Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #2 *ARREST*

[Officer Dibble]

Just bringing this forward with the more recent timings and information in blue.

Timeline:

11pm ish Libby gets in taxi at Welly
11:29 Taxi drops her near home on Wellesley Av. Neighbours saw her stumbling in street.
11:40 - 11:45 caught on CCTV on bench. Around this time grey beardy man stopped to offer assistance, she declined, police have cleared him
11:49ish PR? car arrives on Haworth Street (per ITV CCTV)
12:04-12:06 ish man smoking (CCTV)
12:08 passenger door opens (CCTV)
12:05 possible sighting Beresford Road (think this was discounted)
12:09 police say Libby had left the bench by now
12:19 the same car (tbc) seen Newland Av (per Sun CCTV)
12:15-12:30ish dark and eerie screams coming from park for 15 minutes
12:30ish man seen running from park
12:30ish scream and banging gate heard from Heathcote St near Libbys house.

Now those last three have confused me, especially the last scream and banging gate. It doesn't add up. Does that mean one set of screams is potentially not Libby?

 

[Atoz]

I don't know, its just dispose just seems a bit insensitive to me. Murdered doesn't. Ignore me, I'm just sensitive about the word - it's making me cringe so I just wondered if her family were reading then it was just too brutal a word? Too graphic? I dunno. No offence. Can you say removed the body instead or something? I'm rambling, I'm tired, I'll stop now.

I understand what you mean. It's a very cold and dispassionate term that implies the victim is akin to rubbish. I don't think anyone using that term is meaning it in that context, but I see where you're coming from. It's a horrible thing to think about, let alone discuss in detail.

 

[cheekychap]

Is there a way to see where ANPR cameras are? Not that it helps us, just wondering how many are in that vicinity.

ANPR Spy Camera Locations in the UK - Google My Maps

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I think ANPR camera locations are secret now. You can spot some on Streetview if you know what they look like. I'll have scan and see if I see any near to Haworth Street.

 

[Ec1995]

Just realised in the itv footage he couldn’t be wearing white nike trainers could he???

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Just watched ITV CCTV again - there is actual a period of about 40 seconds between the passenger door shutting and the car driving off. They fast forwarded a bit, but in fact there was plenty of time to put a postcode in the satnav.

ITV News exclusive: CCTV captures car activity minutes before student Libby Squire was last seen in Hull

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These are the ITV timings allowing for the fact the CCTV clock is a minute slow:

00:03:08 The car outside is apparently unlocked
00:03:18 A man appears
00:03:29 The man sits (smoking?) but his face is obscured
00:03:37 A cyclist rides past
00:06:06 A vehicle also passes
00:06:19 The man locks the car and walks away
00:07:58 It appears someone/something*, is placed inside the car
00:08:52 The car is driven away

*We did a quick poll to see whether we thought the someone/something was an actual person or an object put in the car. See page 15 for that.

 

[MancGuy Uk]

I don't know, its just dispose just seems a bit insensitive to me. Murdered doesn't. Ignore me, I'm just sensitive about the word - it's making me cringe so I just wondered if her family were reading then it was just too brutal a word? Too graphic? I dunno. No offence. Can you say removed the body instead or something? I'm rambling, I'm tired, I'll stop now.

I have removed it - I would advice her family not to be looking at this site because a lot of theories might upset them right now no worries

 

[cherryautumn]

I think we need to remember that The Sun states that a similar car is seen on Newland Avenue.. not necessarily the same one as the one parked in Haworth, at least that's the way I'm reading it although it could just be the Sun covering their own arses as they probably haven't had it confirmed by police that it could be the same car.

Could this possibly be more than one person involved if this is a different car though? The police may have info they haven't released about this potential second car? Or just the Sun trying to jump the gun? What do you think?

"Separate film seen by The Sun shows a similar car driving up a nearby street minutes later."

"A second film, obtained by The Sun from a shopkeeper, shows a similar car being driven along Newland Avenue, half a mile away, 10 minutes later, at 12.19am.

It shows a police car patrolling the same road 60 seconds before."

"Detectives will want to investigate whether the car in the footage is the Vauxhall Astra seized from suspect Relowicz."

CCTV footage emerges of last sighting of missing Libby Squire 'in car with man'

 

[Foxymona]

Hi all- just out of work at midnight and 37 new pages- would someone be as kind as to sum up what everyone has thought as I'll be trying to catch up for HOURS

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Now those last three have confused me, especially the last scream and banging gate. It doesn't add up. Does that mean one set of screams is potentially not Libby?

Yes, I'd say it's unlikely that both sets of screams were Libby. Of course in both reports we only have estimated times so we can't rule anything out, but I think I'm swaying towards the park screams being more relevant.

 

[MancGuy Uk]

Just watched ITV CCTV again - there is actual a period of about 40 seconds between the passenger door shutting and the car driving off. They fast forwarded a bit, but in fact there was plenty of time to put a postcode in the satnav.

ITV News exclusive: CCTV captures car activity minutes before student Libby Squire was last seen in Hull

These are the ITV timings allowing for the fact the CCTV clock is a minute slow:

00:03:08 The car outside is apparently unlocked
00:03:18 A man appears
00:03:29 The man sits (smoking?) but his face is obscured
00:03:37 A cyclist rides past
00:06:06 A vehicle also passes
00:06:19 The man locks the car and walks away
00:07:58 It appears someone/something, is placed inside the car
00:08:52 The car is driven away

Basically it could have taken only under 4 minutes for her to except his offer of a lift and get into the car? If that what happen

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Just watched ITV CCTV again - there is actual a period of about 40 seconds between the passenger door shutting and the car driving off. They fast forwarded a bit, but in fact there was plenty of time to put a postcode in the satnav.

ITV News exclusive: CCTV captures car activity minutes before student Libby Squire was last seen in Hull

These are the ITV timings allowing for the fact the CCTV clock is a minute slow:

00:03:08 The car outside is apparently unlocked
00:03:18 A man appears
00:03:29 The man sits (smoking?) but his face is obscured
00:03:37 A cyclist rides past
00:06:06 A vehicle also passes
00:06:19 The man locks the car and walks away
00:07:58 It appears someone/something, is placed inside the car
00:08:52 The car is driven away

This is really clear. It's not long is it, between 00:06:19 and the next image? Just under two minutes. He would have had to persuade her prior to this I would think? Or the alternative, he quickly picks her up and brings her to the car?

 

[eucalyptuz]

Hull city council has a searchable map where you can locate all fixed CCTV run by the city. I posted the map of the immediate area in thread one but here is another with a broader view:
red = bench/ITV footage
orange = cctv from the Sun showing Newland Ave
purple = PR's house
From My Hull

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Hi all- just out of work at midnight and 37 new pages- would someone be as kind as to sum up what everyone has thought as I'll be trying to catch up for HOURS

There are two new pieces of CCTV footage, the main one shows what we think might be Libby getting into PR's car. Most discussion today has been about that. Have a look at the footage here:

ITV News exclusive: CCTV captures car activity minutes before student Libby Squire was last seen in Hull

In other news:

• Some Nike trainers were found in the park this morning but we think Libby was wearing Vans.
• The police have been searching the park most of the day, at one point there were dozens of them.
• The person who heard all the screaming also saw a man running from the scene wearing clothing not suitable for the weather.
• The CCTV above seems to show the man wearing shorts.

Hope that helps a bit, there's probably not much point reading the whole thread but do look at the CCTV and also catch up on the HullDailyMail page. Good luck!!

 

[Atoz]

Going back to what someone else mentioned. The car that drives past in the CCTV footage. It almost seems too much of a coincidence that it happens within minutes of this all happening. There's only room for two, or perhaps four cars to be parked behind this vehicle. Traffic would be sparse at that time of night, let alone a car setting off from a cul-de-sac at that exact time. Just seems odd.

 

[Winterbells]

Going back to what someone else mentioned. The car that drives past in the CCTV footage. It almost seems too much of a coincidence that it happens within minutes of this all happening. There's only room for two, or perhaps four cars to be parked behind this vehicle. Traffic would be sparse at that time of night, let alone a car setting off from a cul-de-sac at that exact time. Just seems odd.

And it's double yellow lines, I think.

 

[LadyL]

those videos are terrible ... I don't know how anyone can see much of anything on them

 

[Sera]

Hull city council has a searchable map where you can locate all fixed CCTV run by the city. I posted the map of the immediate area in thread one but here is another with a broader view:
red = bench/ITV footage
orange = cctv from the Sun showing Newland Ave
purple = PR's house
From My Hull
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Interesting that since the Beverley end of the street the car is parked on is a dead end, if suspect turned either left OR right to get off that street, there's a camera either way...

 

[Officer Dibble]

Just realised in the itv footage he couldn’t be wearing white nike trainers could he???

He's wearing shoes and long socks and shorts. In the still shot at the beginning (iirc) his left foot is bent over at the ankle. I don't know if this would help someone with good eyesight

 

[cherryautumn]

I didn't realise the footage of the car travelling past 'newland bedding centre' was so close to PR's house.. Yes, it does seem to be too much of a coincidence not to be linked.
I want to know what info the Sun has to make a point of showing this CCTV though, it's 00:19 but nowhere near the oak playing fields and where screams were heard etc..
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