I am not into all details on this one, so i alerted my fellow mods to confirm
The next day? There was one two weeks later -- that's the one I recall.
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I am not into all details on this one, so i alerted my fellow mods to confirm
that's what I thought at the time, just new carpet. now I just wonder if maybe LE at least cut a large section out that was protected that maybe we didn't see
I do as well because I am unsure sometimes so am using an overabundance of caution lately.
Where is this child? I have not even checked for updates yet today as I guess I have gotten so used to seeing nothing new. People are frustrated. How a family deals with it all, I have no idea, it would be so difficult.
October 17thThe next day? There was one two weeks later -- that's the one I recall.
“Possible that she confided in an adult acquaintance”
that matches my line of thought this morning and if the adult acquaintance was at the Birthday Party and what Jayme confided made that person so angry that they went to Jaymes house with a gun and then lost control (a crime of rage) killing both parents.
Jayme is taken away by the person and placed in a safe place and no one knows where that safe place is (that would solve the mystery of why Jaymes relatives interviews sounded as if Jayme had the power to return home on her own)
There was the birthday party the perfect opportunity for Jayme to confide in someone and that someone talk to other people that would be concerned about Jayme.
I hope this doesn’t get deleted because it possibly answers three mysteries in this case.
1. Why the relatives interviews talked directly to Jayme instead of a possible kidnapper
2 The fast brutal killing of both parents show a crime of rage.
3. The time being night (after the birthday party) the crime happened.
There are at least two issues with naming names -- people who are minors and people can get hounded if named in all sorts of ways. There needs to be an abundance of caution for these instances.
As far as to what happened, I've said it already, I don't see any legitimate (non-space alien) theory that is out of bounds yet. Some are much less likely than others but not impossible.
They were, but the Sheriff said <when he did that PC or interview (Drydenwire) not sure> that they were going to take a more detailed look at the family's online activity among other things. Plus I know there were still some records from apps or others that they were awaiting from subpoenas.I thought all their phones and computers were checked out!
BBM - Even if said people have known warrants for their arrest? ( not minors, of course)There are at least two issues with naming names -- people who are minors and people can get hounded if named in all sorts of ways. There needs to be an abundance of caution for these instances.
As far as to what happened, I've said it already, I don't see any legitimate (non-space alien) theory that is out of bounds yet. Some are much less likely than others but not impossible.
I've been thinking about all the things that we know we don't know. The things that LE has that we know zero about. The 911 recording. The 80 security vids, and who knows how many more when the cam search was extended. Every speck of dandruff in that house. Access to the family. Piles of interviews from Turkeyland to churches and schools. I could go on and on. Add to that having FBI resources at your disposal. And what are we told about all this?
'Well golly gee, we don't know anything at all about any of this.'
At some point fairly early on, it seems as if a decision was made to go into radio silence about everything. Now, I understand that there may be legitimate reasons for such a strategy, but I'm not sure what those would be. What sort of scenarios do you guys think would support this approach?
I could guess that they are first and foremost concerned about Jayme's well being, which they should be, and perhaps they feel releasing any identifying info would immediately jeopardize her safety (perp killing himself and/or Jayme).I've been thinking about all the things that we know we don't know. The things that LE has that we know zero about. The 911 recording. The 80 security vids, and who knows how many more when the cam search was extended. Every speck of dandruff in that house. Access to the family. Piles of interviews from Turkeyland to churches and schools. I could go on and on. Add to that having FBI resources at your disposal. And what are we told about all this?
'Well golly gee, we don't know anything at all about any of this.'
At some point fairly early on, it seems as if a decision was made to go into radio silence about everything. Now, I understand that there may be legitimate reasons for such a strategy, but I'm not sure what those would be. What sort of scenarios do you guys think would support this approach?
That is the question of the year. I would guess that it has to do with jayme's well being. Her being found alive is the one thing that would definitely tie the perps to the murders.I've been thinking about all the things that we know we don't know. The things that LE has that we know zero about. The 911 recording. The 80 security vids, and who knows how many more when the cam search was extended. Every speck of dandruff in that house. Access to the family. Piles of interviews from Turkeyland to churches and schools. I could go on and on. Add to that having FBI resources at your disposal. And what are we told about all this?
'Well golly gee, we don't know anything at all about any of this.'
At some point fairly early on, it seems as if a decision was made to go into radio silence about everything. Now, I understand that there may be legitimate reasons for such a strategy, but I'm not sure what those would be. What sort of scenarios do you guys think would support this approach?
I've been thinking about all the things that we know we don't know. The things that LE has that we know zero about. The 911 recording. The 80 security vids, and who knows how many more when the cam search was extended. Every speck of dandruff in that house. Access to the family. Piles of interviews from Turkeyland to churches and schools. I could go on and on. Add to that having FBI resources at your disposal. And what are we told about all this?
'Well golly gee, we don't know anything at all about any of this.'
At some point fairly early on, it seems as if a decision was made to go into radio silence about everything. Now, I understand that there may be legitimate reasons for such a strategy, but I'm not sure what those would be. What sort of scenarios do you guys think would support this approach?
It could be a combination of your first two ideas. Maybe?I could guess that they are first and foremost concerned about Jayme's well being, which they should be, and perhaps they feel releasing any identifying info would immediately jeopardize her safety (perp killing himself and/or Jayme).
OR
They have a good idea who the perp(s) is but their whereabouts are unknown and are piecing the information together.
OR
They REALLY don't know who/what/why - Totally random
All JMO
I’ve considered so many theories so many times, I don’t even know what I think anymore. My biggest issue with this one is: I’ve seen a lot of arguments at the workplace (one where a guy went through a window). None ever resulted in a grudge like this. If somebody hated one of the Closs’ this much, you’d think it would have come up when LE interviews the employees. People usually don’t keep workplace grudges quite, and somebody’s been there long enough to remember one this big.I've been cramping my brain on this case and trying to poke holes in every theory, given the little info we have. At this time, the only possibility that makes sense to me is someone with a work grievance with one or both of the parents. Whatever the grievance, it could have happened some time ago, and the individual continued to burnish it in their mind. When a person's livelihood is involved, things can get very ugly. This is the best theory I can come up with.
If I were considering this possibility, I would look at who was dismissed or demoted from the turkey plant, and with a significant impact to their livelihood; even ten years ago. There can't be too many that fit this profile, I would hope.
No doubt LE has been exploring this from the get go. As far as Jayme is concerned, in this scenario, she was just another means to completely decimate this family. This just seems like revenge in my amateur opinion and speculation.
I’ve considered so many theories so many times, I don’t even know what I think anymore. My biggest issue with this one is: I’ve seen a lot of arguments at the workplace (one where a guy went through a window). None ever resulted in a grudge like this. If somebody hated one of the Closs’ this much, you’d think it would have come up when LE interviews the employees. People usually don’t keep workplace grudges quite, and somebody’s been there long enough to remember one this big.
I've been thinking about all the things that we know we don't know. The things that LE has that we know zero about. The 911 recording. The 80 security vids, and who knows how many more when the cam search was extended. Every speck of dandruff in that house. Access to the family. Piles of interviews from Turkeyland to churches and schools. I could go on and on. Add to that having FBI resources at your disposal. And what are we told about all this?
'Well golly gee, we don't know anything at all about any of this.'
At some point fairly early on, it seems as if a decision was made to go into radio silence about everything. Now, I understand that there may be legitimate reasons for such a strategy, but I'm not sure what those would be. What sort of scenarios do you guys think would support this approach?