UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 #2

[Audiohoney]

You are doing a fine job plugging away.
I think it’s someone else. On a bike perhaps as it looks like it’s in the road?

Looks like a bike to me too. Great spot though @twinpinesmall .. I was looking for turquoise as well! Although no light coloured hat and turquoise could indeed be deliveroo as has been suggested.

 

[suzyjackson]

well it is very hard to keep up with the pace of how much everyone is posting tbh

There are a lot of posts but thread 1 is closed now so won't change as you read it and all of the basic info is covered in that one

 

[Parmalade]

Surely if the hat has been lying somewhere for that long then it would be much more dirty/muddy than the one shown in the screenshot? It could be that it was discovered by a member of the public and put somewhere more visible for whoever had dropped it, in case they come back looking for it.

You’d be surprised- I once left a jacket after an outside football match at a college campus once. Which was then locked for half term for a week (similar time of year - Feb). When it was opened back up, the janitor allowed me to retrieve it and I couldn’t believe it was practically still clean, despite the wind and rain we’d had. Almost as if the rain and sun had continually washed and dried it!

That said, I don’t think it’s SE’s.

 

[Blanche]

The answers and discussion of these points are all covered in thread 1.

Boyfriend reported her missing to friends - we presume when she was due to meet him Thursday evening. Friends then reported her missing to the police. 8pm on Thursday (the day after she vanished).

thank you

 

[infinit]

Surely if the hat has been lying somewhere for that long then it would be much more dirty/muddy than the one shown in the screenshot? It could be that it was discovered by a member of the public and put somewhere more visible for whoever had dropped it, in case they come back looking for it.

Looking at weather data it rained in the early hours of Thursday morning and not since so it should be fairly easy to tell if it was before or after.

 

[Fortune Cookie]

well it is very hard to keep up with the pace of how much everyone is posting tbh

You can use the search function on the top right hand side of the page to look up things within this thread. The questions you are asking have all been answered and discussed. Hope this helps.

 

[KensingtonandChelsea]

One question that's roused me has also been, why did the boyfriend wait until 8pm to raise the alarm? Perhaps this is just when the formal missing persons enquiry was reported, but I find it odd that having spoken on the phone with him, jovially as the reports suggest, he would not be concerned when she failed to either call or message him when she got home, nor up to 8pm on Thursday 4th March. Possibly I'm being overly cynical and the 'formal' alarm can only be raised 24hrs after the person was last seen, but it just struck me as odd

Maybe they didn’t have that ‘text me when you get home’ system in place and having spoken to her on the phone 30/20 mins before she was due to reach home, maybe they both weren’t worried about whether she would make it back safely or not. It may be a new relationship so not much regular texting going on?

He arranged to meet with her the day after, probably after work and when she didn’t show up, he may have called/texted her. After getting no reply, he called her friends who then reported her missing. It may not have been uncommon for him not to hear from her throughout the working day so he didn’t worry when he didn’t hear from her in daylight hours.

 

[Tortoise]

Blanche this is all covered the the threads.

The only one we have an answer to is that she did not turn up to meet her boyfriend next day.

We don't know who reported her missing, or if she was supposed to be working next day, or what time she was planning to meet her boyfriend.

 

[Vera_dci]

I still believe the hat could be Sarah's . I always find it fascinating how we all see different things, it happens alot on here. Without knowing the height of the officer collecting the hat I cant determine the cuff size. Also the cctv is at an above angle which also makes it hard to determine size. We know Sarah is 5.4ft and that's about it. Coukd the fact that she has her hair down make the hat appear thicker? Just my thoughts and I'm no way saying I'm right.

 

[Parmalade]

I would guess you would spent some time phoning round friends etc to see if anyone else has heard before you call police but yes 4 hours seems a lot to me.

Not sure if you meant 24 hrs there in response to the other post but it’s possible that both the partner and SE had work all day on the Thursday and therefore he didn’t expect to hear from her until later that day. But sure the police will have enquired about this.

 

[Blanche]

The only one we have an answer to is that she did not turn up to meet her boyfriend next day.

We don't know who reported her missing, or if she was supposed to be working next day, or what time she was planning to meet her boyfriend.

ah thank you that explains why i hadnt seen the answers to those questions when i looked

 

[twinpinesmall]

I would guess you would spent some time phoning round friends etc to see if anyone else has heard before you call police but yes 4 hours seems a lot to me.

As a newb, I feel like any mention of my opinions of other people (friends/boyfriends) will get me a TOS slap on the wrist, but let's just say that I would definitely be a pain in the butt for anyone insisting on walking home at night, at the very least making sure to ask if their battery was charged before leaving and asking them to text when home ok. Silence after any amount of time = there's a problem (in my world anyway).

 

[twinpinesmall]

Double post

 

[infinit]

I still believe the hat could be Sarah's . I always find it fascinating how we all see different things, it happens alot on here. Without knowing the height of the officer collecting the hat I cant determine the cuff size. Also the cctv is at an above angle which also makes it hard to determine size. We know Sarah is 5.4ft and that's about it. Coukd the fact that she has her hair down make the hat appear thicker? Just my thoughts and I'm no way saying I'm right.

I think that's something they'd have clarified when they started to get serious - Has she left anything at yours Sarah. Also,if she felt she needed the hat earlier in the evening I expect she'd want it even more later at night!

 

[suzyjackson]

One question that's roused me has also been, why did the boyfriend wait until 8pm to raise the alarm? Perhaps this is just when the formal missing persons enquiry was reported, but I find it odd that having spoken on the phone with him, jovially as the reports suggest, he would not be concerned when she failed to either call or message him when she got home, nor up to 8pm on Thursday 4th March. Possibly I'm being overly cynical and the 'formal' alarm can only be raised 24hrs after the person was last seen, but it just struck me as odd

This comes up on pretty much every missing person thread and the answer I think is both simple and complicated.

Everyone's lives and ways of interacting are different and whilst it's easy to use hindsight it would be extremely unusal for anyone'e first thought on not hearing from someone to be that they'd be kidnapped/murdered etc. You'd think phone problems, overslept, forgot first IMO, you don't ring the police because you think you're overreacting, you'd be embarrassed to be wrong, maybe they had a fight on the phone there could be many reasons. Of course you try friends and family first and over a course of time you exhaust all the mundane options before raising a formal alarm

JMO

And you don't have to wait for 24 hours btw, just in case you are ever in that situation

 

[jenpil]

sorry but I cannot find it?

Go back to thread 1 and just keep reading everyone's posts on every page. That way, your questions will be answered and you'll know what's been discussed and what hasn't.

 

[thedukelenuke]

There's pictures of Agnes Riley Gardens being searched (next to Clarence Avenue, where phone signal was lost) here: Police divers and sniffer dogs search Clapham ponds in hunt for Sarah Everard

There's also a sheltered bin store on the opposite side of the road - wonder if they have been searched.

 

[Jimmy Pats]

After that tweet there were about 24 people urging the poster to contact the police. She made no response to this though she has posted and liked on different topics not related to SE since. It’s a bit odd.

 

[hed_ts]

This comes up on pretty much every missing person thread and the answer I think is both simple and complicated.

Everyone's lives and ways of interacting are different and whilst it's easy to use hindsight it would be extremely unusal for anyone'e first thought on not hearing from someone to be that they'd be kidnapped/murdered etc. You'd think phone problems, overslept, forgot first IMO, you don't ring the police because you think you're overreacting, you'd be embarrassed to be wrong, maybe they had a fight on the phone there could be many reasons. Of course you try friends and family first and over a course of time you exhaust all the mundane options before raising a formal alarm

JMO

And you don't have to wait for 24 hours btw, just in case you are ever in that situation

Of course, I'll try to not read into a relationship I know absolutely nothing about LOL! Think having been so engrossed in missing persons for so long I now automatically fear the worst when I can't get hold of someone. I do wonder though if her partner lived far away from her, hence why he couldn't meet her to walk her home or something. Like I say, all JMO and speculation, just with such few details I'm grabbing on to anything I can

 

[Vera_dci]

I think that's something they'd have clarified when they started to get serious - Has she left anything at yours Sarah. Also,if she felt she needed the hat earlier in the evening I expect she'd want it even more later at night!

Sorry I'm confused?