UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #10

[Pooks101]

You could be right! Sounds like the perfect night to make a bad decision... like phoning an ex? Or meeting a hook up for some sympathy/attention?
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I'm not necessarily thinking AWOL now....I'm thinking desperation. Someone who needs attention, and intimate attention at that.

I posted a few weeks ago about him going AWOL. I was sure of the logistics of it. Now I'm still sure of the logistics of it but for a different reason. He still needs to get away, he still needs help to do that, he still needs transport, he still needs affection.....this now has more of the hallmarks of some sort of hookup than ever.

Everything that has happened that night suggests a person who is or has been ostracised. He's loud, he's flamboyant, he's the team medic so he stands out from his brick. He wears different clothes, he seems to occasionally be a social hand granade. He looking for some social interaction and his mates have disowned him to a certain degree. <modsnip>
I can now see a hookup developing in his mind. Read through the timeline again and try to imagine it. It's not too difficult.


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[Pooks101]

Agreed. I live hundreds of miles away from my parents too and even when I went through a really rough patch about 5 years ago it was all too easy to sound bright and breezy on calls home as I didn't want to worry them. Even at my age now I don't tell them everything, I'm almost blushing at the thought of discussing my weekend antics! Need to know basis and all that!

I totally agree. And as a parent with a son in his early twenties, living hundreds of miles away, there are aspects of his life and about him that I will know nothing about, so I don't understand how a family can with absolute conviction, say that they know their son's mind and what he would or wouldn't do. We know what each of us allows outwardly and what emotions and feelings we choose to portray. JMO With mental health, very complex.

 

[Miss_French]

I think the thing that bothers me more is that night has been portrayed has a normal night and if anything Corrie was happier than ever. I'm really not seeing it at all. So why paint this hunky dory picture?

Agreed. Corrie seems to socialise regularly, in town or with family. Why describe him as "beyond happy" on this particular night? I mean, I have great times out with family and friends but it's exactly that; people say I'm looking got ward to it, it was great, I enjoyed it, not I was beyond happy.

 

[Northern Light]

I'm not necessarily thinking AWOL now....I'm thinking desperation. Someone who needs attention, and intimate attention at that.

I posted a few weeks ago about him going AWOL. I was sure of the logistics of it. Now I'm still sure of the logistics of it but for a different reason. He still needs to get away, he still needs help to do that, he still needs transport, he still needs affection.....this now has more of the hallmarks of some sort of hookup than ever.

Everything that has happened that night suggests a person who is or has been ostracised. He's loud, he's flamboyant, he's the team medic so he stands out from his brick. He wears different clothes, he seems to occasionally be a social hand granade. He looking for some social interaction and his mates have disowned him to a certain degree. <modsnip>
I can now see a hookup developing in his mind. Read through the timeline again and try to imagine it. It's not too difficult.


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His clothes, car, social media poses and presence and his conducting the band, you tube singing, says to me too, he loves attention and to be noticed. Very flamboyant outwardly but may be a mask. He seems to be a risk taker. He may be very lonely deep down and as you say looking for intimacy and he looked dejected and forlorn in the last CCTV. JMO

 

[WhereIsJohnnyGosch]

There's obviously a reason why Corrie declined a lift home, then leaves and goes the opposite way his car is.

The Grapes pub closes at 2am on a Friday, does it fit in the time line that he was waiting for someone to come out of there at closing time? Possibly someone who was with other people and couldn't be seen with him so Corrie decided to wait down the road? Then fell asleep.


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[janeh]

I totally agree. And as a parent with a son in his early twenties, living hundreds of miles away, there are aspects of his life and about him that I will know nothing about, so I don't understand how a family can with absolute conviction, say that they know their son's mind and what he would or wouldn't do. We know what each of us allows outwardly and what emotions and feelings we choose to portray. JMO With mental health, very complex.

Exactly and I just don't get why the family insist that they would know if Corrie was unhappy. Our children do not tell us absolutely everything especially if they think we would be disappointed in some way. My son went through a period of depression following a traumatic event in his life that he couldn't tell me about. He suffered for months before confiding in me and his Dad. He even said that when he was frying in his room that he wanted his Sister to walk in and ask him what was wrong. He wanted that to happen but couldn't say the words out loud to us or his two older Sisters. This is why I keep thinking of AWOL and wonder if Corrie couldn't talk to either if his parents due to the estrangement.

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[MidsummersDay]

I'd strongly suggest that you guys check out YouTube. Type in the relevant information and it's surprising what comes up when the name 'Corrie' is inserted. It gives an insight into his personality. I think it's important, as we may be able to form an opinion (NOT JUDGMENT) of Corrie and his possible intentions that night.
Have a look and see what you think?


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[Dcflag]

Hold on, how on earth has the doorman only heard about Corrie being missing on Monday? I thought there were flyers all over the city?

 

[janeh]

Hold on, how on earth has the doorman only heard about Corrie being missing on Monday? I thought there were flyers all over the city?

I thought the police or the family had spoken with the doorman and that is why they said that all it took was a tap on the shoulder when asked to leave.

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[Amonet]

Hold on, how on earth has the doorman only heard about Corrie being missing on Monday? I thought there were flyers all over the city?

I thought it meant the Monday Corrie was reported missing?

 

[Dcflag]

I thought it meant the Monday Corrie was reported missing?

Perhaps I read it wrong, it's late I blame the baby lol

 

[Ashbeck]

Hold on, how on earth has the doorman only heard about Corrie being missing on Monday? I thought there were flyers all over the city?

It says "the Monday", so presumably the Monday he was reported missing rather than Monday just gone.

 

[Miss_French]

When I read it back it makes me wonder about Corries state of mind. Was he lonely? I do believe everyone who knew Corrie from home who knew him as happy, fun, full of life. But that's not how it's coming across as life on base was for him. Not one friend (RAF or otherwise, because I'm sure after 3 years he had friends from outside of the military if he was indeed a regular on the club scene) from BSE or surrounding areas has come forward to say anything about Corries personality, that night, previous nights. All the people talking about what a good guy he was in media reports have been staff from bars, clubs or takeaways. Did he actually have may true friends away from home or are they all occasional drinking buddies?

The military are careful who they put in front of the camera, usually an officer with media training. TBH, Regiment Gunners are employed for brawn, not brains and may not come over well in the spotlight; reading a prepared statement could look artificial and it wouldn't come over well if they were evasive on questions or let something slip that was detrimental to the investigation or the RAF, even something about 'protocol' for nights out.

I mean (for the Forces types on here) whatever happened to Sharkwatch?

 

[Shiressleuth]

I have just read the timeline on the find corrie website www.findcorrie.co.uk and the following entries are shown
03.24 corrie leaves hughes doorway
03.24 to 04.30 phone is traced leaving Bury and arriving Barton Mills near Mildenhall .
03.25 corrie enters horseshoe area

This almost indicates that corrie left his phone in the doorway. I am unable to post the exact link so if someone else could double check this also it would be helpful and verify this.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I have just read the timeline on the find corrie website www.findcorrie.co.uk and the following entries are shown
03.24 corrie leaves hughes doorway
03.24 to 04.30 phone is traced leaving Bury and arriving Barton Mills near Mildenhall .
03.25 corrie enters horseshoe area

This almost indicates that corrie left his phone in the doorway. I am unable to post the exact link so if someone else could double check this also it would be helpful and verify this.

I did wonder if someone found his phone in the doorway and chucked it when they realised it was a bit rubbish.

Also, is there a bin between the doorway and the horseshoe? Did he leave his food cartons in the doorway or bin it elsewhere?

 

[Northern Light]

I'd strongly suggest that you guys check out YouTube. Type in the relevant information and it's surprising what comes up when the name 'Corrie' is inserted. It gives an insight into his personality. I think it's important, as we may be able to form an opinion (NOT JUDGMENT) of Corrie and his possible intentions that night.
Have a look and see what you think?


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He is a performer and loves performing, is totally comfortable with himself in front of camera and comes across as extrovert. Many (not all) performers have deep insecurities deep down behind their performance. They crave adoration and attention. I am not saying Corrie has but many I have worked with over the years, in acting and comedy do. As I watched his videos I wondered why was he in the RAF and why he had not pursued a career in performing arts, modelling eg. Conducting the RAF band that day it may have been cringe to some but Corrie was happy, as he was performing to an audience and with all his videos it's a case of never mind the quality of the performance, I am performing and people are viewing. Same with joining in the singing on his last night seen on BBC East. It's like a drug for some people the need to perform and be noticed and be adored by people. There is a sweet innocence in him. JMO. I do hope he is alive.

 

[Amonet]

Thinking back on the investigation, at first the Grapes video was put forward as the 'last known sighting', but then they said they had later CCTV but wouldn't show it. Maybe the EADT article is just using the earlier CCTV and appending the last known time (at that time) onto the earlier footage. While this may seem strange to us, as we are being pedants over every little thing, it seems to be the sort of thing a newspaper might do instead of belabouring relatively minor points that the general public aren't ever going to catch.

The pizza place had CCTV footage that was shown in the hub earlier on in the investigation...that should have had timestamps on it. So the police should have a good idea of what time Corrie left Flex, went to get food, and the time he was passing the Grapes, even if we are getting some slightly muddled versions in the reporting.

 

[WhereIsJohnnyGosch]

He is a performer and loves performing, is totally comfortable with himself in front of camera and comes across as extrovert. Many (not all) performers have deep insecurities deep down behind their performance. They crave adoration and attention. I am not saying Corrie has but many I have worked with over the years, in acting and comedy do. As I watched his videos I wondered why was he in the RAF and why he had not pursued a career in performing arts, modelling eg. Conducting the RAF band that day it may have been cringe to some but Corrie was happy, as he was performing to an audience and with all his videos it's a case of never mind the quality of the performance, I am performing and people are viewing. Same with joining in the singing on his last night seen on BBC East. It's like a drug for some people the need to perform and be noticed and be adored by people. JMO.

I think he means the one where he spoke about Thai ladyboys and being lonely.


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[Northern Light]

I have just read the timeline on the find corrie website www.findcorrie.co.uk and the following entries are shown
03.24 corrie leaves hughes doorway
03.24 to 04.30 phone is traced leaving Bury and arriving Barton Mills near Mildenhall .
03.25 corrie enters horseshoe area

This almost indicates that corrie left his phone in the doorway. I am unable to post the exact link so if someone else could double check this also it would be helpful and verify this.

or binned it himself and when he changed direction and walked into that area, it may have been to bin his phone.

 

[Northern Light]

I think he means the one where he spoke about Thai ladyboys and being lonely.


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Ah sorry I misread, I looked at them all.