UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #4

[Officer Dibble]

This has been a horrific case. RIP Alesha

 

[HayLouise]

Alesha MacPhail's killer is now behind bars. The boy, 16, abducted, raped and murdered the 6-year-old schoolgirl on the Isle of Bute last year. Our reporter .@philmcdonald94 reports from the island. #HeartNews

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[charlotte123456]

Naming the killers of James Bulger led to their families having to have new identities. I believe I read somewhere that RT’s family had to move 8 times in a short space of time as people kept getting suspicious and working out who they were.

If they do release his identity they should provide a new one for the sister and possibly mum.

I think it’s a very different case. RT and JV were sufficiently young that members of the public did blame their parents - particularly in RT’s case as he was known to have a difficult childhood.

In this case, the GUILTY party’s mother was instrumental in bringing him to justice and, although we don’t know the ins and outs of guilty’s childhood (yet), suffice to say he lived on a picturesque small island (not inner city Liverpool), had an iPhone 6, plenty of outdoor space and from all accounts appeared well educated and from a decent family. We know his mum drank, but we do not know to what extent as the guilty has been proven to be a compulsive liar.

Crucially, this boy is SIXTEEN years old. I do not believe anyone would be interested in targeting his mum or sister.

 

[Gardenista]

Do we have a photo or video of the pier where the accused said he jumped off and lost his pants? I know it is BS, but I'm just trying to get a feel for the area.

ETA, is the water warm in July?

 

[molly67]

I wonder what the sentence will be - do you think he will get off lightly and put in young offenders 'place' or what I hope put in Carstairs indefinitely

 

[charlotte123456]

Do we have a photo or video of the pier where the accused said he jumped off and lost his pants? I know it is BS, but I'm just trying to get a feel for the area.

ETA, is the water warm in July?

Water is FREEZING even in July!

 

[Nikynoo]

I wonder what the sentence will be - do you think he will get off lightly and put in young offenders 'place' or what I hope put in Carstairs indefinitely

i think he'll get the maximum sentence allowed - indefinite detainment - BUT it will depend on any assessments undertaken as to how long and where he will be.

 

[Gardenista]

Water is FREEZING even in July!

Thanks. I thought it might be, but I was not sure what to google. Is it Loch Striven?

 

[bfin1995]

Just catching up (what a day to be stuck in meetings! ). Justice prevails, well done to the jury. Good to know the accused's 'performance' held little sway.

 

[charlotte123456]

Thanks. I thought it might be, but I was not sure what to google. Is it Loch Striven?

I’m not local, but looks that way to me on google maps.

 

[Gardenista]

I’m not local, but looks that way to me on google maps.

Thanks, found it and you are right it's freezing

Dunoon Sea Temperature July Average, United Kingdom | Sea Temperatures

Dunoon average July sea temperature
Max: 15.4°C / 58.3°F
Avg: 13.6°C / 56.5°F
Min: 11.8°C / 54.7°F

 

[Detective_dog]

I think it’s a very different case. RT and JV were sufficiently young that members of the public did blame their parents - particularly in RT’s case as he was known to have a difficult childhood.

In this case, the GUILTY party’s mother was instrumental in bringing him to justice and, although we don’t know the ins and outs of guilty’s childhood (yet), suffice to say he lived on a picturesque small island (not inner city Liverpool), had an iPhone 6, plenty of outdoor space and from all accounts appeared well educated and from a decent family. We know his mum drank, but we do not know to what extent as the guilty has been proven to be a compulsive liar.

Crucially, this boy is SIXTEEN years old. I do not believe anyone would be interested in targeting his mum or sister.

I suspect that things might come out that would make life difficult for the sister. I wouldn’t dream that anyone would blame her but being a teenage girl in today’s society is hard enough without being known as ‘that child killer’s’ sister. Just my opinion but I think the courts need to look at her protection.

 

[Yenriac]

Do we have a photo or video of the pier where the accused said he jumped off and lost his pants? I know it is BS, but I'm just trying to get a feel for the area.

ETA, is the water warm in July?

I can't imagine the water being very warm, warmer than normal as we had a good summer on the west coast. Wouldn't be that warm at night though.

 

[Yenriac]

I wonder what the sentence will be - do you think he will get off lightly and put in young offenders 'place' or what I hope put in Carstairs indefinitely

I don't think he'll get off lightly but he'll be in a young offenders then moved to adult jail at 21.

 

[truthseeker1975]

I think the next question is, will he end up in prison, or a secure hospital, just a fact on the scottish hospitals, in Scotland unlike England and Wales, the electric shock treatment is used, so is not such a softer option, and could anyone answer the question to time sentence if in a hospital or prison ?

 

[sindydee]

Again, thanks for everyone for the tweets and updates. So glad he has been found guilty.

 

[Detective_dog]

I think the next question is, will he end up in prison, or a secure hospital, just a fact on the scottish hospitals, in Scotland unlike England and Wales, the electric shock treatment is used, so is not such a softer option, and could anyone answer the question to time sentence if in a hospital or prison ?

I think maybe a secure hospital to start with. They will need to address the mental health issues that he must obviously have.

 

[Yenriac]

I think the next question is, will he end up in prison, or a secure hospital, just a fact on the scottish hospitals, in Scotland unlike England and Wales, the electric shock treatment is used, so is not such a softer option, and could anyone answer the question to time sentence if in a hospital or prison ?

Depends on the psychological reports. He didn't use an insanity plea at any point therefore i think prison.

 

[angeldust]

Whether he gets named or not the scottish prison system is very very small. Everyone at P will know who he is just now and when he comes of age they will know who he is as a transfer.

Agreed and prisoners will be telling family, they cant hide who he is

 

[molly67]

I think the next question is, will he end up in prison, or a secure hospital, just a fact on the scottish hospitals, in Scotland unlike England and Wales, the electric shock treatment is used, so is not such a softer option, and could anyone answer the question to time sentence if in a hospital or prison ?

I hope he ends up in Carstairs - don't think the electric shock treatment is used anymore tbh - I stand to be corrected