Found Alive UT - Madelyn Allen, 19, seen leaving Snow College dorm, Ephraim, 13 Dec 2021

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I honestly wish for Maddie all these details weren’t released. Talk about trauma all over. Poor thing. Praying for her. Let this loser rot in jail.

I don't think there is any doubt that releasing the details will make it more difficult for Maddie. I only hope that by the details being public, it might save other young women from becoming involved in dangerous internet behavior. Maddie will probably have a long road to recovery, but maybe the day will come that she might find the strength to be an advocate for girls who find themselves in similar situations.
 
I don't think there is any doubt that releasing the details will make it more difficult for Maddie. I only hope that by the details being public, it might save other young women from becoming involved in dangerous internet behavior. Maddie will probably have a long road to recovery, but maybe the day will come that she might find the strength to be an advocate for girls who find themselves in similar situations.

"Level of Detail" could be an interesting discussion: there is a midpoint at which we might be able to learn how to combat this evil, without becoming maudlin or increasing the hurt/embarrassment of the victim.
 
So glad to hear that this young lady was found alive! I have read several new articles that show photos of this victim, but I’ve seen none of the suspect. Why?

It would be helpful to see his mugshot and know more about his online presence. Brent Brown might be tied to other open cases.
 
I'm really angry. I can't believe this. I am so sad and hurt. That poor girl had to endure horrible things. I wish I could take away her pain and make her healing process very fast. It's going to take some time for her to recover. I can imagine that this guy is going to claim that everything was consensual. But that's BS. He knew that she was reported missing. It had to be all over the news. And then police were searching the area, and he clearly lied to police. If she hadn't been able to text her parents, I don't know if police would have found her this quickly.
 
The details released were unexpected. On the other hand, all these details and more will come out at trial.

This could be an extremely messy trial.

Oh, you can believe that her post asking to be kidnaped is going to be a part of his claim that everything was consensual. You are right, it will most definitely be a messy trial! And a 39-year-old loser living in his mom and dad's basement...go figure.
 
Oh, you can believe that her post asking to be kidnaped is going to be a part of his claim that everything was consensual. You are right, it will most definitely be a messy trial! And a 39-year-old loser living in his mom and dad's basement...go figure.
I can’t imagine Maddie going with this gross loser willingly after she saw who he was and that he was twice her age. I’m 99% positive she thought she was meeting someone else and she was catfished. I would not be surprised if BB told her he was the father of the guy she planned to meet.
 
Omg that poor girl, that man is a real piece of work. Imo even tho I’m sure that’s many peoples opinions on him right now. She was lucky she was found by police cuz things could have gotten so sooo much worse had she been gone any longer.
though, the guy is a real piece of trash I would like to hear her side of it all too like if she knew he was a creep or what.
 
<snip>I can imagine that this guy is going to claim that everything was consensual. But that's BS. He knew that she was reported missing. It had to be all over the news. And then police were searching the area, and he clearly lied to police.
If he pleads not guilty, the defense is going to have to try to prove that it was consensual and that she didn't contact her parents after learning they were searching for her because she didn't want to, which is going to get very ugly and unpleasant for her and her family.

The charges he's facing:

Utah Code § 76-5-302:
An actor commits aggravated kidnapping if the actor, in the course of committing unlawful detention or kidnapping ... uses or threatens to use a dangerous weapon as defined in Section 76-1-601; or ... acts with intent: ... to inflict bodily injury on or to terrorize the victim or another individual [or] ... to commit a sexual offense as described in Title 76, Chapter 5, Part 4, Sexual Offenses. ... Aggravated kidnapping is a first degree felony punishable by a term of imprisonment of: ... life without parole, if the trier of fact finds that during the course of the commission of the aggravated kidnapping the defendant caused serious bodily injury to the victim or another individual; or ... life without parole, if the trier of fact finds that at the time of the commission of the aggravated kidnapping, the defendant was previously convicted of a grievous sexual offense.

Utah Code § 76-5-402 & 76-5-402.2:
A person commits rape when the actor has sexual intercourse with another person without the victim's consent ... Rape is a felony of the first degree, punishable by a term of imprisonment of: ... not less than five years and which may be for life; ... 15 years and which may be for life, if the trier of fact finds that: ... during the course of the commission of the rape the defendant caused serious bodily injury to another; or ... life without parole, if the trier of fact finds that at the time of the commission of the rape the defendant was previously convicted of a grievous sexual offense.

Utah Code § 76-8-306:
An actor commits obstruction of justice if the actor, with intent to hinder, delay, or prevent the investigation, apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or punishment of any person regarding conduct that constitutes a criminal offense ... prevents by force, intimidation, or deception, any person from performing any act that might aid in the discovery, apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or punishment of any person ... alters, destroys, conceals, or removes any item or other thing; ... [or] provides false information regarding a suspect, a witness, the conduct constituting an offense, or any other material aspect of the investigation. Obstruction of justice is: a second degree felony if the conduct which constitutes an offense would be a capital felony or first degree felony.
 
Looks like Fox13 changed their minds about publishing all the detail and removed it from their story. This is the same link from last night

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/southern-utah-man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-kidnapping

That is like locking the stable door after the horse has already gotten out. Better late than never, but damage is already done. Countless people have already seen it. I'll bet they removed it at the request of LE and not the family.
 
Also, she posted about not liking some posts on KIK and some strange remark about kidnap me with her phone number. I am sure at this time her social media accounts have been gone over by LE.

I think she meant “kidnap me” as “im bored, someone pick me up and lets hangout” I am guilty of even using that line on sm when I was probably 18/19 with friends all the time. It’s just a phrase, it don’t mean “actually abduct me” … i would never do that now and Especially knowing what I know now on the creeps hiding out on the internet. I didn’t think of those things back then either because there wasn’t a ton of sm around back then, I think that when we look into certain things in other peoples lives we try to view it in their eyes at the age they are, I think we tend to forget some of the things we’ve said and done too as young adults but it does help kinda going back into our own time to see how things have changed and the phrasing. I try to do this because I feel sometimes we forget we were all pretty young and naive once upon a time.

Soooo happy she was found, and super grateful that she was found before anything else terrible happened!
 
I think she meant “kidnap me” as “im bored, someone pick me up and lets hangout” I am guilty of even using that line on sm when I was probably 18/19 with friends all the time. It’s just a phrase, it don’t mean “actually abduct me” … i would never do that now and Especially knowing what I know now on the creeps hiding out on the internet. I didn’t think of those things back then either because there wasn’t a ton of sm around back then, I think that when we look into certain things in other peoples lives we try to view it in their eyes at the age they are, I think we tend to forget some of the things we’ve said and done too as young adults but it does help kinda going back into our own time to see how things have changed and the phrasing. I try to do this because I feel sometimes we forget we were all pretty young and naive once upon a time.

Soooo happy she was found, and super grateful that she was found before anything else terrible happened!

That's why there needs to be SERIOUS Security Awareness Training for all new students. Many are naive in 'all kinds of ways' and need a sober talking-to - and they need to hear examples of those who have been victimized (scare 'em) and it needs to be enforced on campus. "It can't happen to me" - until it does.

JMOO!! - YMMV!!
 
I think she meant “kidnap me” as “im bored, someone pick me up and lets hangout” I am guilty of even using that line on sm when I was probably 18/19 with friends all the time. It’s just a phrase, it don’t mean “actually abduct me” … i would never do that now and Especially knowing what I know now on the creeps hiding out on the internet. I didn’t think of those things back then either because there wasn’t a ton of sm around back then, I think that when we look into certain things in other peoples lives we try to view it in their eyes at the age they are, I think we tend to forget some of the things we’ve said and done too as young adults but it does help kinda going back into our own time to see how things have changed and the phrasing. I try to do this because I feel sometimes we forget we were all pretty young and naive once upon a time.

Soooo happy she was found, and super grateful that she was found before anything else terrible happened!

I definitely agree with you as to what she meant by her "come and kidnap me" comment, I am just saying that it is going to be used against her in every way possible by this creep's defense team. JMO
 
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Before the Internet, there was a "ride board" at the college, everyone put where they were going for Christmas break, if you needed a ride, or could provide transportation. This was even before Cellphones! (B.C.)...

A guy put that he could provide rides, so I called him. He was not a college student. I asked if we had friends in common...none. It seemed super creepy to me that some random dude put his information on the "college ride board", when he was not even a student.

The whole thing was strange, I told the RA (Resident Advisor) about it. She took down his card, and banned everyone who was not a student from posting, it needed her signature and date prior to posting.

I always wondered about that. Just creepy. That is what I thought this was, that the victim was getting a ride home for the holidays.
 
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