UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs sought*

[ChatteringBirds]

IMO people don't panic and flee when there is an accident, though. They still call emergency services, hoping against hope.

 

[Skigh]

I’m extremely perplexed by the fact that there will be more tests needed to determine COD. Perhaps multiple blows/injuries and cut/stab wounds and/or strangulation and they have to narrow it down to which was the fatal cause…?

The way it was worded sounded to me that with more tests they would be able to give a cause of death. The phrase which I have heard used in other cases is that the results were inconclusive and more tests are needed.

I wonder, as it will be a tricky case needing extradition ,whether they are being extra cautious and having a second independent pm or are bringing in a pathologist who has a particular specialism in some area of forensic examinations.

 

[VioletLilac]

What does LE stand for in this context please?

 

[Dotta]

What does LE stand for in this context please?

Law Enforcement?

 

[Skigh]

What does LE stand for in this context please?

People use LE to stand for Law Enforcement, which is a term I learnt from following American cases. In the U.K we usually just say police.

 

[VioletLilac]

Thank you

 

[QB2022]

Dad who 'fled UK' after girl, 10, was found dead had 'hideout' raided her father is definitely one then

 

[Inthedetails]

Dbm

 

[SusanDonim]

Im surprised that with large Pakistani community living in the UK, there is no Extradiction Treaty between two countries.

I think there is, but only for convicted criminals.

 

[Skigh]

From the Mail article linked above:



A spokesman for Chotala Police Station in Jhelum, which is co-ordinating the manhunt confirmed: 'We have been asked by the senior officers to arrest Urfan Sharif who recently came from England. The FIA (Federal Investigation Agency) has sent a draft to district police officer to arrest him immediately.

'We are on it and hopefully he would be behind the bars soon.'

Another official added: 'We are actively looking for Sharif and are confident that we will find him. We believe he is in the Jhelum or Mirpur area and have raided a number of properties. It is only a matter of time before we find him.'

 

[Skigh]

Interesting that he did not mention arresting the other 2 adults who fled the country.

 

[Beth11311]

I couldn’t love MORE the fact that the police in Pakistan per those posts above are looking for him quite actively and that it seems justice might just be served.

 

[Beth11311]

The way it was worded sounded to me that with more tests they would be able to give a cause of death. The phrase which I have heard used in other cases is that the results were inconclusive and more tests are needed.

I wonder, as it will be a tricky case needing extradition ,whether they are being extra cautious and having a second independent pm or are bringing in a pathologist who has a particular specialism in some area of forensic examinations.

Definitely could be more tests needed. However you can also be, for example only, shot, stabbed, and beaten but the COD actually was a fatal blow to an internal organ from the knife, gun shot and beating may not have been sufficient to cause the COD, and sometimes more testing is required. But I hope that’s not the case.

 

[x_files]

I believe it's not uncommon for 'welfare checks' to be triggered by neighbours detecting an odour or insect activity, or other signs like mail piling up, milk bottles not collected (from the days we had milk delivery), etc. What confuses me about that, though, is the time of the call, if it really was around 3am. Who is awake and snooping on their neighbours (however benevolently) at that hour?

MOO

My take is someone HEARD something and was concerned enough to call for a Welfare Check. So loud noises, bumps, screaming, crying, yelling, an argument?

 

[JennieM]

My take is someone HEARD something and was concerned enough to call for a Welfare Check. So loud noises, bumps, screaming, crying, yelling, an argument?

That's what I think too.

 

[x_files]

That's what I think too.

It must have been very loud, or frightening to wake someone up and be worried enough to call the police.

 

[JennieM]

It must have been very loud, or frightening to wake someone up and be worried enough to call the police.

I think potentially there could be a lead up to it. Concerns growing and the neighbour becoming increasingly concerned over time.

 

[x_files]

I think potentially there could be a lead up to it. Concerns growing and the neighbour becoming increasingly concerned over time.

I suppose strange in-the-night activities, moving large boxes, notice Sarah missing. Or a bad odor after yelling, and screaming a few days prior. Those red flags could have alerted a next door neighbor.

 

[Skigh]

My take is someone HEARD something and was concerned enough to call for a Welfare Check. So loud noises, bumps, screaming, crying, yelling, an argument?

The family had left the country hours before the phone call to the police so there would not have been arguments heard or loud noises heard in the night. The next door neighbour said the first he knew anything was wrong was when he saw all the police vehicles.
A visit to check after a call for concern would not warrant numerous police vehicles.

 

[Nikynoo]

The family had left the country hours before the phone call to the police so there would not have been arguments heard or loud noises heard in the night. The next door neighbour said the first he knew anything was wrong was when he saw all the police vehicles.
A visit to check after a call for concern would not warrant numerous police vehicles.

I still think someone made a (very) detailed call after the flight landed in Pakistan.