I didn’t see any blood, either. Just saw strings hanging down from some corners of the seat.Can you post a picture? I didn't see any blood/red.
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I didn’t see any blood, either. Just saw strings hanging down from some corners of the seat.Can you post a picture? I didn't see any blood/red.
IKR. I still need to see a picture of it again.I didn’t see any blood, either. Just saw strings hanging down from some corners of the seat.
I noticed that while going through videos last night.
The whole scene just triggers my brain to jump to a violent home invasion scenario, with the Dad coming home and catching the suspects by surprise. But then, so many things just don't add up. If this were a home invasion case, why wasn't Jayme killed as well ? You already have 2 victims...what's one more ? Also, the family didn't appear well off to me, and I can't find any criminal history that might indicate the parents sold or even used drugs. If Jayme was the target, why all this violence ? You don't kill 2 people to take a kid, and you don't hang around after you have her.
My gut just screams that this was a home invasion and that we're all missing an important piece of the puzzle...but who knows ?
Which brings up another head-scratcher for me. The neighbor who heard the gunshots reported that the family moved into their home about 7 years ago ( she was estimating). So Jayme would have had this same caretaker since she was 6 . We know that the family moved in order to be closer to this caretaker. Am I the only one who finds that highly unusual ? To pack up and move your entire family, change your kids school and everything in order to follow a caregiver ? I don't have children, so I don't have a wealth of experience to draw on here, but I can't imagine doing all that to follow a caregiver, unless maybe it was a family member.
And they also have not stated what time the Sunday party was that Jayme and Mom attended.Neither LE nor MSM have ever stated what time the father got off work or got home.
I'm guessing because of proximity to the caretaker.What I find strange about this is that Riverview Middle School is actually much closer to the Closs home than Cameron Middle School.
I entered the school addresses and the home address into google maps; I'm not sure if this link will work:
Google Maps
Why wasn't Jayme originally enrolled in the school that was 2 miles from her house?
Did anyone ever nail down about how far apart they actually are? I have seen some estimates of about 500 yards.
For what it's worth, and admittedly, it's not worth much...while doing a street view drive, I noticed an ATV parked out in front of one of the neighbors houses, and it did give me a moment's pause. I'd never even considered an ATV until I saw that. Not saying it's a serious consideration to me now, mind you , but I did pause when I saw it.How they left is a mystery to me, too. Either they drove and fled by car or they left by foot. If they drove, where were they parked? If they were there before James came home, would he have seen their car? Would he have thought it was a familiar car and, as a result, not thought anything of it? Or, if it was unfamiliar, why did he not call 911 immediately? If they drove and went the direction opposite of the police station - either a lucky move or someone who knew the area well enough to guess which direction the police would be coming from. I am curious whether James was found in a direction that would indicate whether he was coming into the house or walking towards the door from inside. It would help piece together the night a little more... at least for me.
If they left by foot, where could they have gone and possibly hidden so well to not be found? And how could they drag a 13 year old girl with them that wouldn't slow them down?
I agree, which to me, says the two shots the neighbor heard were not the only two shots. Time of death would be incredibly helpful!
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Someone suggested this earlier and even speculated that an ATV traveled the railroad tracks as the get-away path.For what it's worth, and admittedly, it's not worth much...while doing a street view drive, I noticed an ATV parked out in front of one of the neighbors houses, and it did give me a moment's pause. I'd never even considered an ATV until I saw that. Not saying it's a serious consideration to me now, mind you , but I did pause when I saw it.
Welcome and No, we do not know, on the phone.Hello everyone! Long time lurker here coming out of hiding. I’m just following along and I have so many thoughts about this case. Honestly I have no idea though. So many thoughts that sway in all different directions! I hope LE gets to the bottom of this.
I do have one question though, I read something yesterday and I can’t find the article now. It said who’s phone called 911.
Do we know for sure who’s phone placed the 911 call?