WHAT Has Been Said & By WHOM... That Baffles You? (aka Oh No They Didn't!)

[lala]

Horace, I have believed, up until I saw Cindy on the stand say what you quoted, that she was being deceptive on purpose. Something changed for me (hope no one slipped me Kool-Aid) but I am leaning heavily toward believing that Cindy is in a massive state of denial. I know, it sounds crazy and hard to believe, but I've never been where she is so I can't say I wouldn't be the same if I were in her shoes. I know Cindy has brought a lot of this on herself by thrusting herself in the media spotlight but I do feel for her now.

ETA: Sorry for the O/T- I do think Cindy saying "I still believe Caylee is alive" was very bizarre. Anyone rooted in reality knows that (sadly) those tiny remains were Caylee's.

I believe she's using "denial" as her cover. She knows exactly what went down and the only way to get sympathy is to "act" as if she were in denial. The whole "we are united as a family", "we stand behind each other no matter what"...it's all bizzare. The whole family is bizzare. I wouldn't be able to come up with just one quote by any of them. The parents are twisted...and both of their kids have this false sense of love and security and have turned into strange, bizzare creatures. One of them so much so that she was capable of murdering an innocent child. They're all sick.

 

[Snaz]

Remember when Macaluso was still around (I think, anyway) and someone from the defense made a statement, something to the effect that there was a picture of Zanny and Caylee, and they were in the process of getting it? Nothing further was EVER mentioned regarding the alleged picture of Zanny to my knowledge.... and no one ever asked any of the defense attorneys about it.

Of course, we all know there is NO picture of Zanny, but I wish someone would have followed up on that statement....

 

[countzero]

Baffles isn't the word but boggles sure is ..... After Caylee was found and the make shift memorial was created, I was blown away that the As and Milfords would actually go there in the cover of darkness to destroy it. Got caught too, bringing a hammer and all.

Then there is the memorial service where CA had DC actually create a list with photos and descriptions of people NOT allowed to enter the church. Then LAs turn to speak. All of CAs rubbing of men.

Then the time at the park where they torn down the signs.

Sheeze. .. control freaks at their finest....not.

 

[seagull65]

George : The body in the back of my daughters car is not my Granddaughter !!! How many dead bodies has she had???

I never understood why LE didn't look into this more anyway, i.e. the "nanny" is missing too, so.....
One of the only reasons I could think of for Casey not talking (if she was innocent of harming Caylee), (besides if she is just crazy and in la-la land) might be if someone else had been killed, like if she or somone on her behalf had killed the person who killed Caylee for example. Or if there had been gang or drug business going on and someone had been killed and Caylee's murder was retribution for that. I know it sounds pretty bizarre, but like this case isn't bizarre already? Why not go on out on the limb and check out these things, you know. LOL.

But, it was a bizarre sounding kind of statement, I agree. I couldn't understand why he wasn't at least questioned about that really!

 

[seagull65]

What else really got me was how much she wanted TonE phone number during that initial phone call....

I know. That was chilling. Just give me his number, etc. That was all she cared about. Nothing else existed. Her totally flat tone of voice, too. She sounded like a junkie to me. She looked like a junkie in that time frame, too, the completely vacant/wide-eyed facial expression etc.
And why would they know his number, better than she did? I never got that. She'd been living with this guy for the past month. Why would they know his number at all? Weird all around.

 

[notthatsmart]

I never understood why LE didn't look into this more anyway, i.e. the "nanny" is missing too, so.....
One of the only reasons I could think of for Casey not talking (if she was innocent of harming Caylee), (besides if she is just crazy and in la-la land) might be if someone else had been killed, like if she or somone on her behalf had killed the person who killed Caylee for example. Or if there had been gang or drug business going on and someone had been killed and Caylee's murder was retribution for that. I know it sounds pretty bizarre, but like this case isn't bizarre already? Why not go on out on the limb and check out these things, you know. LOL.

But, it was a bizarre sounding kind of statement, I agree. I couldn't understand why he wasn't at least questioned about that really!

I think in his state of mind at that time, and being former LE, someone from LE convinced him that there had been a dead body in the car, when in fact there is no proof of that. Now after all the docs are out and we see there is no smoking gun showing a dead body in the car, you don't see Ga saying anything like that. I think in one of his interviews he states that he does not know who to believe anymore. That is all just my opinion, and in the heat of the moment he said something that he prolly now regrets. IMO

 

[seagull65]

CC's description of how Caylee was supposedly "already into boys", and how he had given her a "little duckie cape" that he had, and that he'd been wearing around apparently, for her to wear one of the days when she was at their apartment & pool.

And TL's weird comments after his polygraph. He was going on in a very weird way about how he (TL) should never have daughters, because he wouldn't have any bad-looking daughters (or something bizarre along those lines).

TL's early texts to Casey where he's calling her a b****, very soon after meeting her.

just to name a few strange and baffling ones that spring to mind

 

[whiteangora]

I never understood why LE didn't look into this more anyway, i.e. the "nanny" is missing too, so.....
One of the only reasons I could think of for Casey not talking (if she was innocent of harming Caylee), (besides if she is just crazy and in la-la land) might be if someone else had been killed, like if she or somone on her behalf had killed the person who killed Caylee for example. Or if there had been gang or drug business going on and someone had been killed and Caylee's murder was retribution for that. I know it sounds pretty bizarre, but like this case isn't bizarre already? Why not go on out on the limb and check out these things, you know. LOL.

But, it was a bizarre sounding kind of statement, I agree. I couldn't understand why he wasn't at least questioned about that really!

bbm
Doesn't someone have to actually exist before they can be considered missing?

 

[seagull65]

could be, notthatsmart. The police did seem to really want GA and CA to agree with their theory. I never got that.

 

[Purple Iris]

Someone already said the one about George telling a TV Crew that "they" had the kidnappers under survielance, that they know she has been moved possibly up to 9 times, and he SMIRKS when saying it ~!!!!

Then, his remark in the driveway to Richard Grund, that Casey may have finally crossed someone that didn't count on getting back at her, or to that effect.
But, he wouldn't go anymore in to it with Mr. Grund.

 

[seagull65]

bbm
Doesn't someone have to actually exist before they can be considered missing?

LE never seemed to consider the possibility that this person might actually have existed and might be missing, that is true. Because Casey was unable to provide coherent information, contact information, addresses etc, to substantiate the nanny/babysitter.

But if I were LE in this case and someone made a statement like "the dead body that was in my daughter's car was not my granddaughter", I think I would probably be asking a few questions

I mean I assume he was just very flustered and misspoke but you know what they say about assuming

 

[Purple Iris]

LE never seemed to consider the possibility that this person might actually have existed and might be missing, that is true. Because Casey was unable to provide coherent information, contact information, addresses etc, to substantiate the nanny/babysitter.

But if I were LE in this case and someone made a statement like "the dead body that was in my daughter's car was not my granddaughter", I think I would probably be asking a few questions

Yep, darn straight.

George would have had an early morning visit the next day, if not that night after the evening news to ask him about his statement.

"What do you mean George. Is there another dead body out there somewhere that we don't know about, or, did you just get your words jumbled up in your anger?"

Tell us George....

 

[Trapshooter]

I think in his state of mind at that time, and being former LE, someone from LE convinced him that there had been a dead body in the car, when in fact there is no proof of that. Now after all the docs are out and we see there is no smoking gun showing a dead body in the car, you don't see Ga saying anything like that. I think in one of his interviews he states that he does not know who to believe anymore. That is all just my opinion, and in the heat of the moment he said something that he prolly now regrets. IMO

How did LE influence GA to think there had been a dead body in the car??? GA stated that he was saying "please don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter" when he smelled the trunk at the tow yard! I don't believe any LE were present yet? :waitasec:

 

[seagull65]

Baffles isn't the word but boggles sure is ..... After Caylee was found and the make shift memorial was created, I was blown away that the As and Milfords would actually go there in the cover of darkness to destroy it. Got caught too, bringing a hammer and all.

really? That really is very strange.

 

[Dear Prudence]

LE never seemed to consider the possibility that this person might actually have existed and might be missing, that is true. Because Casey was unable to provide coherent information, contact information, addresses etc, to substantiate the nanny/babysitter.

But if I were LE in this case and someone made a statement like "the dead body that was in my daughter's car was not my granddaughter", I think I would probably be asking a few questions

I mean I assume he was just very flustered and misspoke but you know what they say about assuming

bbm - I do not think this is true at all. LE looked for this person in their computer databases based on the info KC gave them. They showed pictures to KC for identification and they went to all known addresses provided by KC and what came up in the database. That's how they found the Zenaida that currently has a civil lawsuit against KC.

 

[seagull65]

How did LE influence GA to think there had been a dead body in the car??? GA stated that he was saying "please don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter" when he smelled the trunk at the tow yard! I don't believe any LE were present yet? :waitasec:

true that he said his first fear was that it could be either Casey or Caylee in the trunk, but after finding no body or evidence of a body and seeing the garbage in the trunk I think he convinced himself it must be from the garbage.

But later I think the LE urged/encouraged him to agree with their theory that it was in fact the smell from a body, don't you think, from watching the interviews?

 

[Trapshooter]

true that he said his first fear was that it could be either Casey or Caylee in the trunk, but after finding no body or evidence of a body and seeing the garbage in the trunk I think he convinced himself it must be from the garbage.

But later I think the LE urged/encouraged him to agree with their theory that it was in fact the smell from a body, don't you think, from watching the interviews?

Seagull, no I don't think that is what happened, respectfully. I remember GA's interview with LE and GA kind of "bragging" that he was former LE and he "knew" that smell and said "it's one you never forget". I don't think LE encouraged GA in any way whatsoever.

 

[Purple Iris]

really? That really is very strange.

Yes, tis true.

The Milsteads showed up, complete with a portable siren/flashing lights attached to the top of their car and gave chase to the 2 women.

The women took a picture of George behind the wheel of the Anthony car chasing after them also.

 

[RR0004]

true that he said his first fear was that it could be either Casey or Caylee in the trunk, but after finding no body or evidence of a body and seeing the garbage in the trunk I think he convinced himself it must be from the garbage.

But later I think the LE urged/encouraged him to agree with their theory that it was in fact the smell from a body, don't you think, from watching the interviews?

I don't think George needed any convincing...he knew. It was his wife he needed to convince otherwise. What did Cindy say..."It was the garbage George, right?" (my words)

 

[notthatsmart]

How did LE influence GA to think there had been a dead body in the car??? GA stated that he was saying "please don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter" when he smelled the trunk at the tow yard! I don't believe any LE were present yet? :waitasec:

I'm going with the body farm report. IMO When he said that please don't let this be my daughter or grand daughter, it wasn't, it was trash. IMO Everyone went back to work. . IMO No one called 911, so no one took that smell as anything but trash in my opinion. However, the body farm report could have indeed influenced him. IMO, but after further investigation, it was just another dead end, IMO.