Sassafrass
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[check the Jon Benet Ramsey forum....]Just out of curiosity what’s the highest number of threads a case on Websleuths has had? This one is going for a record lol
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[check the Jon Benet Ramsey forum....]Just out of curiosity what’s the highest number of threads a case on Websleuths has had? This one is going for a record lol
Seems too little too late to me. He could be hours away from there by now. ImoInteresting - there's a helo looping around near where that last reporting witness stated seeing BL.
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Both Gabby and Brian seemed unreasonably fearful about the other running off with the van/phones, etc. Their fear seems out of proportion to the consequences if that had happened. They were staying in popular, heavily visited places. If one of them had left the other stranded, the only way a worst case scenario plays out is if they didn't ask for help. Anyone have any insight on this?
1,000% agree. MOO - Think the witness accounts, coupled with her refusing to walk away from her van, her phone, and her personal belongings in the van, put this clearly into focus. Then her own words on body cam 2 - she did not want to be separated even after all that occurred. She was just as terrified of being abandoned as she was being left alone to find her own way home. None the fear was out a love loss for or by him in MOO.I respectfully disagree. She had a very real terror of being abandoned, imo. I would be. Think about being her age, left out in the pitch black night all alone with no phone, no shelter, possibly near bears and other wild animals. Maybe some dangerous loner attacking and raping you. Every sound and movement terrifying. That tiny young girl. It was sadistic of him to repeatedly torture her that way, IMO. He DID put her in danger. That abuse from him is the major reason she was always so frightened and nervous, IMHO.
Just imagine being constantly terrified for your very safety.
I truly believe she could no longer endure the torture and threat.
I have always believed that poor Gabby was already dead when the YouTuber took that van video. Now that I have seen the crime scene I am not so sure.
BL is lazy. Would he really carry her dead weight all the way across the creek?
Idk, but it is absolutely evil what he did. All of this is just my honest opinion, nothing more.
I found this engineer to be very credible, too. I read the transcript provided by another Websleuther (thank you!!). He may be right and he may be wrong, but I believe he is convinced that the guy in the white truck was Brian Laundrie, and this sighting should be taken seriously. I thought the part about the profile was very interesting as well.
Now, as far as the truck driver's (BL?) demeanor and bizarre comments regarding California and taking the road he was on to get there, is it possible that BL could be dehydrated enough to exhibit such behavior? I'm not sure why a young, ambulatory man WITH transportation would allow himself to get that dehydrated, but I know the condition can cause some very confused and bizarre speech and actions. MOO
Interesting - there's a helo looping around near where that last reporting witness stated seeing BL.
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Thank you. What if she had become sick or hurt? I would have been terrified, praying for daylight.1,000% agree. MOO
is there a such thing as California, North Carolina?
(regarding the hysterical people yelling at BL's house as if he's inside)There are some people here on WS who think BL might still be inside his parents' house. That's how crazy this case is. <modsnip>, because if the FBI can't get to him inside that house (so far), and is behaving as if he isn't there, it's unlikely the randos with bullhorns and shouting are going to get the family to cooperate with LE.
I do think people like showing up in videos on Twitter, though. A lot. I used to follow a lot of celebrity trials and was amazed to show up for 1-2 days of trial watching or trial crowd watching if I couldn't get in, and see the same people - even if it was in a different state. I was taking notes (this was before cell phones) and had a little digital camera. I came up with names for these characters, so I could note how many times I saw them. Some of them just wouldn't quit and I'd see them on TV in other states, at another celebrity trial.
Crime groupies are a thing. There is crime tourism, for example.
I think a lot here would be surprised at the stories some of us could tell. I think that's why there is so much interest in the case and empathy for Gabby. A lot of us relate, more than we wish we did. IMOE
Can you tell whose chopper it is -- whether it's LE or news media?Interesting - there's a helo looping around near where that last reporting witness stated seeing BL.
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is there a such thing as California, North Carolina?
Interesting - there's a helo looping around near where that last reporting witness stated seeing BL.
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I lost my reply posts during the previous thread close.
To @samiam33: I doubt the person who stopped for directions has any idea someone is telling the story of the occurence.
Reply: To my knowledge based on posts by members this morning, this has now been picked up by national news outlets. IMO if I'm that guy, I'm speaking up. And, I'm speaking up quick before they find me. MOO
To @rosesfromangels: Or he truly believes that's all that happened.
Not trying to give this guy a hall pass of any sort, but I truly think he will be declared incompetent to stand trial. From various bits of info that is emerging, it sounds like he has been unwell for awhile. Likely GP and the parents held him together, until they couldn't any more. All amateur opinion and speculation
Reply: MOO, I think that will be a tall order, as would an insanity defense. It depends on the jurisdiction. If the jurisdiction follows the M'naughten (McNaughten) Rule the issue hinges not on whether he suffers from some form of mental incapacity, but rather only whether he knew that what he was doing at the time was wrong. MOO Not fact.
M'naughten Rule
Those are the old ones. There was a sighting early Saturday morning at 12:30. The link was just reposted above.
Not sure what these folks believe. Do they think the Parents are going to come out for a lovely chat(regarding the hysterical people yelling at BL's house as if he's inside)
I understand the passion and curiosity. It's why we read this. But the ignorance is scary. Do they actually believe that BL could be hiding in the house and the FBI wouldn't know it and couldn't search it?