GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[MillyM]

11:30
Stewart tells the court he had suicidal thoughts

“I felt like harming myself in Broadstairs. I just wanted everything to stop.

“I was on the top of the cliff, I climbed over the railings.

“I thought about Jamie and Oliver and my mum and dad and Helen, and I wanted everything to stop.

“I also went to the railway line in Royston and watched the trains go by. I was thinking ‘I just want everything to stop’.

“I only broke down twice in front of everyone, once in front of Dc Daines and once in front of a nurse.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

 

[KarenUK]

Why does Nick keep hitting him? It's getting a bit tiresome

To be fair, if I met him I'd probably hit him too......

 

[ColourPurple]

Luckily police will be able to get Joe & Nick's finger pints from the jeep ...

 

[Squamous]

Where's Dolly today? I hope she hasn't been practicing suffocation techniques on herself.

 

[Duchy]

Why does Nick keep hitting him? It's getting a bit tiresome

'I took a while to come round, this had hurt me quite a lot'

Big girl's blouse.

 

[Milenalee]

On "sickness pay and benefits"

I think someone testified he got sick pay from his old job. I read it here somewhere, when they were explaining all the accounts etc.


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[ColourPurple]

11:29
'Nick called me regularly on the phone they gave me but I never spoke to Helen'

“That night I had contact on the phone they gave me.

“I had contact every other day, or every day.

“It was always Nick, he wanted to know what the police were doing, what I was doing.

“He always reassured me Helen was OK, but he always threatened me.

“He said I couldn’t speak to Helen until they’d got what they wanted.

“He never let me speak with Helen.

“I never spoke with Helen again after this point.

“I was always asking if Helen was OK, and the same with Boris.

“Contacting the police was still going round in my head, ‘who should I tell, when should I tell them?’ I never did tell anyone [about Nick and Joe].”

So presumably that phone was still on him when arrested then?

 

[Squamous]

Just a reminder of the descriptions of Nick & Joe


Joe
“He was 65 maybe a bit older, tall as me roughly, olive skin, sunken cheeks, short grey hair, dressed in possibly a suit.
“I’d say he wasn’t English, he had a foreign accent of some sort.

[FONT=&quot]Nick
Nick was about 56, he was slightly taller than me, he had black hair, he was a big man, he had tattoos down his neck.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He was white.
He had an accent.”


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I think Nick also had a tattooed neck? He is obviously very menacing, after all.

 

[Alyce]

Kate Bradbrook ‏@katebradbrook 4m4 minutes ago

#helenbailey Ian Stewart said he took Broadstairs router back to Royston to use as wifi extender. Denied more sinister motive

 

[MillyM]

11:35
Stewart said he did not tell psychiatric nurse he saw Helen in Broadstairs

“I didn’t tell Ms Currey that I saw Helen walking down a lane in Broadstairs.

“I really struggled with her. She didn’t like the fact when she arrived that the police were there.

“She didn’t like that I asked her to park on the grass, and that I asked her to take her shoes off. She was muddy and what have you. “She just quizzed me and never gave any solutions.

“I just wanted her gone [from the house] as well to be honest.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

 

[ColourPurple]

So having killed Helen...Nick & Joe, who were at one point miles away in Broadstairs, knowing they could dispose of a body literally anywhere in the country... came back to Royston, to her fiancee's home, where police were searching and put her in the cess pit under the garage.

 

[Milenalee]

12:24
"Helen wanted the will"

Stewart is now talking about Helen’s will.

“She had this thing that if she died I was able to stay in the house and look after the boys.

“Helen wanted the will, it was nice and flexible, but there were two things she didn’t like about it in hindsight.
............
“She knew that Tony Hurley (her financial advisor) could do what he likes. She couldn’t understand why she ended up with this sort of will.

“If Tony died, I still don’t know what would have happened [to her will].
............

“It was her concern that I would be looked after, she couldn’t get it in her head that I didn’t need the money. “At one stage it was 70 per cent left to me and 30 per cent left to John Bailey (Helen’s brother).”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-week-12531416


"Mr Hurley told the court that when Mr Stewart told him that the couple were planning to get married, he didn’t believe him. Mr Hurley apologised to Mr Stewart in the dock as he admitted he now knew that to be true."

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2017-02-01/helen-bailey-murder-trial-continues/

The two things he says helen was worried about is really what he himself was worried about.

IS worries If Helen dies, Tony won't give him much or anything, as 'he can do what he likes' and he knows Tony doubted his intentions to marry her.
IS worries If Tony dies, he's not sure what happens with the will as he's the sole executor.

He has to have the PoA (that he doesn't fully understand) to make sure he gets everything. The slow drugging isn't working, she won't go to the doctors like he's told her to (hopefully doctor will say she's not capable of managing her life) she can't be found dead, dumped anywhere as he thinks Tony might not honour him anything from the Will so in his mind she has to go missing and never found.
This is my speculative theory. For today anyway.

I don't think it's that easy to get power of attorney when the person is quite capable and conscious. She only blacked out, but was still living a normal life. And he never had sole power, the brother would put a stop to it. I think murder was always the final solution. The only sure way he could get full control of the money.


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[Duchy]

“I only broke down twice in front of everyone, once in front of Dc Daines and once in front of a nurse.”

That's 2 people not everyone you dick.

 

[MillyM]

11:36
'I declined a full search of the house because I felt totally violated'

“After that first eight days it was only contact with DC Daines and DC Lockwood, until they requested the specialist search teams.

“I did decline a full search, they said they were looking for a SIM card.

“I felt totally violated, I turned them down point blank.

“They did convince me to let the photographers come in, who went all over the house and gardens and did 360 degree photography.

“They also wanted to take electrical items so I said: ‘Yeah you can go wherever you want.’

“I said there were no electrical items in the garage, that’s not quite true.

“There were some of my old BBC computers and stuff like that.”

 

[Alyce]

11:35
Stewart said he did not tell psychiatric nurse he saw Helen in Broadstairs

“I didn’t tell Ms Currey that I saw Helen walking down a lane in Broadstairs.

“I really struggled with her. She didn’t like the fact when she arrived that the police were there.

“She didn’t like that I asked her to park on the grass, and that I asked her to take her shoes off. She was muddy and what have you. “She just quizzed me and never gave any solutions.

“I just wanted her gone [from the house] as well to be honest.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

Oh nastie nursie - no help at all for Broad Bean

 

[ColourPurple]

11:30
Stewart tells the court he had suicidal thoughts

“I felt like harming myself in Broadstairs. I just wanted everything to stop.

“I was on the top of the cliff, I climbed over the railings.

“I thought about Jamie and Oliver and my mum and dad and Helen, and I wanted everything to stop.

“I also went to the railway line in Royston and watched the trains go by. I was thinking ‘I just want everything to stop’.

“I only broke down twice in front of everyone, once in front of Dc Daines and once in front of a nurse.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

Oh you big brave soldier!

 

[Tauresa]

And as he's emphasising how just how weak and sickly he is to the jury, I hope they're thinking "Ah so that's why you chose to poison her till she was in a deep sleep and couldn't fight back rather than kill her in a more physically demanding way"

Hello to all, I am new .
I would like to say that he was maybe slowly poisoning her hoping that she would have an accident whist driving. As that was taking too long and Helen maybe said something about finishing with him. He killed her.
Why was she keeping a grown man? His absolute lack of self respect in the fact she was keeping him and his two sons. I hated the way he spoke about all "her" possession, being his too!!! They were not married yet. To me, he seems like a narcissist.

 

[Duchy]

“I just wanted her gone [from the house] as well to be honest.”

He's honest again.

 

[LouP1209]

Thank you for the updates,

I'm not a legal person, can the judge not step in and and stop all this time wasting of IS?

 

[MillyM]

11:39
'There was no sinister reason for taking wireless router from Broadstairs'

On May 4, Stewart gave another interview to police.

He is asked about the wireless router in Broadstairs, which ended up back in Royston.

“When Nick was on the phone to me he was always asking what the plans were, I said we had a holiday planned.

“I said I was going to go to Sheffield with Jamie to watch the snooker.

“He told me to go to Broadstairs for a second time. I asked my mum and dad to go that time.

“The first time I was suicidal. I couldn’t see another reason he wanted me down in Broadstairs, other than to make it look like I was looking for Helen.

“The second time I went to Broadstairs and I came back I took the router away. I wanted to use that to replace the BT router or use that as wifi extender in the Royston house. There was no sinister reason to taking the router away.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906