Oregonmama
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Can LE restrict peoples movements when they're not under arrest?
No, but they can be put under surveillance . I'm sure many ppl are being watched now
Can LE restrict peoples movements when they're not under arrest?
Initially I thought the same, now, after viewing the perp video over and over again, I believe the amount of strength to break in at the several areas where done, would be one less accomplished and not done as quickly as by a female. I am leaning towards a male, over 40 ( due to slightly overweight/difficulty with extra weight of gear) and not a professional hitman, but a likely first-time/inexperienced killer.
Does anyone know approximately how long Missy had been teaching classes at the church?
I understand that LE only took one shirt.
The question I have is why did they take only one when their own search warrant describes more than one shirt with bloodstains was dropped off at the cleaners?
I don't understand why this is so freaky. You have to give the app permission to access your FB so of course it has your info. It's not just randomly gathering data on you.
Well you are made of sterner stuff than I gunga-din!
What does it do? I don't go on sites I am unsure of. Can you tell us please?
Good morning y'all!
I'm still trying to catch up.
I get that (it's not really a way to see what is public on your profile, you give permission for the app to access your information) but it's the guy.....at the computer. You aren't freaked out by that? I'm sorry but I totally am.
Right?! The guy freaked me completely!!
It's an app that you give permission for FB to access. It doesn't do anything harmful....I used it for the first time years ago and got it from a friend in LE. Once you give it permission, it shows a dirty guy at a computer looking up your FB profile. You can see his screen and he scrolls through pictures of your family. If you have locations that you checked in to on FB, he looks at maps to see if he can find you. The entire time he is grinning and then getting very ummmm....turned on (?) by the information he's found on you. The simulation is just really creepy and it gives you a lot to think about in regards to what you share on FB. It's not exactly accurate to what you share to the public. You've given it access so it has the information you would share with friends. It is just something to give you an idea of why what you share on your social media needs to be protected.
I think my number one want besides justice of course will be to finally find out whether 20 yr old girl or 50 yr old man!! I have wavered so many times. I lean toward girl but you make great case for male based on door handle breaking strength. I see where they broke glass though and that to me looks like a female hitting the glass. I guess they have ruled out 2? Or I'd say 2 dressed exactly alike one of each!!!!!
I noticed that too. I'm going with two shirts had blood stains because that's what Randy said. We haven't heard from anyone else like the clerk or LE saying that he's wrong.Unsure, it says "shirts that appear to have blood stains on them" But then it goes on to say RB told the employees "the shirt" had animal blood on it. .. Reading as 1. So I am understanding it to mean only 1 shirt appeared to actually have blood on it. Again I am unsure, JMHO how it reads to me and only 1 shirt was listed on the Exhibit A.
Cub corner is just the nursery it's not a hallway. It is just set deep into the wall.
In this case pretty much it does mean that. Since there was no other place to park, without walking a very lone distance in the dark. Which would have made escape almost impossible.
It was 4AM there would have been little to no traffic on the highway. The church is far enough off the highway that it is unlikely passing motorist (if there were any) would not even have noticed.
If it was that challenging, every 15 year old gang-banger wouldn’t be doing it.
If that's the case, then the police are barking up the wrong tree. Drive-by-shooting is a common effective way of killing people. Especially if a semiautomatic weapon is used. A walk up shooting would be even more effective.
Very good points! I have seen anywhere from 6-15ish at most of the early am ones posted. More for later in day at times. I think from what I have observed where I live, the groups become pretty close BUT, there is always the oddballs who drop out or get mad or think romantic things when they shouldn't etc. I am sure that after family, LE is really looking into Campers as you have suggested.I believe LE have stated that it is strictly 1 perp only throughout the video footage. At least as far as what they've disclosed thus far!
Do we know how many people on average came to her Gladiator camps.. 5, 10, 15? Did she keep records of names, exercise intentions etc on each of her clients? I think LE could go back about six months and try to match any physical characteristics, if in fact she kept such stats on her clients. Also, who has dropped out of her sessions in the last 3 to 6 months??!! That would be a tedious task for LE to do!
Let me see if this helps. View attachment 93070
What is the dutch doors A and where did the Perp go when went into that room across the hall from the dutch doors?
Where was the Perp coming from *the B area. Is that the main hallway as in from front of church entrance with all that glass then going to the Right?
C what is there? it it just a wall that the camera is attached to at the top?
D.. Door... where does that door lead out to? Awning/ front/back/opposite side of church than awning.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. Just trying to get my bearings lol :facepalm:
Now I can follow along....I was having a tough time understanding what doors everyone was referencing. Thank you SO much y'all for making this more clear!!
ETA: So, is the Cub Nursery across from A in this photo that is labeled??
unlikely to be a hired hit and heres why:
Whoever did it could've shot her in a driveby any old where
this guy went to Extreme Lengths. Extreme. He disguised himself to Terrorise which is not normal Hitman behavior.
he could've parked outside her house, shot her in her driveway
all this breaking in half hour before, wandering about, dressed up like a cop - that's behavior that indicates hes ENJOYING himself
his plan is to intercept terrorise and then kill Missy
not a Hit which tend to be quick drivebys.