UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #13

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wow this takes ages to load! so im interested inthe map showing the 5km radius - dont we all think that the searching should be done along all the roads that branch off the barton mills roundabout?

In those images originally posted by Midsummers Day, has an eagle-eyed sleuth already noted that the door to Focus 12 is wide open at night in the fourth pic down? So in theory anyone could walk in...
 
I agree with you
well golly gosh! if the bin man is reading on this forum - trying to solve this crime before he is lynched by forum users, i bet he has now thrown his bin mans cap in the air, in a moment of triumph! poor bin man :loveyou:
 
In those images originally posted by Midsummers Day, has an eagle-eyed sleuth already noted that the door to Focus 12 is wide open at night in the fourth pic down? So in theory anyone could walk in...
It was our eagle eyed sleuth sld286 i think who noticed and took this picture after seeing a jogger run past and into there. Great spot.
 
Yes lusijay great job thanks and cotton, a "resources" thread sounds good.

Agreed - it's impossible to keep them all on page 1 or 2 of a thread which is what I've been diplomatically trying to suggest - just in case this goes on a lot longer - it could get to 20 threads ( hopefully it doesn't even get to a crime invest/trial etc!)

I would have done it myself , but I'm not informed enough on the case, coming v late - as I would have made errors.

I don't really want to keep asking Greater Than to move stuff as she has had already a massive task modding the 12 threads so far.
If she is happy with me/herself re. opening one, then all posters can indicate/request just thru normal posts here, what they would like moving over to a resources thread. ( This is then so much easier for WS new members, and they are the lifeblood of the forum etc etc)
 
No problem, snip away! I agree with you, my partner is a bouncer, and I lived above the club he worked at (it's how we met, aww :) ), and so I would stand on the doors with him at the weekend to keep him company, or help out if I could (ambulance calling, calming people down, giving coffee, getting food for people, etc), and he never ever kicked someone out for being too drunk if they weren't causing a problem, so C must have done something that we're not being told about, or, and this is the only reason my partner says he would through out someone who hadn't done anything wrong, he was being protected from something. Maybe the doormen had seen something was going to unfold and so they moved him away for his own good. It could be that the person he was being moved away from, later caught up with him in the horseshoe :( hmmmm

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It is a good point given he disappeared soon after Flex closed at 3 am. Someone might have just spotted him and decided to follow. Maybe the police should look at this like any other case and start with who would want to hurt him? Details from the bouncer might help. For that matter, take a look at his "friends" that night. And how did they clear the man who supposedly offered to give him a ride or share a cab. Really cannot pin down the story that involved a USAF member in the pizza joint. I have never seen anything other than they traced the man with the black tee down and after walking out with him they parted company. Nothing about what he did for a living. Someone that knew he was out on the street bouncing around drunk, might have gone looking for him after hours for any number of reasons.
 
It was our eagle eyed sleuth sld286 i think who noticed and took this picture after seeing a jogger run past and into there. Great spot.

Great stuff. I'll dig into the old threads to learn more when my eyes are more open!
 
I had mentioned in the previous thread that drugs in the military wasn't unheard if and I have seen a couple of replies to my post. I just wanted to clear up my experiences. Drugs were, and I imagine, still are used in the military. Particularly in the lower ranks where you have a group of young men who suddenly find themselves bored and with a decent disposable income, they go out together and do what most groups of young men do up and down the country.

Now I am not saying everyone (or even most) do it, and I am not saying Corrie did. But I will say that unless you have personal experience of being a young airmen/soldier/sailor please don't assume you know. Saying you once socialised with people in the RAF ten years ago doesn't mean you understand the situation these young men (and women) are in.

Corries body language to me, at that time, has the look if someone who is trying to go unnoticed, he has a little look around before proceeding round the corner. He could quite easily have been meeting someone to pick something up to head to a party. I think it is foolish to discount anything when there is so little actual evidence. Hence why I think the hours, days and weeks before need to be looked into more. What kind of time was Corrie having at Honnington? Why did he have a dog on base? Why was he on his own so much that night? Alarm bells are ringing for me and I think there is more to Corrie than we are being told. And I totally understand why.
this is an honest post and i do feel that all avenues need explored - it does not make corrie a bad person - there is nothing to indicate he was horrible nasty cruel greedy violent or anything similar. he was a "nice" young man - perhaps over the top in his behaviour but not a bad person. all of the things that could be seen as negative about him are not odd things they are just things that make up who corrie was. its possible his lifestyle has got him into this trouble. people need to talk honestly so that investigators can have a true picture of what corrie really did in his off time. find out the ones who did not like him for his "Lifetstyle" and then maybe you find who did the harm.
 
Could this camera not prove or disprove any f12 theories? Assuming it works (photo from google street view)
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It certainly looks like he couldn't really afford to go out that night but opted to go anyway. His mum said on the Q&A that he was 'skint', a week before pay day etc. If he sat in his car drinking, this would have saved him some £. The near hour long call to his brother, I just wonder if he could have asked him to sub some money as if he did this online banking, Corrie could have then accessed it at an ATM. He obviously kept enough £ for food at the end of the night, possibly choosing the take away over a taxi. I wonder too about why he was asked to leave Flex, only a short time after he was allowed in. Perhaps he was going around asking people to play the rock, paper scissors game with him being a bit of a pest. Were his friends with him in the club? I read somewhere that after Corrie was asked to leave the club, he had a conversation with the doorman outside?

Perhaps he was playing the rock, paper, scissors game FOR drinks and food
 
Does anyone else get the feeling that there is progress being made behind the scenes? Everything has gone eerily quiet in terms of updates from the family etc ? x
i believe that UT is going to be posting an update very soon. i keep thinking the next we might hear is about further searches to rule out the other local shops etc?
 

That's what I was thinking. If you compare with the pic directly below it, you can see how it opens. But it seems this has previously been discussed so wary of rehashing old ground unless new theories have arisen in the meantime!
 
Having lurked and seldom posted from thread one can i just say what an amazing amount of work done by you all on the bin lorry and bin weights etc but I am glad it is finally being discounted I don't think I'll ever look at bin lorries or bins in the same way again :wink:

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That's what I was thinking. If you compare with the pic directly below it, you can see how it opens. But it seems this has previously been discussed so wary of rehashing old ground unless new theories have arisen in the meantime!

I u'stand the caution^

Looking at dcFlag's well-spotted photo just upthread, ( instead of repasting his post, as the threads get very long)
re. Flag's point about the camera - do posters not think the police will already have secured that camera's footage - (even though it's not "council cctv"/is private and we know there were issues about NOT securing private footage before it was wiped.)

I'm hoping this is not the source of the major disgruntlement that Mum expressed.
Rambling a bit now sorry - but just need to add the caveat that I should look at Jessie's posted document on expectations of an MI investigation IF it has been omitted and since wiped.
 
Perhaps he was playing the rock, paper, scissors game FOR drinks and food
that sounds awful but could he also have been up singing in the first bar in order to get drinks? or is that me just on overdrive now, after reading what you just wrote? im sure i know people who have done things like this in the past. never really gave it much thought until this moment
 
I u'stand the caution^

Looking at dcFlag's well-spotted photo just upthread, ( instead of repasting his post, as the threads get very long)
re. Flag's point about the camera - do posters not think the police will already have secured that camera's footage - (even though it's not "council cctv"/is private and we know there were issues about NOT securing private footage before it was wiped.)

I'm hoping this is not the source of the major disgruntlement that Mum expressed.
Rambling a bit now sorry - but just need to add the caveat that I should look at Jessie's posted document on expectations of an MI investigation IF it has been omitted and since wiped.

Well there cannot be a data protection or client confidentiality issue.
Focus 12 do say NO ONE stays there at weekends.
 
My concern is it may be for show or continually wiped so footage unavailable. Perhaps it was overlooked as it doesn't show public areas?
 
Sorry to jump in on a bit of tangent...

I know some of you have brought up excellent scenarios about what might of befell Corrie's phone and himself... However I feel and it's a hunch based on previous cases where young men under the influence of alcohol end up drowning.

I'm sure I read it somewhere that contrary to rumor, he never in the past has walked back to base. If that was true and he was separated from his main source of communication, and possibly other items such as his car keys, would he then take the gamble of walking back to base, walking up cannon Street.

We all know Corrie entered the HS but never appeared to of come out of that area, and somehow by doing so he may of been separated from his phone.

It has been suggested that he can possibly walk around certain areas without being spotted...

He may of left his phone on the bins, or he may of even been robbed of his phone, or even just dropped it... Just because his phone pings in Barton Mills, doesn't necessarily mean that he went in that direction. Only that his phone pinged there.

Of directions, I know the official site mentions Cannon St, and it also mentions Tesco supermarket... Around near the supermarket is the river Lark.

If I was LE or friends and I knew his usual route he may of taken by car, is it reasonable to suggest following that route back on foot perhaps would yield possible areas to search.

Have all these areas been searched thoroughly? , because it's where I'd be looking if I had to conduct any searches.

Sorry if this has already been discussed in previous threads.

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