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how does a reward expire?? what happens to the $$$?
how does a reward expire?? what happens to the $$$?
how does a reward expire?? what happens to the $$$?
After reading what I could find on here and on the internet, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Jennifer was the target, not the parents. I think this because whoever took Jennifer took a huge risk in taking her out of the home and transporting her to another location---perps don't do that unless they really want the person they took. If someone was simply wanting to get even with the parents, as has been suggested, they wouldn't have bothered taking Jennifer with them, she would not have been any interest to them. Also, these murders and abductions were obviously planned, wasn't a "spur of the moment" thing,,,it's too clean, too few clues, and went off too well.
I searched for pictures of the Jennifer Renee Short Memorial Bridge and couldn't find a one, so did a Google Earth for Grogan Road, Rockingham, NC and found it. It's a very small little bridge over a little creek, way out in a rural area. As we sleuthers know, perps usually pick a dumping ground that is near them, but often not too near---so they can visit the remains (hate typing that) and an area that feels "safe" to the perp. Whoever took Jennifer from her home, and brought her to that bridge, did so for a reason.
It has been speculated that Bowman was set up by his landlord. The news article in the following post has some interesting information from an interview with Bowman.
I'm praying that LE can solve this case. Bowman does "look" guilty, but LE searched his truck and trailer and obviously couldn't find any or enough evidence to make an arrest so that makes me wonder. He did leave right after the murders to go to Cananda but says it wasn't a secret, that he had had the trip planned for a while. Could be he was set up. I'm sure LE knows far more than they're telling.
It just makes me so mad to know that someone just walked in, shot the parents, took Jennifer, killed her too and left her under that bridge. I want justice!
EDITED TO ADD: At link below, it states LE has DNA samples of perp which don't match Bowman. "...hair and fingerprints of the perpetrator were found and collected but no matches have been found."
http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.co...?p=71271&sid=6be7f6141089e04c431bc982801138fc
As a local resident, many many people have felt this case was committed by someone local, but not Bowman. Several popular online sleuths who have been involved with researching this case, say they felt that Joseph Duncan was responsible. But now that they have finally released info saying that they have a hair & fingerprints that aren't in any databases, that throws out those theories.
Given everything that has happened in that area since the Short family murders, I still go back to my original theory, it was someone local. The Short family home was easily accessible via the main highway, but where Jennifer's remains were found, is an out of the way place one normally wouldn't just happen upon. Sure it would be possible, but not likely.
Now we learn that this "tip", of the vehicle and man sitting on the side of the road that night was sent shortly after the murders, but got "lost"? How does any LE agency lose this type of a tip? I don't give a rat's behind if there were 10,000 tips that came in :banghead: This supposedly happened after the tip was called in to the Rockingham County LE department.
Then you have the arrests of former Henry County Sheriff Frank Cassell, along with 20 of his deputies on charges of racketeering conspiracy that included the distribution of illegal drugs, theft of drugs and firearms under the custody of the Henry County Sheriff's Office, money laundering, and obstruction of justice (http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/wdo110206.html). These arrests came in November of 2006, just over 4 yrs from the Short Family murders.
Is it all somehow connected? We have no clue, but I can tell you most, if not everybody in the local area thinks it is.
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I've read in MSM (don't have link) that LE is looking for old employees of Mr. Smart, many of whom were illegal migrants and therefore hard to track. Knowing now that LE has hair samples and knowing that often race can be narrowed down by a hair sample, it makes me wonder if LE doesn't isn't looking for a person of a particular race. Does that make sense? But then I wonder how they know they have the hair sample of the perp since it was so professionally done. I mean how do they know the hair wasn't from just anyone that had been in the house---although obviously LE knows way more than they are saying. Doesn't look like any struggles at all and they don't mention getting evidence from under the Shorts' fingernails (although that could be something they are holding back).
Side notes: I feel very sorry for Mr. Bowman and agree with the locals' perspectives that the LE at the time could have been involved.
JMHO
These are the crime scene photos taken from the AMW video which aired Saturday (they are not very good, if anyone else here knows how to screencap & upload it would be much appreciated):
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For taking the time, and putting in the effort to post those clips of the crime scene. Your time and effort in doing so is very much appreciated and not taken for granted.
I just wanted you to know that.
It was a 22, but that's all I know. I don't think it's ever been stated by LE if it was a handgun or shotgun. If I were to guess, I would think shotgun cause 22 handguns just aren't that accurate, and each of the Shorts only had one shot to the head.But they said they recovered shell casings. Was that from an automatic weapon, or a pump action shotgun?
Please state who you think killed the Short family and why you came to that conclusion . . .
I've read in MSM (don't have link) that LE is looking for old employees of Mr. Smart, many of whom were illegal migrants and therefore hard to track. Knowing now that LE has hair samples and knowing that often race can be narrowed down by a hair sample, it makes me wonder if LE doesn't isn't looking for a person of a particular race. Does that make sense? But then I wonder how they know they have the hair sample of the perp since it was so professionally done. I mean how do they know the hair wasn't from just anyone that had been in the house---although obviously LE knows way more than they are saying. Doesn't look like any struggles at all and they don't mention getting evidence from under the Shorts' fingernails (although that could be something they are holding back).
Side notes: I feel very sorry for Mr. Bowman and agree with the locals' perspectives that the LE at the time could have been involved.
JMHO
Yes, and some of those killed at duncan's victim's house were killed by wounds to the headJoseph Duncan killed parents and a sibling just so he could
take the two younger children (ended up killing one of those two before he was caught).
Jennifer may have been the target.
I think the same guy who killed that family in Idaho did it, because the mo is pretty much the same.
Both homes were near an interstate, the child/ren were found in the countryside.
The purpose of killing the parents was to take the child/ren.
He used a baseball bat on the family in ID, and a gun for the one in VA.
I think there are many more victims of his as well.
I've thought this from almost the beginning of the Idaho case which happened after this case.
He also shot the boy, Dylan, in the woods with a shotgun iirc, then buned him in the fire pit.
I don't know why bones only were found of this girl, but six weeks laters only bones were recovered? Did he attempt to destroy evidence in her case as well.
moo
how does a reward expire?? what happens to the $$$?
You're welcome. Just wish I were better at it :waitasec:
It was a 22, but that's all I know. I don't think it's ever been stated by LE if it was a handgun or shotgun. If I were to guess, I would think shotgun cause 22 handguns just aren't that accurate, and each of the Shorts only had one shot to the head.
You're welcome. Just wish I were better at it :waitasec:
It was a 22, but that's all I know. I don't think it's ever been stated by LE if it was a handgun or shotgun. If I were to guess, I would think shotgun cause 22 handguns just aren't that accurate, and each of the Shorts only had one shot to the head.
Yes, perhaps a serial killer MO. But not someone previously known to be operating.curious_mom said:Looks to me like what we have is a killer of multiple people, who's
not ever been convicted of anything. . .
We do not know for a fact this person went from nothing to doing this as his first crime,curious_mom said:. . .So how does one go from a supposed life of no crime, to a spree of killing 2,
kidnapping 1 and then later killing them too. Isn't that pretty rare?