GUILTY UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London, Clapham Common area, 3 Mar 2021 *Life sentence* #16

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CriLondon said:
Broadmoor for life.


If the alternative is a more lenient sentence and then be treated as a vulnerable prisoner .
I'm not an expert but , sex crime and being an ex cop I don't see him going in like everybody else .
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Broadmoor would require WC to meet certain criteria of the Mental Health Act for admission and we haven't really heard anything that would back that up. Sounds like his life was spiralling with debt, escorts etc but there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he is being treated or assessed long term for any severe mental health illnesses.

You're right though, he will not go into gen pop or I would be stunned if he did.
 
poirotlove88 said:
I think there was an element of that in his thought process, but honestly it seems like he was just so cocksure he wouldn't be caught. Reading all these details...this can't be his first.
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If it hadn't been for the bus cam footage and dash cam footage catching him would have been quite difficult
 
peggysue92 said:
In the UK are the CCTV images and dash cam footage released after sentencing? Sorry if a silly question. I was just wondering as in the Gabby Petito case the police footage has obviously already been released.
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Often it is, but not always.
 
peggysue92 said:
In the UK are the CCTV images and dash cam footage released after sentencing? Sorry if a silly question. I was just wondering as in the Gabby Petito case the police footage has obviously already been released.
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The Gabby Petito cam footage was from before she went missing and isn’t evidence of the exact moment of her being kidnapped, unlike this case. I don’t know rules around releasing additional footage after sentencing.
 
cuecard said:
There were clearly parts of his plan that were pre meditated and parts that he just did (post crime) as he went along. It actually looks like he panicked more AFTER the event than before or during it which is just chilling.
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Personally, I don’t see any evidence of panic. He went ahead and returned the hire car. Burning the body and throwing the phone in the river could well have been done calmly and aren’t necessarily panicked actions. They may have been poor attempts to obscure evidence from a police officer, but they don’t automatically suggest to me he was worried.

He went to Costa for breakfast, arranged dental appointments, got a vet appointment for the dog. He did normal things in his life and with his family. He did not turn himself in. He even took his family for a walk in the woods where he dumped Sarah.

I don’t think nerves started to get to him until he was arrested. It’s being caught that caused panic, not what he had done.
 
Newthoughts said:
If it hadn't been for the bus cam footage and dash cam footage catching him would have been quite difficult
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I keep thinking of that...if this had happened during the first lockdown he likely wouldn't have been caught - there were lots of reduced services on the bus, the streets were deserted, very few cars about.
 
The Old Bailey is being shown bodycam footage of Couzens' interview.

Sat at his home on a sofa next to a piano, with handcuffs on across his front and wearing a white t-shirt and shorts, he initially said he did not know Sarah Everard.

Eventually, he says: "Ok...well i am in a firearms squad... I was being lent on by a... I don't know who they are - a gang, whatever - they told me I needed to pick up girls."

He added: "I was told to take her. And that's where I am."

He told the officers that the gang members - who do not exist - told Couzens: "You done good."

Couzens added: "They were threatening to take my family away from me. I was doing what I can to protect my family."

Sarah Everard murder: Wayne Couzens 'may have used Covid rules to arrest and kidnap victim'
 
Telegraph report about the bus :
The key breakthrough for police was the hire car. By now, the news of Sarah Everard's disappearance was already seismic.
CCTV from the Route 157 bus was received by the police investigating Sarah Everard’s disappearance.
And immediate analysis of that CCTV and ANPR records led the police to identify the Vauxhall Crossland as the vehicle of interest seen on Poynders Road parked next to two figures, one of which matched the description of Sarah Everard.

This must be a typo since the 157 goes a different route unless the vehicles crossed paths in South London determining the registration number?

I was also unaware that SE's phone was found.
 
peggysue92 said:
In the UK are the CCTV images and dash cam footage released after sentencing? Sorry if a silly question. I was just wondering as in the Gabby Petito case the police footage has obviously already been released.
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We may not ever see them, you don’t always see the evidence here that you would in the States even after the fact.

Not quite the same, but I am shocked by US documentaries and crime websites that show crime scene photos of bodies of victims, those are hardly ever seen here.
 
He told officers that he handed Sarah Everard over to them.

When the officer explained he was limited in what he could say because the purpose of the interview was to enable the police to find Sarah, the defendant responded: "I’m sat in handcuffs and you’re asking me if I know her so you must have something to say that I know her?"

DI Harvey asked whether the defendant could tell them anything about where the police might be able to find her.

The defendant paused and then said he was "in financial s--t" and that he had been "leant on" by a gang to pick up girls and give them to them.

He had initially refused, but when they threatened to take his family and use them instead, he felt he had no choice but to comply.

Sarah Everard murder: Wayne Couzens 'may have used Covid rules to arrest and kidnap victim'
 
RexLuther said:
Telegraph report about the bus :
The key breakthrough for police was the hire car. By now, the news of Sarah Everard's disappearance was already seismic.
CCTV from the Route 157 bus was received by the police investigating Sarah Everard’s disappearance.
And immediate analysis of that CCTV and ANPR records led the police to identify the Vauxhall Crossland as the vehicle of interest seen on Poynders Road parked next to two figures, one of which matched the description of Sarah Everard.

This must be a typo since the 157 goes a different route unless the vehicles crossed paths in South London determining the registration number?

I was also unaware that SE's phone was found.
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Yes, at the last hearing they said that they had so fast been unable to locate her phone. I think that was July. So it must have only been recovered quite recently
 
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