Victim - Melissa Barthelemy

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

OK, you asked and now you shall receive. A PERFECT example of a RICO case can be found in the Suffolk County DA office and parts of the SCPD. Those two agencies are aligned to commit crimes, hide crimes, and to subvert the criminal justice system in furtherance of their own criminal enterprises.

A prominent newsman told me so time ago he had in friend in the criminal justice system. He asked him if he ever read my blogs. To my shock and surprise this man ( I don't know who he/she is) said they did and added almost EVERYTHING I have been saying about Tom Spota and his little friends is true. He added my comment that Spota has 'criminalized' the SCPD was spot-on. Now this was a few years before Spota had Jim Burke appointed to be the Chief of Department.

Now that is a RICO in every sense of the word. A great irony of this is that the author of RICO: G.Robert Blakey, that man that took down organized crime has a son working for Spota. Why such a great public figure would have a son working for a outfit is a mystery to me. BTW, the son isn't a bad guy.

Ok. Thank you for the explanation.

You are generalizing when you call an entire police department a fowl or foul curse word.

Is that really necessary?

I know, and you know, or maybe you don't know, that there are some terrific men who have
worked on the case looking for Megan when she was missing.

An entire crew of detectives was sent out to search for her and detectives went up to Maine
to talk to the family of Megan.

As much as you HATE SCPD, there is a lot on this case that you just don't know because
you don't know people on the case.

Just hate your boyfriend Jimmy - and stay there...but I'm telling you, there are some
really serious genuine men on this case that care!!!!!!

 

[Emre E]

I know, and you know, or maybe you don't know, that there are some terrific men who have
worked on the case looking for Megan when she was missing.

An entire crew of detectives was sent out to search for her and detectives went up to Maine
to talk to the family of Megan.

I don't hate SCPD, I don't even know who they are. I'm not a big fan of cops though. But I do despise people who habitually fail.

Here's a question.


Fact: Megan's phone was in the room

1) When police searched the hotel room they found Waterman's makeup, clothing, cell phone and other belongings, [Lorraine] Ela said.
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-mega...s-near-li-beach-mother-submits-dna-to-police/

2) She left the hotel around 1:30 a.m. on June 6 without a wallet, money or identification, police said.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704828104576021953580016630



Fact: Megan's phone wasn't in the room
1) Vybe called the next morning. “I’ve been to the hotel, she’s not there, her phone’s not there, nothing’s there.”
2) “Megan’s [phone] hasn’t been found, neither,” said Lorraine [Ela].
Source: Lost Girls, Robert Kolker

What's the fact about Megan's phone? What changes?


My explanation is below:

SCPD has no intention to move a finger. On the contrary they embellish the case with total bull... because they don't want to solve anything, because these girls are nothing but poor prostitutes.

When Megan is missing Ela's points of contact are Robert Moulton, chief of the Scarborough, Maine, Police Department and Scarborough Police Detective Don Blatchford...

Scarborough police.. And they get the information from SCPD. And the phone is in the room.

When the Gilgo case breaks Ela's contact is directly SCPD and suddenly the phone disappears... or she's being lied to, just to bury the case under smoke with even more horse s..t.

By Mid December 2010 (at the times of the news story when Ela says phone is in the room), SCPD hasn't figured the picture yet. But it is going for a disaster. Only they haven't launched their damage control plan yet. It seems to me that the DA and Police are in collusion.



What is the explanation if mine sounds incorrect?

Or in other words, what sentence do you think John Bitrolff or Leah Cuevas will get? I think there's a good chance both will plead out. What do you think?

 

[giagreen]

CPD has no intention to move a finger. On the contrary they embellish the case with total bull... because they don't want to solve anything, because these girls are nothing but poor prostitutes.

Idk they are victims of a serial killer now. That's something you'd think they'd want to solve. Who ever gets that type of chance?
They were just poor prostitutes when they went missing. And even if LE cared deeply they still can't make the media care. Hell there are babies and toddlers missing and nobody cares. There was a dismembered baby found in Chicago and nobody cares. Idk sometimes I think LE and familys of the missing get to much crap about some things they can't control.

And when you look back on other serial killers some where never caught. Some took years and years to find but they still found em so they must of been lookin after all.

 

[Emre E]

Who ever gets that type of chance?

That's the question of an idealist mind.

I don't think these people are idealists. Whether or not they solve the case(s), they will still be the members of one of the highest paying PDs.

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/11/obscenely_high_police_salaries_wheres_the_political_outrage/

 

[hawkshaw]

If you fully read the post you are questioning you would have seen in the very first sentence I said, "......parts of the PD......' and not the entire PD. If you read my other posts you would have seen me saying that most detectives on this case would give their right arm to solve it. Not for any reason than a professional taking pride in what they do. You would have also seen me write that the SCPD is very capable of solving this case if it is solvable.

Sorry, TKAMBIRD.....but I think I have plenty of experience as a former detective and certainly have a lot of experience on how the SCPD works.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I am looking to try to find news articles bout Melissa before the gilgo girls were found. Here the NYPD blotter report about her disappearance: http://nypost.com/2009/07/24/nypd-daily-blotter-2567/

Melissa went missing July 12, there is something about this week in July. According to this article "Fitzpatrick said Taylor was turning tricks from July 18 to 21 near the Port Authority Bus Terminal in Manhattan" http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/mutilation-failed-hide-body-id-article-1.575714

"“He kept us hopeful,” she said at the time. But in an interview on Wednesday, she said the man’s last call — which occurred at about 1 a.m. on Aug. 26, 2009, and lasted about 40 seconds — had confirmed the family’s worst fears." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/n...ay-offer-insight-into-serial-killer.html?_r=0

There must be a way to search the buffalo news archives around august 2009 to see when it was reported the killer was using her cell phone. Here is story in the village voice about Melissa missing along with a man named Bernardo Callero who disappeared the same month. Can anyone find if he's been found? Not that he matches any descriptions I know of, but could he be one of the males victims? He also wen missing form the Bx.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/missing-persons-melissa-barthelemy-24-bernardo-calero-66-6721219

Someone else pointed this out already but Aug 26 2009, the date of the last phone call Britney Spears was playing MSG. The killer seems to frequent Penn often so I'm not saying he was a concert-goer, but it is strange that the police have described some calls as coming from MSG (I think). What makes them say MSG as opposed to Penn?

 

[deedee21]

Penn Station and MSG share the same address. Its possible LE referred to both of them.

 

[Theforeigner]

I am looking to try to find news articles bout Melissa before the gilgo girls were found. Here the NYPD blotter report about her disappearance: http://nypost.com/2009/07/24/nypd-daily-blotter-2567/

Melissa went missing July 12, there is something about this week in July. According to this article "Fitzpatrick said Taylor was turning tricks from July 18 to 21 near the Port Authority Bus Terminal in Manhattan" http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/mutilation-failed-hide-body-id-article-1.575714

"“He kept us hopeful,” she said at the time. But in an interview on Wednesday, she said the man’s last call — which occurred at about 1 a.m. on Aug. 26, 2009, and lasted about 40 seconds — had confirmed the family’s worst fears." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/n...ay-offer-insight-into-serial-killer.html?_r=0

There must be a way to search the buffalo news archives around august 2009 to see when it was reported the killer was using her cell phone. Here is story in the village voice about Melissa missing along with a man named Bernardo Callero who disappeared the same month. Can anyone find if he's been found? Not that he matches any descriptions I know of, but could he be one of the males victims? He also wen missing form the Bx.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/missing-persons-melissa-barthelemy-24-bernardo-calero-66-6721219

Someone else pointed this out already but Aug 26 2009, the date of the last phone call Britney Spears was playing MSG. The killer seems to frequent Penn often so I'm not saying he was a concert-goer, but it is strange that the police have described some calls as coming from MSG (I think). What makes them say MSG as opposed to Penn?

On Page 44 and post #648 in this thread I have posted the info you are looking for:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...im-Melissa-Barthelemy&p=11994261#post11994261

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Thanks I forget all about that post! Very helpful!! It says the calls to Terry the caller says "you do some crazy **** with melissa" what does that mean? Sex stuff?

 

[cincygirl]

Maybe the caller saw pictures on the phone of Terry and Melissa in sex acts? That's how he knew about the tattoos and they liked to do crazy stuff?. I also think he he contacted Terry so he could feel like he was in control of Melissa and Terry was not any longer.

 

[deedee21]

Lindsay, Was MB found with a noose around her neck? Can you be mistaken about that? I saw a photo of remains that looked like it was laying on top of a branch. It was the same color as the surrounding branches.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I don't remember saying that so I have no idea. Peter Brendt ahem I mean Emre said in the other thread not me. Dormer did hint that ligatures were found in the arrow videos but he didn't straight up say it. One thing I will say is that some of the males were found with Ligatures, like the brentwood teenager who had a blanket ligature still around his neck, and another victim I saw recently on the namus but I forget who. It is strange why the killer would leave the ligature and jewelry and says a lot but exactly what I'm unsure. I bring this up all the time but no one ever acknowledges it. Why would you leave the jewelry on Jane Does, Toddler and Lattingtown, and why would you leave the ligatures on the victims? Three reason I can think of...one the killer was in a rush to dump the bodies and they were dumped immediately after they will killed...two the killer likes to revisit and the jewelry/ligatures are part of his fetish...or three the killer is very low intelligence, he's an idiot who doesn't realize or care that the jewelry can be used to ID the victims, which goes with number 2 revisiting he may prioritize his fantasy over the risk of getting caught

 

[Emre E]

Peter Brendt ahem I mean Emre

What does that mean?

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Just jerkin your chain

 

[Emre E]

Don't.

There are two people on this forum using their actual names and such innuendos are really unnecessary and unpleasant.

 

[deedee21]

Thanks I forget all about that post! Very helpful!! It says the calls to Terry the caller says "you do some crazy **** with melissa" what does that mean? Sex stuff?

I wish we knew more about these calls to both Amanda and JT.

 

[deedee21]

mvieu's youtube channel. Video called Our Family Vigil. The video shows Megans and Mellissa's crosses next to each other. According to maps we've seen, MB was found west of MBB. And Megan was found east of MBB.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I have a theory about the killer. He used the term half-breed when talking to Melissa's sister. Melissa lived on Underhill Avenue in the bronx. I believe this street is named for Captain John "The Indian Killer" Underhill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_John_Underhill "The Indians on Long Island built a fort called Fort Neck in what is now Massapequa. Underhill attacked and burned the Massapequan fort, killing about 120 Indians" Fort Neck is south of Sunrise Highway where the hotels Melissa checked her voicemail from are located. A connection...or a coincidence? But there's more.....

Killingworth... www.oldlongisland.com/2010/11/underhill-farm.html
the Lattingtown estate of John Underhill. Located at 34 Bayville Rd, Lattingtown NY. Take a look at this location on a map. It's RIGHT NEXT to Sheep Ln where the female was found with the pig necklace. Another spooky coincidence or perhaps something more meaningful and sinister

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Obviously there are some historical figures who's influence is so strong that traces of them will be found all over New York. But there is another instance of a possible historical connection to the dump site's street names. Jessica Taylor was dumped on Halsey Manor Rd. In 2002 partial skeletal remains of a male were found on the beach at Halsey Neck Rd. https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/7879

The Halsey family were a prominent LI family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halsey_House_(Southampton,_New_York)

Could the SK be a Long Island historian?

 

[Robert Anderson]

"The police have disclosed someone has my daughter," said the Barthemely's mother. "But I can't disclose more, but someone has my daughter."

Thanks for the link. This comment is fascinating. To me, this implies some possibility that Melissa was indeed still alive when LISK initially called her sister.

http://www.ny1.com/archives/nyc/all-boroughs/2009/09/06/missing-buffalo-native-last-seen-in-the-bronx-NYC_105331.old.html