When the CMJA claimed PTSD as her defense I cringed..a lot....when I look @ GZ I see PTSD JMO
Absolutely. I see self-defense and PTSD.
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When the CMJA claimed PTSD as her defense I cringed..a lot....when I look @ GZ I see PTSD JMO
Is that a general you?
Whether or not he wants to be a cop actually has nothing to do with this case.
I heard he thought Trayvon was with cousin, and Trayvon was not identified for 3 days...but don't know where I read that.
And don't forget the former Sanford Police Choef who was summarily dismissed..he I betcha has a suit in the air..Looks like FL will be seeing some law suits...
I agree with you Knicksgal, this guy should never have gone after him in the first place, no cause. He seems to think he's a cop and a racist one at that !
Hi MeeBee,
I did not bold that "you", I promise. I am on an iPad and don't know how to bold anything. :scared:
Yes, I was speaking in general.:seeya:
The sound on the non emergency recorded call continues for several seconds after Zimmerman says OK. Then the sound stops before Zimmerman is off the phone with the dispatcher. So why did the sound stop, if it was "wind" as some have claimed, if Zimmerman was not in his truck? The dispatcher also asked for an address as to where Zimmerman was before Zimmerman was out of his truck, yet Zimmerman claims that he was simply looking for an address to give instead of following Trayvon who "ran" towards the back gate.
MOO
You're right. I forgot to add. IMO, following someone in your car, then following the on foot, then running after them is harassment. The point was he wasn't doing anything but walking around. No crime in that. Yet that didn't stop captain neighborhood watch from repeatedly calling TM a suspect. How many of those other calls to NEN did he follow? What was he going to do when he "caught" TM?
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I too have wondered how much of the incident she really heard.
To be so traumatized about this to the point that you don't tell a single person, and resist the police investigation so vehemently along the way is telling. It feels more to me like she is hiding something rather than just grieving.
If anybody has the phone record details, or can point us in the right direction, that would be great.
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Sunny, I didn't originally post this, I was responding to someone who posted it - who has since said it was a misunderstanding of a news broadcast.
IMHO
Now that the State of Florida has stand your ground, self defense claims have tripled in courts. IMO
Ill will to offender profile?? ah, no...
imo
You're right. I forgot to add. IMO, following someone in your car, then following the on foot, then running after them is harassment. The point was he wasn't doing anything but walking around. No crime in that. Yet that didn't stop captain neighborhood watch from repeatedly calling TM a suspect. How many of those other calls to NEN did he follow? What was he going to do when he "caught" TM?
It's in his recorded conversation with 911...
My main point of my original post was that there is no proof for either person starting the fight.
IMO, TM was defending himself....in your opinion, GZ was.
I'm just saying neither scenario is proven fact.
If you watch the re-enactment, GZ says TM sucker punched (my words) him at the T and he stumbled back and fell. Although he doesn't state he got back up he obviously did b/c he said they continued down the dog walk path and TM (again my words) was still trying to start an altercation, and GM continued to push him away trying to keep a distance between them.
I've been trying to avoid getting involved in this discussion, and the reason I'm posting this is because this morning I was wondering too about how the ear buds and phone ended where they did. So, from the re-enactment, GZ only states he went down at the T and doesn't say that TM mounted him at that point but that it kept esculating as they proceeded down the dog walk.
MOO
For the record, you can follow at a distance. Not trying to bash your post or your opinion in any way, but one can easily follow someone to report their activities to dispatch. Also when one takes into consideration the two people in question, I find it hard to believe TM couldn't outrun GZ if he wished to. Of course we will never know who was running, who was walking, or if one hid in the shadows or in a bush to ambush the other, with any degree of certainty.