Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #3

[daisychain01]

The police probably did consider foul play from the get-go hence making the national news so early on.

But you are right about the failure to close off possible crime scenes.

Somebody on this thread mentioned that the news reporter sat on the bench, does that imply that they're not considering it as evidence?

 

[Lilly b]

Looking at the update on the daily mail it is suggested she arrived at the bench at 8:56. She was then spotted by a witness further east at 9:10.
To me this suggests she was either returning to the car and arrived at the gate nearer 9:30 or someone placed her items on the bench to conceal the fact she had actually travelled further east.

They are referencing her previous Strava maps so made me wonder if she owned a smart watch or other tracking device? Perhaps her phone would show the location and route Prior to being placed on the bench. If there was something sinister I cant understand why they didn’t destroy the phone or throw it into the river.

GPS and phone signals may provide info from her phone?

 

[Officer Dibble]

I strongly feel she never reached the area where the phone and dog were found.

MOO

There was a timeline on the previous thread no. 2, not sure if it was by @dotr or not (apologies if not). It mentioned witness sightings in an upper and a lower field. Is there a map showing the upper and lower field and the bench location? EDITED to add I've had many replies showing the map with these things on. Thank you.

 

[Firstsnow4]

I think the dogs mingled with the first witness and she was just seen by the second witness although they are not sure on the exact timings for the 2nd.

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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The wording about the second witness does seem a bit vague (about trying to establish exact time)….could be an unreliable witness,
or something nefarious or the person just wasn’t sure of the time when they spoke to police. JMO.

 

[Mo100]

I was wondering if she had fallen in, wouldn't they have found a shoe, hat, scarf etc by now?

Here is a video of the Sky News interview with the family today:

Nicola Bulley: Family of missing dog walker say her 'children need her home' and they are 'stuck in a nightmare'

The 45-year-old's father Ernie told Sky News: "There's two young children there waiting for their mummy to come back."

news.sky.com

 

[Edinlass]

Her not having her phone is harder to locate her IF she is out of the area now. None of the normal pings etc we usually get from missing persons.

 

[kittythehare]

There was a timeline on the previous thread no. 2, not sure if it was by @dotr or not (apologies if not). It mentioned witness sightings in an upper and a lower field. Is there a map showing the upper and lower field and the bench location?

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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[Officer Dibble]

At least that's a timeline

Thank you. I wanted a map with upper and lower field on it. I wish the bench was on that map too. JMO MOO

 

[dotr]

VIDEO at link shows the area well..
ETA

Timeline of Nicola Bulley’s mysterious disappearance

Police have released a timeline of Nicola Bulley’s last known movements

www.independent.co.uk

''The last known movements of missing dog walker Nicola Bulley have been revealed by police.

Nicola Bulley, 45, a mortgage advisor, was last seen on Friday morning at around 9.20am while walking her dog alongside the River Wyre in St Michael’s on Wyre, Lancashire.

She had just dropped off two her daughters, aged six and nine, at the local school in the village.


Ms Bulley’s phone was found, apparently still engaged on a work call, on a park bench nearby, along with the harness and lead for her dog, Willow, a springer spaniel.''

Timeline of Nicola Bulley’s last known movements​

8.43am – Nicola walked along the path by the River Wyre, having dropped her children off at school

8:50am (approximately) - A dog-walker – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her walking around the lower field with her dog. Their two dogs interacted briefly before the witness left the field via the river path

8.53am – She sent an email to her boss

9.01am – She logged into a Teams call

9.10am (approximately) – A witness – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her on the upper field walking her dog, Willow. Work is ongoing today to establish exactly what time this was.

9.30am – The Teams call ended but Nicola stayed logged on

9.35am (approximately) – Nicola’s mobile phone and Willow were found at a bench by the river by another dog-walker.

(Datawrapper/The Independent)
Since her disappearance, Lancashire Constabulary has carried out a “thorough” search of the area, including the river.

 

[Danny Dnipro]

There was a timeline on the previous thread no. 2, not sure if it was by @dotr or not (apologies if not). It mentioned witness sightings in an upper and a lower field. Is there a map showing the upper and lower field and the bench location?

It's on Lancashire Police website

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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[Officer Dibble]

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

The latest news and information for Lancashire Constabulary

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thank you Kitty. I've just seen one. I'm playing catch up with so many posts. Thanks again.

 

[Firstsnow4]

Thank you. I wanted a map with upper and lower field on it. I wish the bench was on that map too. JMO MOO

It’s here Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

 

[Officer Dibble]

It's on Lancashire Police website

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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Thank you Danny

 

[Occhiali_Neri]

Yes I guess if she was threatened with a weapon JMO.

x

I’ve been lurking here. Some interesting theories but this is the one I agree with. The most obvious scenario is that she somehow ended up in the water and could not get out and she has sadly drowned. I hope they recover her body quickly but it may take weeks or months for it to reappear. I’d love for her to suddenly return home but I’m afraid this now seems unlikely. My thoughts go out to her family and friends.

Sadly this sounds all too plausible. Playing near the water with Willow while half listening into the Teams call on her AirPods, phone just sitting on the bench.

 

[Danny Dnipro]

9.10am (approximately) – A witness – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her on the upper field walking her dog, Willow. Work is ongoing today to establish exactly what time this was.
.

(Datawrapper/The Independent)
Since her disappearance, Lancashire Constabulary has carried out a “thorough” search of the area, including the river.

LE marked the 09:10 sighting further East interestingly.

 

[todders]

There was a timeline on the previous thread no. 2, not sure if it was by @dotr or not (apologies if not). It mentioned witness sightings in an upper and a lower field. Is there a map showing the upper and lower field and the bench location?

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

Timelines are on the link above for the upper and lower fields

 

[Firstsnow4]

It’s here Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

Actually I have just realised looking at that link that the first witness is classed as a ‘dog walker’ and the second is classed as a ‘witness’ - the second witness is also the one where they are unsure of times. Is that significant at all or am I reading too much into it? Was second witness without a dog and is this significant? JMO.

 

[Villa1]

However, Lancashire police have specifically stated they have no evidence of third-party involvement/crime. Would they tell what would then be an outright lie?

Having 'no evidence' is likely the truth.
But that does not mean that the police do not now suspect third party involvement or suspect that a crime has been committed.

What has baffled a few of us on here has been the police's reluctance to consider the possibility of foul play from the outset. Failure to initially 'rope off' a potential crime scene seemed odd.

Surely the longer it goes on and she is still missing they must be looking at other options . IMO you wouldn't just have one and only one line of enquiry . Can only think they don't want to show thier hand and let everyone know what they have got . They hold things back as they would want someone to slip up and give them something that hasn't been released to the public . That is my pennies worth on why we have no real info to get to grips with and of course it's all MOO and could be completely wrong ! X

 

[dotr]

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

Timelines are on the link above for the upper and lower fields

From link, ty!


''We can now confirm the following timings from the morning Nicola was last seen:

8.43am – Nicola walked along the path by the River Wyre, having dropped her children off at school

8:50am (approximately) - A dog-walker – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her walking around the lower field with her dog. Their two dogs interacted briefly before the witness left the field via the river path

8.53am – She sent an email to her boss

9.01am – She logged into a Teams call

9.10am (approximately) – A witness – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her on the upper field walking her dog, Willow. Work is ongoing today to establish exactly what time this was.

9.30am – The Teams call ended but Nicola stayed logged on

9.35am (approximately) – Nicola’s mobile phone and Willow were found at a bench by the river by another dog-walker.''

 

[Officer Dibble]

it looks quite lonely, not sure I'd like to be that far away from people. The person who filmed this once off the road didn't encounter one single other person.

Interesting that the final path is a dead end to that kissing gate. JMO