One might surmise that this is her very first sheet from the first shift she ever did as a student?10:39am
Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."
Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.
Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".
Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.
Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.
Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.
Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."
Letby: "It's the original?"
Mr Johnson: "Yes."
Letby: "Ok."
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Maybe. Clearly meant a lot to her whatever it was. How does this fit in with her 'I accidentally took notes home and never thought about them or looked at them' argument though?One might surmise that this is her very first sheet from the first shift she ever did as a student?
That would be weird but I suppose somebody might want to keep just that one sheet. As long as it's just that and not something like the handover sheet from the first death she ever witnessed.One might surmise that this is her very first sheet from the first shift she ever did as a student?
That would be weird but I suppose somebody might want to keep just that one sheet. As long as it's just that and not something like the handover sheet from the first death she ever witnessed.
JMO
Like I was saying the other day. I think there is something deeper, psychologically, going on with her. She kept the very first handover sheet she was ever given and I think we can assume she wasn't murdering or otherwise harming babies right from her first day.Maybe. Clearly meant a lot to her whatever it was. How does this fit in with her 'I accidentally took notes home and never thought about them or looked at them' argument though?
Ok that's confirmed then. So opens up the angle that maybe she liked to keep handover sheets from "significant" datesMr Johnson is focusing his questioning on the 250 plus handover sheets that were found in Ms Letby's home when police searched. One sheet is from 1 June 2010. Mr Johnson says this dates to Ms Letby's first day on the neonatal unit (as part of a student placement)
WTF? Why would you think that was a good explanation. And what was the date of the sheet in relation to their deaths?Mr Johnson is now asking Ms Letby about an exchange she had with her defence lawyer Ben Myers KC regarding a handover sheet for the triplet brothers Child O and P (who Ms Letby is alleged to have murdered on successive days in June 2016)
Ms Letby told her defence lawyer she took a sheet home as she needed to write up medications the next day. Mr Johnson has pulled up the sheet, on it is written 'caffeine' for Child P - no other medications are on the sheet
Mr Johnson says 'your evidence yesterday was you took that home because it had caffeine written on it and brought it in next day to help remind you of caffeine', Ms Letby says she did not say this. She says she also took a paper towel with medicines on it home
I think it's really weird to take a medical document belonging to someone else and put it in a keepsake box with flowers on like a love letter (and even that when you're not a teenager!).
Yet there were handover sheets IN the shredder box 10:55am
Mr Johnson says Letby took the sheet for June 23, 2016 home as it had notes of drugs for Child O and Child P.
Letby said there was documentation on there, but cannot be sure what details were on it.
Letby said she took the note home deliberately to bring it back the following day for finishing up writing of medications.
A copy of the handover sheet is circulated to the jury and Letby. Mr Johnson says he is interested in the back, on the medical notes.
Letby describes what is on the note - medication for Child P - caffeine. Nothing was written for Child O. No medications were noted for a third child.
Letby said she had taken it back with the paper towel, which had further details.
Letby is asked when the Morrisons work bag was placed under her bed. Letby says she cannot recall the Ibiza bag became her new bag after her trip to Ibiza around June 2016.
Letby is asked how the handover sheets ended up in her bag. She says after emptying her pockets, the sheets would end up in her work bag.
Nicholas Johnson: "You're ferrying work sheets to and from work."
Letby: "I can't say definitively."
NJ: "They must have been...why put them in that bag at all?"
LL: "I can't recall."
NJ: "Can't or won't?"
LL: "They were just bits of paper to me."
Letby says she accepts pieces of paper - "it's the paper I accumulate, not the content."
Letby says she has difficulty throwing things away.
NJ: "Is that why you bought a shredder?"
LL: "I bought a shredder for certain documents when I bought the house...predominantly bank statements."
NJ: "Why not the handover sheets?"
LL: "I wasn't aware I had them."
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She wasn't aware she had them? She struggling10:55am
Mr Johnson says Letby took the sheet for June 23, 2016 home as it had notes of drugs for Child O and Child P.
Letby said there was documentation on there, but cannot be sure what details were on it.
Letby said she took the note home deliberately to bring it back the following day for finishing up writing of medications.
A copy of the handover sheet is circulated to the jury and Letby. Mr Johnson says he is interested in the back, on the medical notes.
Letby describes what is on the note - medication for Child P - caffeine. Nothing was written for Child O. No medications were noted for a third child.
Letby said she had taken it back with the paper towel, which had further details.
Letby is asked when the Morrisons work bag was placed under her bed. Letby says she cannot recall the Ibiza bag became her new bag after her trip to Ibiza around June 2016.
Letby is asked how the handover sheets ended up in her bag. She says after emptying her pockets, the sheets would end up in her work bag.
Nicholas Johnson: "You're ferrying work sheets to and from work."
Letby: "I can't say definitively."
NJ: "They must have been...why put them in that bag at all?"
LL: "I can't recall."
NJ: "Can't or won't?"
LL: "They were just bits of paper to me."
Letby says she accepts pieces of paper - "it's the paper I accumulate, not the content."
Letby says she has difficulty throwing things away.
NJ: "Is that why you bought a shredder?"
LL: "I bought a shredder for certain documents when I bought the house...predominantly bank statements."
NJ: "Why not the handover sheets?"
LL: "I wasn't aware I had them."
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But it said KEEP in big capital letters on the boxYet there were handover sheets IN the shredder box ![]()
It was the box the shredder came in - not the collection box part of said shredder.Yet there were handover sheets IN the shredder box ![]()
Maybe. But at the least it shows that:Like I was saying the other day. I think there is something deeper, psychologically, going on with her. She kept the very first handover sheet she was ever given and I think we can assume she wasn't murdering or otherwise harming babies right from her first day.
IMO, she either doesn't know why she does this or can't face up to whatever condition is making her do it. Her answers are just like someone I know who has a similar issue and gives ridiculous answers to very straightforward questions on a certain subject.
Like I was saying the other day. I think there is something deeper, psychologically, going on with her. She kept the very first handover sheet she was ever given and I think we can assume she wasn't murdering or otherwise harming babies right from her first day.
IMO, she either doesn't know why she does this or can't face up to whatever condition is making her do it. Her answers are just like someone I know who has a similar issue and gives ridiculous answers to very straightforward questions on a certain subject.