceals his/her identity to the working security cameras.

The only thing that would make this whole situation even more crazy is if someone close to our victim had voiced concern about this kind of early morning boot camp thing before. If that had happened, oh boy would that be yet another coincidence!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Hence the vandalism aspect. And again, I was responding to someone asking why they'd do all that if it was a targeted murder, I'm not saying it was a staged robbery.

Someone might do that while waiting if that someone were young, angry, and bored (main reason). I believe he knew the cameras were recording him in the hallways (that's why the actual murder was not recorded - I believe it was purposely out of camera range, as was his exit). He may or may not have been trying to stage a burglary. Fact is, he'd already burgled by breaking and entering, so I'm not getting too drawn in to the staged/not staged battle. What is clear from the video is that this wandering was half-hearted (nothing gathered up, interior locks not breached like the exterior one), and completely secondary to the event he was waiting for.

IMO.

 

[lakshmi]

Through years of watching these true crime shows and reading mysteries, like everyone else here probably has, just because it was a targeted hit it doesn't mean it was a professional. If there is such a thing.

Quite often it's somebody who agrees to do the hit, for a certain amount of money, just because they are buddies with the person who wants the hit done.

Just this past weekend I was watching a Snapped episode regarding a woman who had been telling several friends her husband was abusing her. One man "felt sorry" for her and killed the husband while she and another friend were at Walgreens. The break in the case came when LE put it all together, offered a deal to the killer and he squealed like a stuffed pig. I can think of a lot of other examples and I know you all can too.

My point is that just because it looks sloppy to some of us doesn't mean it wasn't a hit.

JMO

BINGO!

Those of us that followed Teresa Siever's case unfold were shocked a valedictorian of his class decided to help his buddy out by murdering his wife. This valedictorian/security/IT specialist went into Walmart, one of the most camera monitored stores in America to get some last minute murder supplies.

You cannot make this stuff up. The "hitman" definitely could have taken a few too many liberties in the church that morning with the "murder make it look like a burglary" assignment.

These are all just thoughts for our pile. But I am reminded many times on these cases just when you have seen it all there is more.

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

I was leaning more into the theory that someone was obsessed with Missy....a friend that she worked out with stated that
Missy wasn't her self the last couple of weeks.......someone loved her ideal life and was jealous......that could to point why LE can't say for sure if it was a woman or man dressed up as a swat officer.......

Has anyone besides that one friend said anything about her not being herself?

 

[Dushi]

Whether this was targeted, whatever the reasons, whether this was something else entirely, the outcome is the same. A life taken. A family destroyed.
I think we are all here for the same reason, justice. I hope it is swift

 

[SpanishInquisition]

No, it doesn’t make any sense, for any reason. They could have killed her in the parking lot and taken her purse to make it look like a robbery. They could have killed her while she was driving and made it look like a road rage incident. In a dark parking lot or on a highway at 4AM there would be no witnesses and no video evidence.

Where is this omniscience coming from that exterior parking lot cameras aren't working that they would know there was no video evidence? Also road incidents are by definition targeted killings and it would look like an assassination if you shot someone in an undamaged moving car, if you hit them they could call someone and if you're talking about post-shooting staging that's a huge gamble that nobody will come driving down the highway and see you smashing a car if other drivers on the highway hadn't already seen you when the flash from the muzzle went off. The number of road rage shooting murders is exceedingly rare - and when they happen they tend to make big news - and would itself draw attention that there was some sort of acquaintance relationship to trigger such a shooting, especially in small town Midlothian.

 

[Oregonmama]

It sure is quite a set of coincidences that led up to this tragedy. The one MORNING that this remote CHURCH gets robbed (of nothing) just happens to coincide with an early morning boot camp taught by our victim. Also unfortunately coincidental is that our victim arrived at the location alone and before anyone else in the class. Further coincidental is that our robber/killer just happened to wear clothing that conceals his/her identity to the working security cameras.

The only thing that would make this whole situation even more crazy is if someone close to our victim had voiced concern about this kind of early morning boot camp thing before. If that had happened, oh boy would that be yet another coincidence!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think Missy's husband stated that he was concerned for her safety re the morning classes....I will find the link

 

[ocgrad]

Yeah, I guess criminals are stupid because why bother staging if you are not going to make it look real?If we see they took nothing, LE sees it immediately also
And, yes, I am aware that it happens over and over

Maybe they staged the "break in" only to fool Missy. So they could gain closeness to her, to lure her into a room where they could attack her. Maybe murder was not their intention but she struggled and as it got out of control they hit her with the breaching tool.

 

[Oregonmama]

Has anyone besides that one friend said anything about her not being herself?

I don't think so

 

[KaaBoom]

How would they know there would be no video evidence? You're placing omniscience into the killers mind that they had foreknowledge that the exterior cameras outside were not working.

OK, fair point. But I think we can agree that the killer knew there would be video camera inside. Hence his SWAT disguise. He must have known that he was leaving a lot of evidence by breaking into the church and walking around in there for half an hour while he smashed windows while being filmed. If he had done it out side, even if the cameras were working, he would have been leaving a lot less evidence. Video shots outside, at night time in the rain, would be a lot less useful then 30 minutes of video of him walking around the brightly lit hallways.

 

[texasgirl2]

Back to catching up.....darn research paper! :gaah:

Then again, what is a "real hit man"? Someone in the CIA? A hit in a case like this is far more more likely to be the idiot friend or relative of the person who wants her dead. And telling that person to make it look like a robbery is probably going to result in the weirdness we see in the clips that have been released.

BBM: Yes! THIS. Exactly my thoughts on the "hit" theory. IMO, this person was performing for the camera, doing a really poor job of it and probably didn't know it at the time because:

a) they hadn't ever seen themselves on surveillance footage to see how ridiculous they look; and/or
b) they were inexperienced/nervous; and/or
c) they thought they could make everyone believe that they were just there to vandalize (or rob) the church based solely on their actions in the footage (because they thought that's what "make it look like vandalism or robbery" meant?! In other words, not a member of WS unless they joined in the past week or so.)

I'd LOVE to see what they were doing in the rest of the footage. But I totally agree on the idiot friend or relative.

I'll be a source.
"A source confirms we don't know for sure what happened at the murder scene, why, how, or by whom."

Goodness. Isn't that the truth!! :facepalm:

A gunshot would likely have been heard from the parking lot, hampering his get-away. With that tight timeline, the perp wouldn't risk using a gun, I think.

I have been thinking the same thing. I would be surprised if a gun was involved. The only reason it's even a theory though is because of ATF's involvement though, right?!

I personally don't believe that MB was killed with a gun. MOO.

No, it doesn’t make any sense, for any reason. They could have killed her in the parking lot and taken her purse to make it look like a robbery. They could have killed her while she was driving and made it look like a road rage incident. In a dark parking lot or on a highway at 4AM there would be no witnesses and no video evidence.

It absolutely does make sense for several reasons. One important reason being that this could be very personal and this person wanted MB to see their face and wanted her to be afraid. We don't know the mental state of this person AT ALL. I mean, I could say a few choice words but they may not be accurate. The fact is, some people who murder actually enjoy it. We don't know this person's history. For all we know, they have killed before. Or, another reason is that maybe this is a game to this person and they wanted to taunt LE?! What I'm saying is....this perp (I am not a fan of the word either) isn't smart by ANY stretch of the imagination. Who knows why they chose to do this in this way? This is why I don't think we can look at the person's action on 2 minutes of footage and definitively think that MB was in the wrong place at the wrong time & there was absolutely no other reason to commit murder in this church other than the fact that MB walked in on something. There's SO much we don't know. Obviously. Otherwise, we'd all at least agree on something!! Gender, motive, murder weapon, entry/exit from the church, suspects....the list goes on. The fact is, we know NOTHING other than what LE has given us which isn't much.....at all.

But, we do know one thing. This person doesn't seem to be in a big rush walking around the church (casing and checking out the place) so TO ME, it doesn't look like the "usual" robbery. And, I also don't see enough vandalism in the 2 minutes of footage to say that messing up the church was the goal either.

Through years of watching these true crime shows and reading mysteries, like everyone else here probably has, just because it was a targeted hit it doesn't mean it was a professional. If there is such a thing.

Quite often it's somebody who agrees to do the hit, for a certain amount of money, just because they are buddies with the person who wants the hit done.

Just this past weekend I was watching a Snapped episode regarding a woman who had been telling several friends her husband was abusing her. One man "felt sorry" for her and killed the husband while she and another friend were at Walgreens. The break in the case came when LE put it all together, offered a deal to the killer and he squealed like a stuffed pig. I can think of a lot of other examples and I know you all can too.

My point is that just because it looks sloppy to some of us doesn't mean it wasn't a hit.

JMO

BBM: Absolutely! It could be due to inexperience, nerves or it could all be an act/performance.