Right?! Surely you’d be more concerned about and challenge the adult, not the child.Rsbm
A 39 year old man we are talking about ….. and a 5 year old child.
Right?! Surely you’d be more concerned about and challenge the adult, not the child.Rsbm
A 39 year old man we are talking about ….. and a 5 year old child.
You can try, there is a total exemption for FOI requests in Court proceedings. There's a form here to fill in and it'll cost.
Regarding the 'proud' comment ...
It's quite possible that welsh dialect plays a part ... I've notice quite a few words used already 'scram' (on his lip?) Noticed by a nurse - scram is Welsh for a scratch (like from a cat or nails, a sharp scratch but a superficial surface injury) and Cwtch which is Welsh for cuddle...
The Welsh men especially aren't known for their metrosexuality and perhaps when between 2 males it would be said that you're proud of rather than love your male relatives or friends.
Just something to bear in mind
I think it meant there was no food in JC's house.They had just come back from holiday and were isolating at AW's home before being taken to JC's houseFor a house with three children in it, why is there no food? Or sorry I should say little food. Also wasn’t AW seen buying *advertiser censored* and alcohol shortly before this?
Seems it was the ex husband squaddie who lived in the barracks.I thought it was the interim partner/husband, the squaddie who I hadn’t previously been aware of.
As to Logan seeming to be happy on his way to school----I worked in the school system for many years. Children from troubled homes would often seem very happy when they were in school. It was their safe space.13:39Jason Evans
Cross examination
The neighbour is now being cross-examined by David Elias QC for Cole.
In response to questions from the barrister, the witness says he would hear the defendants shouting when he was in his garden, and Williamson and Cole were in their garden.
The witness also confirms that he would sometimes see Logan going to school in the mornings, and that in his police statement he had said that Logan always seemed happy.
That concludes this morning’s evidence.
Logan Mwangi's mum was 'slightly on the strict side' jury told - live updates
It sounds to me like they were putting on a theatre production for the neighbours. " The backdoor is wide open. He has got no socks on. He has got no shoes on."...blah blah blah.....she is screaming that out for the neighbours to hear, after the child has already been dumped in the creek.15:45Jason Evans
'I want my son'
Miss Heath says she then heard Williamson shouting out Logan’s name a number of times, and shouting: "I want my son. The backdoor is wide open. He has got no socks on. He has got no shoes on."
She says she left for work around 7.20am and saw a male outside the flats who told her: "All I am trying to do is calm the situation down".
Logan Mwangi's mum was 'slightly on the strict side' jury told - live updates
It sounds to me like they were putting on a theatre production for the neighbours. " The backdoor is wide open. He has got no socks on. He has got no shoes on."...blah blah blah.....she is screaming that out for the neighbours to hear, after the child has already been dumped in the creek.![]()
RSBM. I'd been wondering if this earlier evidence meant what I thought it did.the youth defendant had a "desire for violence" and was always "sparring" with himself and with anyone who came to the house "as if to prove he was bigger and better" than anyone else.
BBM.When questioned about the youth’s actions by Peter Rouch QC, who is defending Williamson, Mr O’Brien said the youth was “sizing him up”.
Oh no! What a monster kid11:42Jason Evans
Youth had 'desire for violence'
The first evidence being put before the jury today relates to the youth defendant - as the youngster cannot be named due to his age, our reporting of this evidence will necessarily be limited.
The court is hearing a written statement from a foster mother who cared for the teenager for a period of time. In the statement, which is being read to the court by prosecution barrister Caroline Rees QC, she says the youth defendant had a "desire for violence" and was always "sparring" with himself and with anyone who came to the house "as if to prove he was bigger and better" than anyone else.
She said on one occasion he grabbed the family dog - which had an injured pelvis - by the back legs and picked it up, and on another occasion he was seen squirting deodorant into the dog’s eyes.
BIB One - as suspected, there was foster care
BIB Two - what a delightful child ( not )
Because placements need time to settle, moving children all the time creates it own set of problems.I do not understand why the foster family kept him for so long. The moment he hurt the dog or threatened violence ,social services should have removed him.