seattlechiquita
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Yes! Just watched the verdict on YouTube. Both me and Mr. Chiquito. He said "oh, he looks shady". To say the least! Peace and coffee to all!
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No more live trials on HLN or TV!!! :tantrum:
Guess I'll just have WS for trial coverage.
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@Tantalizinyou @TrialDivasJ @LadyJustice2188 This is the last trial that HLN will do any live coverage on. No trial will be on tv.
I don't think this is a bad thing. The people who want to watch the trial can find a live feed online. Also, by not having weeks/months of 24/7 coverage on a news channel, you are decreasing the amount of MSM coverage a case receives, therefore reducing the notoriety of the killer, and how much they (and their family and lawyers) will be "worth" after it ends in book deals, interviews, etc.
good morning...still recapping things in my mind...one thing that left me wondering and maybe someone has an explanation is the defense strategy...an accident and she took the pills herself. It was so weak and obviously their goal was reasonable doubt. I think the best way to go for doubt would have been suicide and maybe that was MM initial intention and things did not go well. Michelle was a "middle aged" woman who had been a beauty queen and had put on a fair amount of weight and was losing those "beauty queen" looks. I think aging is much tougher on women who were once as beautiful as Michelle. It was bothering her...not to the point of facelift but to the point where she did agree to do the surgery. She admitted she was depressed and had good reasons with her husband's behavior the last year and finally confirming the affair etc. It was clear he was not going to stop. All of this in the context of an LDS community and all that implies in terms of shame etc. There is more than enough evidence that she could have been a candidate for suicide. She had access to the pills etc. So had the defense set it up this way I think they would have had a better chance at reasonable doubt. For some reason at the last minute they read the stipulation about suicide and I really don't know when that was entered into and frankly I don't know why the defense agreed to it. Any thoughts on this idea...maybe it has been discussed before but the minute I heard the stipulation my mind started working. It seems so logical as so like MM to set this up. A depressed woman with tons on pills at hand and then makes her way to the bathtub.
I don't think this is a bad thing. The people who want to watch the trial can find a live feed online. Also, by not having weeks/months of 24/7 coverage on a news channel, you are decreasing the amount of MSM coverage a case receives, therefore reducing the notoriety of the killer, and how much they (and their family and lawyers) will be "worth" after it ends in book deals, interviews, etc.
I don't think I will Bravo, I don't know have never attended a high profile trial before....who knows maybe I will make it a first.
Excuse my ignorance, but when does the trial start?
My mom and grams always talk about this case, but I seem to not get caught up in the local stuff as much. I think it is because I read and watch national and world news more than local. *I have been shamed about this by my father*.
Do you hang on the Bashara thread here?
What trial is everyone moving on to?
I feel so lost :scared:
ETA- I should add we are likely going to have another very newsworthy case happening in my area soon. Would not be surprised if MSM picks up on it, it is going to be very Zimmerman-like. White guy in his 50's killed a black woman in her late teens (19 I think) on his front porch at 2:30 am last weekend. It is already controversial. Hmmmm maybe there is a thread here already?
I know but Jean is known for coming up with this drama of reading jurors and she's always wrong so I like to pick on her.
Here is Surrender Order of RN/LPN license for Gypsy Willis from 2009.
http://dopl.utah.gov/orders/2009-234_SO_2009-08-06.pdf
Is she able to regain her nursing credentials at a later date? Seems the felony conviction would preclude that. Of course, she'll probably just change her name again and proceed as usual.
agree with thoughts above but if you have a channel that is floundering and only gets ratings with trials...why would you take trials off? Even if they don't have them all the time it seems one good one after another is coming these days and they can capitalize. I saw some of their new programming lineup and it sounds awful. I think there may be a mis understanding of what they will do. JVM and NG etc. would not have much to talk about if they were not hyping the trials...only very limited audience for animal rights and lost kids (no offense intended). I am looking at it from a business perspective because I am certain the "suits" at CNN/HLN only care about their ratings not potential gain for killers etc. I guarantee right now they are jockeying for interviews after this case including an in jail interview with MM. Frankly none of these interviews or potential shows etc. would have an audience if the trial had not been covered on HLN. I know very few people that "live stream". Most have it on in the backgound on TV if at all.
BBMI'm guessing it was a toss up when thinking about it. There was no loving note left for her children, MM insisted it was an accident and set it up as such with the call to Alexis that mom needed to lay down, he was worried. So the story line was already headed toward accident. To suddenly try to force suicide into the story would have proven even more difficult to argue.
Since defense did not argue well, and it seems RS has problems with women or any witness, meaning his accusatory style should preclude any murder clients from retaining him, this is the best they could do. Accidents as such do happen, but they never bother to show that, or much of anything but accusations against witnesses. Impeaching a witness can be done tactfully and without your own personal issues shining through more brightly than what it is you are trying to accomplish in a trial.
No idea why it is happening, but I think it is a good thing. HLN was just awful at showing trials, more like one big commercial, and when not in commercial, one big prosecution of all players mentioned. Lol.
Court TV was a bit better back in the day when I had free cable included at an apartment.
Online is much better, as people can watch exactly what is happening without all the jibberjabber in between (that usually proves incorrect anyway) and without loads of commercials.
Here is Surrender Order of RN/LPN license for Gypsy Willis from 2009.
http://dopl.utah.gov/orders/2009-234_SO_2009-08-06.pdf
Is she able to regain her nursing credentials at a later date? Seems the felony conviction would preclude that. Of course, she'll probably just change her name again and proceed as usual.
BTW: Just checked who Bathsheba really was: Bathsheba was the mistress and later the wife of King David.
What a name Gypsy choose for herself.
I have watched her cover many trials and she is always pro-defense. So wish Beth was in her position.