UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999 - 2002

[CoverMeCagney]

At 2.5m x 2.5m (approx 8 ft square) that bathroom is not big enough to have had a “bathtub in the middle of the room”. As someone else said, the other bathroom is half the size. Maybe the bath was in one of the bedrooms? Maybe it’s a false memory.

 

[Chelly]

If The Crown eventually removes all of Andrew's titles, will his name be Andrew Mountatten-Windsor? Or will surname be removed as well and he will become simply "Andrew"? (not joking)

 

[tedtink]

If The Crown eventually removes all of Andrew's titles, will his name be Andrew Mountatten-Windsor? Or will surname be removed as well and he will become simply "Andrew"? (not joking)

I believe it can't be done unless there is an act of Parliament. This article explains it well, but yeah, if it did happen, he'd be AMW like you said.

Prince Andrew titles hard to remove due to constitutional hurdle Queen must abide by

 

[UK Girl]

Is that definetly the bathroom she alleges it happened in?

 

[Forest_Wood]

That's not how I interpret it. Nor is it how Merriam Webster defines it:

Synonyms of having sex to engage in sexual intercourse

• They decided they wouldn't have sex until they were both ready.

Synonyms for having sex

• breeding,
• copulating,
• mating,
• sleeping

From her quoted book, they allegedly had foreplay in the tub and then intercourse in bed. The DM makes this crudely obvious with The explosive conclusion to this encounter took place in her 'bedchamber', she said.

Yet in DM's 2nd article, the rag repeatedly states that VRG claims to 'have had sex' (intercourse, not just foreplay) with PA in the tub:

Inside the house where Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts had 'sex in the bath' ...

alleged she had sex with the duke in a bath...

Maxwell who instructed two of her lawyers to lay in the bath to prove that it was too small for two people to have sex...

where Virginia Roberts alleges that she had sex with Prince Andrew in the bath...

That is not what VRG is alleging.

edit: whole thing.

I’ve always thought of a sex act as being all of the above plus more. It will be interesting to see how the courts define it.
Human sexual activity - Wikipedia

 

[IQuestion]

That's not how I interpret it. Nor is it how Merriam Webster defines it:

Synonyms of having sex to engage in sexual intercourse

• They decided they wouldn't have sex until they were both ready.

Synonyms for having sex

• breeding,
• copulating,
• mating,
• sleeping

From her quoted book, they allegedly had foreplay in the tub and then intercourse in bed. The DM makes this crudely obvious with The explosive conclusion to this encounter took place in her 'bedchamber', she said.

Yet in DM's 2nd article, the rag repeatedly states that VRG claims to 'have had sex' (intercourse, not just foreplay) with PA in the tub:

Inside the house where Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts had 'sex in the bath' ...

alleged she had sex with the duke in a bath...

Maxwell who instructed two of her lawyers to lay in the bath to prove that it was too small for two people to have sex...

where Virginia Roberts alleges that she had sex with Prince Andrew in the bath...

That is not what VRG is alleging.

edit: whole thing.

I am still laughing out loud at the visual of two "suited attorneys" actually climbing into a bathtub in front of a juror filled courtroom to prove this point! Being a "purist" on reenactments, I would insist they disrobe, be the same physical size and weight, and add a bucket of water-filled dry ice to simulate the steam (Oh please tell me the courtroom will have as many cameras as JE is said to have had in his house.)
I believe the "where" is not the issue....the "who" is the issue.

 

[tedtink]

VG's memoir may have been posted here before. Here it is.........start at p39 for PA

DocumentCloud

 

[UK Girl]

VG's memoir may have been posted here before. Here it is.........start at p39 for PA

DocumentCloud

Is it available on Kindle at all do you know? as its kinda painful for me to read on there

 

[tedtink]

Is it available on Kindle at all do you know? as its kinda painful for me to read on there

If you click on 'original document PDF' on the right hand side you can then zoom in to read it

 

[Forest_Wood]

Is it available on Kindle at all do you know? as its kinda painful for me to read on there

You can also download the PDF version and that way you can bookmark it as you go along so you can read it at your leisure.

 

[Dotta]

EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: More misery for Prince Andrew as his firm plunges into a £200,000 debt | Daily Mail Online

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Prince Andrew's Twitter account deleted, days after royal loses military titles and charities - CNN

 

[Dotta]

The Avalanche has started....

People of York should get say in whether Prince Andrew is stripped of title, local MP says | Daily Mail Online

 

[Dotta]

Continuation of Teddy Bears Epic


I had to line up Prince Andrew's 72 teddy bears in size order… it was no picnic

Spoilt Andrew made me run upstairs to shut curtains as he sat next to them

 

[tayaway]

SBM

Spoilt Andrew made me run upstairs to shut curtains as he sat next to them

She was 21 when she started work at Buckingham Palace in January 1996. Within six months she got the job “nobody wanted” — being maid to Andrew shortly after his divorce from Sarah Ferguson.

...Andrew had set up home on the “nursery floor” where he, Prince Charles, Edward and Anne had played as children.

...Andrew currently lives with his former wife Fergie at Royal Lodge in Windsor close to the Castle.

But he is now facing calls to be evicted after he quit royal duty in 2019 amid links to dead paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

So if PA gets evicted from Royal Lodge, does this mean that he and his teddies will once more have to move back to the 'nursery floor' at Buckingham Palace?

 

[UK Girl]

She was 21 when she started work at Buckingham Palace in January 1996. Within six months she got the job “nobody wanted” — being maid to Andrew shortly after his divorce from Sarah Ferguson.

...Andrew had set up home on the “nursery floor” where he, Prince Charles, Edward and Anne had played as children.

...Andrew currently lives with his former wife Fergie at Royal Lodge in Windsor close to the Castle.

But he is now facing calls to be evicted after he quit royal duty in 2019 amid links to dead paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

So if PA gets evicted from Royal Lodge, does this mean that he and his teddies will once more have to move back to the 'nursery floor' at Buckingham Palace?

To be honest its most unlikely he will be evicted and IMO nor should he be until the court case at least

As for the maid so she only worked there a year...and probably got more for this article than she did working there a year. Oh well.

 

[Dotta]

To be honest its most unlikely he will be evicted and IMO nor should he be until the court case at least

As for the maid so she only worked there a year...and probably got more for this article than she did working there a year. Oh well.

So...
The MORAL is:

Treat others as you want to be treated yourself!

 

[tayaway]

To be honest its most unlikely he will be evicted and IMO nor should he be until the court case at least

As for the maid so she only worked there a year...and probably got more for this article than she did working there a year. Oh well.

Who knows, but seriously, PA did actually move back to his childhood nursery after he and Fergie split. I don't think you can spin that one away.

Even if the servant was only looking to make a buck and lied about temper tantrum PA and his entourage of teddies, she is far from the first staff member to comment on what a boorish spoiled man baby PA is behind the scenes. Even PA's colleagues find him rude. Countless incidents of PA being a to staff and colleagues have been floating around out there for decades. How can royal apologists dismiss it all?

So...
The MORAL is:

Treat others as you want to be treated yourself!

Not if you're royalty and consider yourself above everyone else.

 

[Dotta]

Not if you're royalty and consider yourself above everyone else.

Quite the contrary - being Royal obliges to exemplary behaviour.

 

[UK Girl]

Who knows, but seriously, PA did actually move back to his childhood nursery after he and Fergie split. I don't think you can spin that one away.

Even if the servant was only looking to make a buck and lied about temper tantrum PA and his entourage of teddies, she is far from the first staff member to comment on what a boorish spoiled man baby PA is behind the scenes. Even PA's colleagues find him rude. Countless incidents of PA being a *** to staff and colleagues have been floating around out there for decades. How can royal apologists dismiss it all?



Not if you're royalty and consider yourself above everyone else.

a quick buck? she likely would have gotten thousands for that story...and yes i agree...i think he is rude..and arrogant I have said that before. I am not a Royal apologist lol...just hate people selling stories to the tabloids especially when they strew it in the favour they want it to be seen...and actually i am not even talking about this case when i say that.