I think that’s a reasonable security feature but then why no door swipe data or a log that the door was opened a touch before 9? Or human memory if the buzzer when operated isn’t recorded?
You are right that's important we understand the baby's clinical circumstances in the lead up to each of the alleged attacks but the baby's history will be accounted for in the notes and in the intelligence analysis. The chart focuses on the dates of assumed foul play, the other intelligence focuses on the finer detail surrounding the alleged events.
Actually the nurses from the shift prior were included in the chart for the second alleged event.
The amount of people the nurses let in every shift I doubt most could remember who they buzzed in last week never mind 6-7 years ago, especially remembering the exact time they let them in. It’s something you’d do while you’re halfway through another task, so it’s a quick verification that they’re the parents, buzz in, continue with what you were doing. IMO.
All the unexpected events followed her shift patterns.
If she was let in through the intercom buzzer system then there wouldn’t be a record I don’t think. I doubt anyone could remember the exact time they opened a door for someone, whether it was last week or last year. Baby E’s mum visited a few times that evening (I think it’s 3) so it wouldn’t be reliable to ask the nurse who let her in for the time as she could be remembering the 8, 9 or 10pm visit MOO.
Are we sure the nurses weren’t interviewed closer to the time? I’m almost sure they would otherwise there would be a question of how reliable the testimony when it comes to personal accounts is. This many years is a long time indeed to be remembering with any accuracy those quite triviallitt details.
This happened in 2015. Police were called in by the hospital in 2017.
I think what I’m trying to get at is whether it was a week, month or year since the nurse buzzed her in, she’s not going to remember the exact time of completing such a mundane insignificant task as buzzing someone in. And even if you believe the defense version of events, baby E’s mum visited at the very least twice that night, it would be very difficult for the person who let her in to the unit to know with much certainty whether it was the 8, 9 or 10pm visit she recalls buzzing her in for.
just adding link to testimony, from the shift prior
If that’s true then they’re adding nurses on who weren’t actually on the relevant shift, specifically so it doesn’t ‘break up’ the pattern of LL’s constant presence?
It's actually working in LL's favour, increasing the chances for other staff to be on duty as much as LL was at the times of these events. The second event happened before handover from night to day staff.
I think they only record when they were opened by a member of staff using their swipe card. If a nurse used their swipe card around 9pm there’s no way of knowing whether she was letting in baby E’s mum or another parent at that time. (I’m assuming this is how it works but don’t quote me on it)
"Entry to the neonatal unit was controlled through locked doors. One from the public entrance side, the other from the maternity/labour side.
No one knew about the bleeding event at 9pm until the mum was interviewed by police. It wasn't in the nursing records. Even Dr Evans didn't know about it when he did his first report. So no one would have been questioned about any of that until after the mother gave her statement to police.
She wasn’t working the night shift of the 14th, she worked the day shifts of the 14th and 15th, neither of which appear on this chart. She wasn’t working the night of the 14th, where the baby suffered several desaturations, and for some reason she’s listed on this chart as working that shift, presumably because she turned up to have a chat with JJK prior to handover.
