Hi Tricia Frankly I'd be delighted to "lose contact" w JP, for all this "grace" and no confrontation or accountabilty he hasn't opened up to anyone yet--and he's not going to. He's headed straight back to WA where he's opted instead to hole up and hunker down w daddy, meanwhile LE will be watching him--and rightfully so. JMO (bump, snip)
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(snipped) JMO, if he was innocent he would not leave, he would stay close to Susan's family, keep his sons in familiar surroundings, and he'd be cooperating with the search for his beloved wife. Josh's actions are screaming guilty to me. Is he innocent and just a bad actor and liar, I personally think not.
Maybe I should not have worded my post that way. I have just been very emotional today and felt as though if certain people didn't agree with what I was doing, then that also meant that they didn't care to hear about what went on while I was there. That was my reasoning behind my post. Sorry if it offended anyone. It has been a hard day.
I honestly don't know what to do here. I want to share with all of you what I observed today and what happened because I know we all want the same thing...to find Susan and to find the truth of what happened and to get justice for whoever did this to her, but I am feeling cautious now as a few people have pointed out that anyone could be reading this. I didn't really have a concern about that before but now I am unsure.
I know for a fact that Josh has not been online at all in the past month. He just does not want to read anything about the story and does not want to read all the crap people are saying about him. And I also know that the family has not turned on the tv in WA at all because they don't want the boys to see any of it. But I am nervous that a certain other individual may be doing some snooping online to see what people are saying, so I really don't know what to do.
I mean, the chances that they found WS of all places and are reading all of our speculations, is pretty slim...IMO. What do you all think? Should I just risk it and share it all on the main board or keep it to pm? Or is that against the rules? I just don't know...sigh.
Kiki, it does seem odd, such as like someone mentioned previously, if she did just disappear and he had nothing to do with it, how would she be able to find him if she was able to escape and return - there's no concern from JP regarding that. On the other hand, he is moving right into the "backyard" of SP's parents. If he had actually murdered Susan, it would definitely seem abnormal to quickly move right up to nearby where her parents (the Coxes) live. And finally, whether JP is responsible or not, there has been some kind of tramatic event resulting in his wife's disappearance, and he is going to get the most support from his parents - and as long as there is no evidence, you can bet that the parents are going to give JP every benefit of the doubt possible. As long as he doesn't confess guilt to his parents, his parents really have an obligation to support him. Even if he winds up confessing to the police, his parents will still love him unconditionally - hey where else do you get love like that except from your parents?
You can do whatever you want. I would feel the same way if I were you. Since some here have been hypercritical of people helping JP put Utah behind him, I would assume that they would not even want to know what your observations are, so no I would not share those on the main thread. I know that Kiirsi is aware of this thread since she mentioned it in her own blog.
I personally see nothing wrong with someone helping Josh pack up his and Susan's belongings, even if it turned out her murdered her. But then I don't think him moving to WA is that bad of an idea, from his kid's perspective, and since I don't think Susan will be returning as a living person, the kids are the most important.
It's the police's job to find the real killer, not the friends of Susan. Is there anyone besides a very few people that really harbor hope that Susan will be found alive? The police can fly up to WA anytime that JP gives them the go-ahead, and all WVCPD is out is the airfare.
Reminder - both sets of the boys grandparents live in Washington, right? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about that. But grandparents are usually pretty good about giving love and support to their grandchildren. So from the boys' welfare and future happiness perspective, staying in Utah may actually not be as good of a choice, however bad it makes Josh look. Probably some may disagree, but that's okay with me.
There's sleuthing that needs to be done here, Friends.
JMO, I don't see blood when I try to imagine what happened to Susan. I don't think Josh would shoot her, or that he cracked her skull. I tend to think he strangled her. Really trying to figure out when another big fight occurred, when he may have drugged her, and why there was a wet spot in the LR and not in the bedroom?
Here are the questions running through my mind:
Did they argue after Jovanna left, or before she came over for dinner? Did Josh decide early that day to give Susan a drug, and to go through with a premeditated plan? Was it not planned, and she wasn't drugged, and her death a result of Josh's rage in the middle of a terrible fight? What is that wet spot? What did the boys hear or see?
Also wonder if Jovanna is helping out in the packing. Where's she been?
I don't want to be too graphic here, so I'm going to try to be a bit subtle - which is not my strong suit! There are certain functions that occur upon death that could explain that wet spot being something other than blood. KWIM?
Of course, it COULD be blood from a death caused by other than strangulation. But strangulation is also a viable theory that we can't rule out. It's also a very common method of murder in scenarios such as what many here have speculated happened in that house the night Susan disappeared.
how do you get to the parking lot....please help...
how do you get to the parking lot....please help...
I don't think the basement would be much safer than the regular board. I only found this board because I have a particular interest in Susan's case, and became a member so I could join the discussions. No reason anyone in Josh's "defense team" couldn't do the same, or Josh himself.