16 LOU SMIT: If I might just make a couple
17 comments on that. You know, I've been here like
18 for 16 (INAUDIBLE) and it appears as though the
19 investigation focuses on two areas: the Ramseys
20 and on an intruder.
21 JOHN RAMSEY: Um hmm.
22 LOU SMIT: And I know that a lot of work
23 has been done in regards to you. But see, John, I
24 have to stick up for the Boulder Police Department
25 a little bit. I don't know what all personally
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1 went with you. But they initially focused on you
2 because of certain things that happened in the
3 house and that they found. And you were in the
4 house. So, as a detective, I myself would have
5 probably have done that. I would have probably
6 said, (Wait a minute, I got to put you on the
7 front burner, John.̃ And I gotta do that.
8 So, in fairness to them, I think that they
9 started off doing what detectives do. They take
10 the most logical thing that's happened. You were
11 there; there were strange circumstances that
12 occurred and we'll get into these here a little
13 bit later. And so they would focus on you
14 initially. And I would. I'd do the same thing. And
15 I'd concentrate my investigation on you. And
16 really, what detectives do, they aren't supposed
17 to make judgments. What they are supposed to do is
18 to focus on an area of the investigation and
19 collect and record information. That's what
20 detectives do. That's all we're supposed to do.
21 Then we're supposed to take this information to a
22 prosecutor or to other people that evaluate this
23 information. And then they make a determination as
24 to whether there will be charges filed.
25 So really, as detectives, even on the Boulder
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1 Police Department, that's what they were doing
2 initially, is gathering information. And, sure,
3 they gathered a whole lot of it. And, John, on
4 this area, there's going to be way more
5 information gathered.
6 But that's how I would look at it. It's
7 information. I'm not going conclude that you're
8 guilty because of this. And I'm not going to
9 conclude that an intruder is guilty. I'm going to
10 collect information and then let other people
11 evaluate that. What do you say to that?
12 JOHN RAMSEY: We are comfortable with that.
13 We never objected to being looked at. We
14 understand that, logically, we were in the house.
15 Okay. We accept that in an objective
16 investigation. What became concerning to us is,
17 our investigators, you know, had a tip line;
18 they'd get calls, you know. I tried to call the
19 Boulder police for five days for a month. They
20 won't return my call. I have a lead, you know. I'm
21 anxious to tell someone.
22 I lost count of the number of times that happened.
23 It started to occur to us that they're just
24 blowing off the other inputs on this. You know,
25 they're so focused on the Ramseys that nothing
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1 else is getting looked at. We said early on,
2 (Look, you're spending too much time on us. Look
3 elsewhere as well and we'll be fine.̃ But we never
4 got comfortable that there was anything going on
5 but a 100 percent focus on the Ramseys.
6 LOU SMIT: No, John, just from looking at
7 the case report, and again, in respect of the
8 police department, they have looked into other
9 areas. I know that there's been a lot of focus on
10 you, but I looked at every one of those reports.
11 There's been a lot of work done in other ways. And
12 I know from your perception it seems like that --
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah.
14 LOU SMIT: -- but they have done a lot of
15 work.
16 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, and I say, we may be
17 totally wrong and owe a lot of apologies, but what
18 I want to do is just frame what our perception is
19 so you understand.
