AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

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Personally I think it’s safe to assume that abducting Jayme was not the goal. I think the trigger to her abduction was exactly this, somebody realized a 911 call had been placed and they needed to leave right now.

They had killed twice. Taking a hostage is a lot of work. Too much work unless the hostage is the reason for the home invasion and Jayme the target.

Well why not kill her right then? It sounds like the person was a good shot. It wouldn't have taken long to kill her and then leave. It's best to not leave a witness than to take one with you.

Yes I agree there would be no need to keep Jayme alive unless she was the reason for the home invasion. I don't think she was a 'second thought'.
 
They had killed twice. Taking a hostage is a lot of work. Too much work unless the hostage is the reason for the home invasion and Jayme the target.



Yes I agree there would be no need to keep Jayme alive unless she was the reason for the home invasion. I don't think she was a 'second thought'.
And I don’t think they kept her alive.
 
Does anybody happen to know how far it was to the parents work and also the casino? I'm thinking I read the casino was about 15 minutes down the road. Did the parents pass is on their way home from work? TIA
 
How restraining would being tied to a 10 pound item be? Even for a 13 year old, that chair weighs no more than a backpack full of school books. I've seen keys to gas-station men's rooms tethered to items heavier than that chair.
Good point but if I was restrained in a light-weight chair with a gun pointed at me, I'd sit still. Even if the suspect was in another room, I'd be afraid to awkwardly run with a chair tied to me knowing he'd hear me.
 
Some random thoughts. Jayme could have both been the target and perhaps also a grudge against the one of both parents. This person could have worked with her parents, or known from past activities(their high school years etc) or known to them in the community, and may not even be close to the family, but just someone thats knows of the family. They also may have developed a obsession/fondness for Jayme, perhaps from afar.
If LE had someone of genuine interest in custody, perhaps they would be asking more about establishing a timeline of that perp's actions, in the minutes hours, days, from the crime, not asking about who's currently been acting suspicious, and has grievances against the family. And if perp was in custody, they would be search parties out looking for her, because she's somewhere, and obviously not with him if he's in jail.
I find the number of sex offenders troubling. Are their group homes in town? One of the first days, I recall searching the register, and thought I had seen several offenders within the same address.
Is it common knowledge that Jenni-O has lax employment standards, and it is known, they can easily get jobs there? Or is JO working with a rehab facility, and its part of getting them back into the community in a positive way, by job offering. Which may account for the delayed written statement and lack of reward regarding their long time employees death. Only speculation, but I find it odd, there has not been a spokesperson from the company, out talking to the media more about what great longtime employees they were and such. I know sometime employers will tell employees not to talk to the media, but it seems like it's been unusually quiet from a PR standpoint. Not to be flippant, but its very close to Thanksgiving, and you would think they would want to position themselves better, in these circumstances.
Not to beat up on the poor neighbor(s), but their accounts/timeline could be wrong.
Isn't that somewhat typical of witnesses in general? They recall details wrong even if directly seeing them?
She looked at the clock. Was that with her glasses/contacts on? How dark was her room? Was she tired, had she taken medicine before bed, had alcohol in her system, etc? Is her clock a digital, or one with hands. Digital is much easier to read wrong, especially if you are looking at it, in bed, at an angle, and tired, or impaired. 3 can look like a 5, etc. Where were they coming home from at 12:15? No judgement, just may be a lot of holes of a witness account.
To me she's sounds honest, but flustered, and perhaps her timeline is off.
I completely think this is someone of knowledge of the area. Because of the known timeline of 911, the perp had little time to cleanly get away using HWY 8, may have utilized back/side roads. How would perp know for certain which direction LE was coming?
The apparent violent nature of the scene (eluded to by LE), and the brazeness of the crime, which is unusual, but not so different that some of the school type shootings, which makes me think, it's a loner, with a chip on their shoulder,(bullied or a sex assault survivor themselves) and is mad at the victims or the world, or both, and wanted Jayme. Maybe it's more random, but can't imagine going into a rural home, and ambush strangers, when there are easier prey other places where young people are, and not knowingly know what you're going into.
Hard to be invisible in a small community, if you're not a local.
If a door was indeed kicked in, as reported, this person has some strength, to them. So a loner with some muscles/strength, in addition to weapons.
I wish the FBI would come out and talk more about what they are looking for. People in town know who the members of the fringe are. Believe by their statement the other day about peoples patterns etc was very telling.
 
I am a long time viewer of WS and have not posted in a while. Having a background in LEO and having discussed this case with many local WI individuals from the area I believe it only helpful to write here what I have heard and surmised. I am from WI, not so far from Barron. I am deeply concerned about this being a sex trafficking or related case. The concern is partly based on my knowledge of the local area and the infiltration of drugs and illicit behavior in the area. Follow the money is a common and important statement. Where drugs go money is its direct roommate.

I have spoken to an individual who states that she is distant relation to the family. This person stated that Jamey was at a family event the day before the incident. <modsnip - rumor, not from allowed source>. We all should be aware of the dangers of the internet and social media activity for the young and innocent youth who may get caught up in things they do not expect, or even understand.

Did Jamey have an ongoing relationship with an individual or individuals from a social media site or any other sites? Barron is a small town of around 3300 people and it would not be surprising at all for youth in the area to have social media presences outside their parents knowledge base.

Did Jamey divulge her address or any details that would ultimately lead an assailant or assailants to her home?

Unfortunately one piece of evidence that would likely illuminate a pathway to answering these questions is currently nowhere to be found. That being Jamey's Cell phone. There are of course other ways for experienced investigators to locate digital information but the phone would be pivotal. The data on the cell phone is likely known to pose a risk to the suspect or suspects and so it may have been destroyed.

I really hope investigators locate a digital footprint that leads to Jamey being found alive. Bless her family and the community.

(Alas, I am already behind due to a long phone call). I was so involved in the Travis A. case I ended up having a dream about the perp and I have since tried dissociation but this case is really getting to me.

I am depressed at reading your post and am so hoping this is not a sex trafficking event. It is so hard to even contemplate what Jayme might be going through or been through already. I do not know why I keep gravitating to missing people except for the very fact of some kind of hope for life (alive).

Losing her parents all by itself is horrific. This is such a very sad situation. I know and feel that so many of you are no doubt feeling as I am.

I echo your hopes. And I wish young people would become more vigilant, be so very cautious of social media. My thoughts and prayers for Jayme and her loved ones.

all just my humble heartfelt opinions.
 
Does anybody happen to know how far it was to the parents work and also the casino? I'm thinking I read the casino was about 15 minutes down the road. Did the parents pass is on their way home from work? TIA
I believe Jenny O is four minutes from the house. Across from the PD.
 
My three trains of thought for the day are:

1) Gang/members druggies, maybe coming in from the city or another area
(This is not going to be a popular theory here I know, but considering the invasionary style and brutality this sounds similar to other gang crimes.)

2. Someone with a major grudge against the parents, (and/or possible interest in Jayme) from the Jennie-O plant, possibly past or present employee.

3. Pedophile catfish communicating with Jayme via online gaming, app or SM platform. If so LE has not found this trail yet or if so it is cold and anonymous.

—-of course there are other possibilities as well, unknown boyfriend, etc, etc.
 
I hate to say this, but home invasions on North side of Milwaukee are not an unusual event. 4 hours north in Barron is. I highly doubt the 2 are connected in any way.

Indeed I do realize this, but gangs do migrate into the suburbs to commit their crimes sometimes. I know because I was a victim of burglary by gang members who came in from the city. Thank goodness I wasn’t there at the time.

Just throwing out some different possibilities. Especially after reading in some of these invasions these monsters have no problem harming women and children, as linked above.
 
Let's for a moment rule out child abduction since you really don't need to bust down a door and shoot parents to abduct a child. So what are we left with? Robbery? If I was going to rob a house I think I would scope it out for people NOT at home and I wouldn't bust down a door (too loud) and carry a shotgun (an additional crime). So let's for a moment rule that out as well.

IMO somebody wanted the parent or parents dead. So why not kill the child as well....rather than risk leaving a witness alive?

<modsnip - not victim friendly> Maybe hangs around with not nice friends (perhaps older teens?) the parents don't approve of ? A troubled teen? (so she must attend the religious classes mentioned?). THIS could be why the radar online reports a source who thinks she is alive? There's just SO MUCH we do NOT know!
 
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I Can’t shake the feeling that the perp is known to the family - it seems very personal rather than random IF that is the case, could they have simply taken Jamie because they knew LE would soon arrive ( from the 911 call being made) and they did not want her to divulge their identity? Thoughts?
 
Missing Jayme Closs Was Home When Abductor Shot Her Parents Dead, Source Claims
By Radar Staff
Posted on Oct 19, 2018 @ 8:05AM

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“There is a report that someone allegedly knocked on the door and as the father went to answer it gunfire erupted through the door. That has not been confirmed yet as it’s an active investigation,” an FBI source exclusively told RadarOnline.com. [BBM]
[...]
“The mother appeared to have barricaded herself in the bathroom and called police,” added the insider, explaining that she was not able to reach the dispatcher before being killed.


It’s unclear what happened to Jayme when her parents were shot, but the FBI source said she was home during the altercation.
[...]

We pay for juicy info! Do you have a story for RadarOnline.com? ...

Missing Jayme Closs Was Home When Abductor Shot Her Parents Dead, Source Claims


ETA: Please consider the source of this information, and that no other additional MSM has reported this information. MOO
 
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Let's for a moment rule out child abduction since you really don't need to bust down a door and shoot parents to abduct a child. So what are we left with? Robbery? If I was going to rob a house I think I would scope it out for people NOT at home and I wouldn't bust down a door (too loud) and carry a shotgun (an additional crime). So let's for a moment rule that out as well.

IMO somebody wanted the parent or parents dead. So why not kill the child as well....rather than risk leaving a witness alive?

<modsnip - not victim friendly>Maybe hangs around with not nice friends (perhaps older teens?) the parents don't approve of ? A troubled teen? (so she must attend the religious classes mentioned?). THIS could be why the radar online reports a source who thinks she is alive? There's just SO MUCH we do NOT know!

At this time LE has indicated that Jayme is not a suspect and that she is in danger.
 
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