VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 40

[wenwe4]

Anyone know how to start a poll?

We need 2 (IMO)
1) Date & time for verdict reached - given work schedule 9:30 - 4:30 M-Th
2) DP or Life or No Unanimous Verdict

Other suggestions?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Will the jury be able to keep the notes?

At least in our court system here, no. Juror notebooks are left in the deliberating room at the end of the day (locked by bailiff), and turned over to the court at then end of proceedings.

Just my experience, not in AZ

 

[JSR]

IIRC they were boyfriend and girlfriend for 2 months. What I cannot remember is how long did they actually know each other until she murdered Travis?

I think the dating part is open for debate. Jodi claims it was 5-6 months but there isn't any evidence, other than Jodi, that the relationship lasted that long. I'm of the opinion it lasted a few months

 

[sammie]

The jury in the "American Sniper" trial came back with a verdict in less than three hours after they got the case (yesterday).

We could only dream. I think his guilt was pretty clear-cut (they didn't buy the insanity defense), so there wasn't much left for them to deliberate. Life or death debate will most likely take more time, especially since it's doubtful they'll come to a unanimous agreement, MOO.

 

[AZlawyer]

I'm sure AZL can explain this better than I can but I believe that the appeal that would be automatic for her if she receives the DP will require little to no input from her. So she will not be centre stage during that mandatory appeal process.

Now if she receives life and has to pay for an appeal or go with a public defender, then it gives her and her supporters reason to keep her in the public eye forever. Not to mention the visitation rules will be much more relaxed meaning she can continue to manipulate her minions from inside prison walls. And gather some more who will carry on her work when they are released.

DP verdict will likely silence her much better than LWOP.

MOO

Either way, her appeal will be paid for by the state and will require no direct input from her.

 

[Truth Detector]

Beavis and Butthead

The Mods don't like us using nicknames for Defense counsel and expert witness(es)

 

[tlckgram]

I have it too and getting the shot on Friday. Ugh! She deserves it in both feet!

Okay, so is the jury actually deliberating already or do they start at 9:00 am tomorrow. Did they basically use this time to go over the deliberations rules and instructions?

My husband had a severe case of PF and did the exercises. You can google them, and believe it or not they work. My mom had it last year and she did the exercises and they helped her too. Try it!

 

[Hope4More]

That was the DTs strategy to put as much time as possible between deliberations and the states testimony about the premeditation and they accomplished that and then some putting months and months between the testimony.
Their other strategy was to trash Travis enough that one juror might think he had it coming. That part I hope failed miserably.

Thankfully, a lot of very significant new evidence was admitted this time around, and the DT's revolting Jekyl and Hyde routine had an upside.

Unlike the last jury, this one heard all kinds of evidence that JA stalked him, interfered with his relationships, was obsessed with him from the very beginning, hid under the tree, waited outside the bathroom door.... so much, and all of it absolutely convincing that SHE pursued HIM.

As for the split personalities of Travis. Bad Travis, yada yada. Trash the victim. Don't see how that helps the DT, given out far they took that line. Good Travis. Well, that was new. Yes they used his horrible childhood against him, but it cuts two ways. It's just as likely if not more likely that the jury will feel MORE sympathy for Travis, not less. And perhaps, if they talk about this for even a little while, maybe it will occur to at least some of them that the genuine abuse Travis suffered is what made HIM vulnerable to HER.

 

[Kadoober]

I hope that the jury takes their time, that they review any evidence they need to, that they work over any potential issues they may have with whatever penalty they are leaning towards.
I hope they are thoughtful, that they are respectful of the weight of the decision they have to make.
I do not want them to rush to a decision, whatever their decision ultimately may be. I don't want them to have any regrets or second thoughts afterwards.

 

[RR0004]

No, but I think they were her accomplices... Carl took her to get the car, I have suspicions that her sister may have removed evidence when she left for rehab shortly after the murder and before JA was arrested, the "stolen" phone... yea right, her folks for getting her the rental car and hiding the gun in it for her "escape" the day she was arrested, not to mention her ex-bf's assistance, gas-cans, forged letters, GS's help with both being a witness and one of her phones plus that whole 3 day stay with him in Vegas right when all this started going down(recordings etc).

Wait...3 day stay in Vegas?? I must have missed something big-time.
Also, someone mentioned that KN trashed DR today...Deanna??

 

[AZlawyer]

I was at the Ct App today and just speed-read the last thread. Wow. Here were the themes, right? (1) Why does Juan say we were trashing Travis? We would never do that. Although it's true that Travis was an abusive, manipulative, pedophile who played with the hearts of mentally ill young girls. (2) Don't get distracted! When you get into the jury room, I want you to listen to this sex tape and watch this *advertiser censored* video to really get focused on the issues.

 

[Tillicum]

i think it's possible that when they sit down and the gravity hits them they might grasp for something and Nurmi gave them something.

I agree (via Skye) JMO.

 

[LinasK]

I cannot for the life of me stay caught up. It took me until 12:45 to catch up from yesterday's thread! So of course I was behind again today since trial started at 11:30 for me. Just took a shower and ya'll are already on page 7. I have a Dr.'s appointment in 25 minutes :gaah:

Thanks to all who tweeted today! My thanks button has a mind of it's own, and I don't have the patience to refresh after each post. If you posted and I didn't thank you, it wasn't for lack of me trying!!! My button CHOOSES who I can thank :smile:

Gotta go and I.don't.want.to!

Oh, HLN is discussing the sniper trial ~ I wish they would at least have a verdict box on the bottom of the screen.....but noooooooooooooo Somebody needs to tell Arias that she is NOT relevant anymore . She absolutely could have gave her little presentation or even testified in open court cause nobody cares anymore. I bet she'll be looking for MK right now, because she's wanting to do an interview. Oh my bad. I forgot the camera's and people make her too nervous. Gotta go, Frigga, save me a seat!!!!!

Expand your post limit to 200 posts/page. I'm still on page 1. Not as many pages to scroll through that way.

 

[Davia18]

I was at the Ct App today and just speed-read the last thread. Wow. Here were the themes, right? (1) Why does Juan say we were trashing Travis? We would never do that. Although it's true that Travis was an abusive, manipulative, pedophile who played with the hearts of mentally ill young girls. (2) Don't get distracted! When you get into the jury room, I want you to listen to this sex tape and watch this *advertiser censored* video to really get focused on the issues.

Yes ma'am you just summed that right up.

 

[PandaJ]

I was at the Ct App today and just speed-read the last thread. Wow. Here were the themes, right? (1) Why does Juan say we were trashing Travis? We would never do that. Although it's true that Travis was an abusive, manipulative, pedophile who played with the hearts of mentally ill young girls. (2) Don't get distracted! When you get into the jury room, I want you to listen to this sex tape and watch this *advertiser censored* video to really get focused on the issues.

Perfect summation.

 

[Smarty Jones]

Sole of the foot. I have plantar fasciitis after tearing the tendon in my foot and it's an awful gnawing pain. She deserves it.

I vote for a case of 'frozen shoulder' in her left shoulder.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/frozen-shoulder-topic-overview

I'm in the last stage of recovery, it's very painful, and takes many months to heal. Jodi won't be able to write or draw, er trace.

:boohoo:

 

[sammie]

"...and I wish, I wish so badly that I could just do that whole day over again." ~ Killer's super secret testimony regarding June 4, 2008

Translation: Sure wish I could do that over and over again. It was so debasing. I like it.

Is it me or did CMJA go out of her way to never utter the 2 words I'M SORRY? :thinking:

 

[samspace070]

Just wondering, did you all ever offer to let her try and change your minds? Sometimes having to explain yourself makes a person see things differently. It will highlight the things they're letting their emotions and not the facts dictate.

Your experience reminds me of what my son described his experience to be. He was one of six who wanted a guily verdict in a trial (not murder) and six didn't. One was an older woman who wouldn't budge. She said she could stay there forever because she was a homemaker. My son informed her three of the guilty members worked for the government and could also stay as long as it took and the other three (himself included) worked for companies that paid a full days pay for their service no limit. The other five not guilties put pressure on the old housewife to relent and vote guilty to get out of there. She was not a happy camper and told my son as they left the courtroom, she would remember him. He said he hoped she would and laughed.

Lets just hope we don't have another old woman who won't budge or another wm zervako's.

 

[AZlawyer]

Yes ma'am you just summed that right up.

Well then. JA may get death after all.

BTW I realized I know the names of some 9-year-old girls. I will head out to the mall and look for some pamphlets to help me with this problem right after work.

 

[grammieto5]

OMG-- is that the <modsnip> Donovan? WTH...

I thought Donovan was a female?