Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #66

[ringbearer]

I've seen this mentioned a few times - that there was an imprint of a tent near Gabby's body. Do you have a link to that, by chance? All I've seen is the interview with Gabby's stepfather where he says there was an old fire ring and a flat spot with "space" for a tent, not that there was evidence a tent was actually there. tia!

I know I've referred to a "tent," or maybe I used the word canopy, idr. But I was referring to the "tent" they put up when they found her body. I had thought they only put those coverings up over the exact location where the body is found to protect the site from weather/helicopter footage, etc. But you could see absolutely nothing under the "tent" in this case. Which made me wonder if that is correct.

 

[BreakingNews]

For us insomniacs in Oz
time difference is 9:00 am Saturday, in Washington, DC, USA is
12:00 am Sunday, in Canberra ACT.

 

[ce4au]

Question for folks more experienced than I am:
When her time of death is listed as approximately between 3 and 4 weeks from the date that she was found, does that cover the possibility of ALL of the 4th week, as the starting point and ALL of the 3rd week as an approximate end point?

For example:
The entire 4th week is August 22-28th
The entire 3rd week is August 29-September 4th.

Do we know? Are those dates spans possible?

Thanks much!

I would say it would be August 22-29. Anything passed the 29th (during that week) would be 2 weeks x days. JMO

 

[sarahboirin]

So this is exactly what Gabby's step-dad said (with a link!)

"There was remnants of a fire ring there and you could see where those rocks had been moved to make the fire ring. There was a clearing where I would assume, knowing I have a similar tent, where I would place my tent and that opening would face out overlooking the mountain range. And her body was found...I guess it would be in front of a tent, if that's what was there, or just in front of the fire ring. There was definitely a fire ring there."

Interview with family

so the tent is really only speculation

 

[Cardinal47]

Police have spent so much time in the woods. Wonder what they are going on?

 

[Which_pancake]

So this is exactly what Gabby's step-dad said (with a link!)

"There was remnants of a fire ring there and you could see where those rocks had been moved to make the fire ring. There was a clearing where I would assume, knowing I have a similar tent, where I would place my tent and that opening would face out overlooking the mountain range. And her body was found...I guess it would be in front of a tent, if that's what was there, or just in front of the fire ring. There was definitely a fire ring there."

Interview with family

Thank you!

 

[ce4au]

Right, but he never says there was an imprint of a tent, just that there was a clearing where one could pitch a tent.

"You can see where the rocks had been moved to make a fire ring and there was a clearing," he said, "Her body was found — what would be — in front of the tent if that’s what was there or in front of the fire ring."

He "pictured" a tent in that location, he did not say he saw evidence of one.

Gabby Petito's Stepdad Describes Identifying Her Body — Exactly Where And How She Was Found

Yeah, you’re correct. I believe before where you quoted (I think…could be after lol but somewhere in that interview) he also says that he liked to camp sometimes & if he could have chosen the perfect place to put a tent, she would have been laying right at the entrance of it.

 

[Krwiley60]

Hi RANCH!!! You know, I have zero legal experience. Are they only appointed for hearings? Is that why none is listed?

If he is found and arrested, defense counsel will be appointed for him or he will get his own private attorney. That attorney will represent him throughout all of the court proceedings, not just hearings. There is no reason for him to have an attorney at this point since he is missing.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Too many coincidences.

It is unclear if these boots belonged to Petito.

“This was quick. This was not sitting here for five or six hours, trying to figure out how to conceal a crime,” he said
.Former Prosecutor Reveals Details Of How Gabby Petito’s Body Was Found After Analyzing Crime Scene Footage

eta:
When KSL’s Chopper 5 flew over the crime scene that day, a photographer spotted the remains above ground, but covered, possibly by a blanket.

Hiking shoes were on the ground next to the body.

Among the questions Morgan hopes can be answered eventually by evidence on the ground: Why there is no sign of conflict at the scene?

Was the body moved? In which case, he asks, why were there no signs of, say, dragging?

Why were hiking shoes just left there and not buried or disposed of?

Still, many more answers left to come out at some point.

Read more on the investigation here.
Wyoming coroner: Gabby Petito's cause of death was strangulation

 

[Cinna]

But you are not dead, unless you are participating from the Great Beyond. Gabby was dead when he used her card/funds to return to Florida.

True. But did he know she was dead when he used the card? I think he did, but it's yet to be proven. I don't know if that makes a difference legally.

 

[ce4au]

Yeah, you’re correct. I believe before where you quoted (I think…could be after lol but somewhere in that interview) he also says that he liked to camp sometimes & if he could have chosen the perfect place to put a tent, she would have been laying right at the entrance of it.

@Allabouttrial posted the exact quote with a link

 

[rosesfromangels]

We're talking about the Dr Phil interview with her parents who were discussing the area where her body was found. They said there was the mark or imprint of what could have been a tent and a campfire beside where her body was located.
People are arguing that it wasn't necessarily their tent but a tent from some time before she died.
I don't think they would have mentioned it if they didn't believe it to be true.

Thank you for that further detail; hard to keep up!
IIRC, wasn't the area where her remains were found off limits for camping?
If so, that lends more weight towards the speculation that the signs of a tent/campfire were more likely GP/BL's? In addition, we have a photo of their van parked near that area. Did they normally have gear secured on top of the van?

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[10ofRods]

One more thought I had reflecting back on following the Mollie Tibbetts case. I had not heard of Web Sleuths until a few months ago, while the MT trial was ongoing. I knew a lot of the facts of the case because they were getting brought out int h trial, but I was going through the WS threads from the beginning so I could see lots of discussions on evidence that turned out to be wrong, misguided, or unimportant.

I think we all know that we don't have all the facts publicly, but what I see as the bigger problem to overcome is the idea that the public facts are necessarily important. We can only discuss what we know, and that can take on outsized importance.

So just as an example in this case... The TikTok witness may be entirely accurate about what happened at Merry Piglets, but it could be that the event has nothing to do ultimately with the murder according to investigators.

(If you followed the MT threads, I'm thinking of the many multiple threads spent speculating about the red shirt!)

JMO

From my point of view, the Merry Piglets sighting has a lot to do with this case. It establishes the last known time Gabby was seen alive. It seems clear to me that LE has been there and interviewed staff. I am guessing that gave LE a time frame to look at the video from the camera at the main intersection in Jackson - no way to get to Spread Creek without going past that camera.

This creates a window for Gabby's death that places BL near her/beside her/camping with her (and the van). I'm curious why you are certain that "investigators" think the Merry Piglet event has nothing to do with her murder. Can you say how you know that they concluded that? I haven't been privy to what all the investigators say - and certainly haven't seen any FBI reports on victimology or profiling of the type of criminal who killed Gabby.

 

[cady]

Thinking about SB and BL's last conversation that SB claims was 9/13... The story is BL took the mustang early to the park, no? Gate opens at 6am, so assuming the gate was closed prior and he parked inside it would be after that hour. Strangely, I read about the landscaping company that cares for the park claim the mustang was parked oddly in the grass, not sure if that means outside the gate or not but could be interesting wrinkle, anyway this is unconfirmed and pure speculation. Would be interesting to nail down the hour that BL left. If it was before sunrise it is hard to imagine him on the phone with SB at 6am 9/13. If the conversation was later in the day that would be interesting if true. BL leaves a phone at home early 9/13 but speaks to SB later that day? Well there is a ping in the reserve now from a different phone, to SB no less, that surely would interest LE! Speculation only of course...

YES. BL left his new ATT phone home, and LE has it, but he may have taken a burner phone with him...not necessarily purchased after he returned to FLA, but possibly purchased anywhere from WY on, on his trip to FL, to communicate with his parents. jmo

 

[rosesfromangels]

True. But did he know she was dead when he used the card? I think he did, but it's yet to be proven. I don't know if that makes a difference legally.

And, didn't he offer $200 cash for a ride? Not sure if that threads in to this timing, or discussion of the card.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Cinna]

That's fine but technically not legal.

According to National Consumer Law Center Associate Director Lauren Saunders, it's not illegal to lend someone else your credit card. In other words, that little loan is not breaking any federal or state laws. But there's a good chance you're violating your credit card contract.

 

[ce4au]

so the tent is really only speculation

That is my understanding. he’s just basically saying, if I could have chosen a good place to put my tent, it would have been there. So, that’s why he thinks there was a tent there at some point. JMO

 

[simplemind]

I know I've referred to a "tent," or maybe I used the word canopy, idr. But I was referring to the "tent" they put up when they found her body. I had thought they only put those coverings up over the exact location where the body is found to protect the site from weather/helicopter footage, etc. But you could see absolutely nothing under the "tent" in this case. Which made me wonder if that is correct.

In the footage later in the day you can see two 'tents' they put up. One no-wall canopy to protect LE while they processed evidence I am assuming. The other tent was a large multi dome they possibly put over the area the body was found.

 

[JuneRose]

so the tent is really only speculation

yes and could the imprint he saw be where LE had their canopy put up when the body was disovered? who knows ....

 

[elmomom]

Why not? I looked up my tos and the bank is ok with it. They just caution that I will be responsible for all charges.

<modsnip> Gabby’s TOS is not fine with it, and it is illegal. And any bank is likely not to agree that permissions extend after the death of the account holder. Bank accounts become part of the estate, which is a whole other can of worms legally.
Additionally, I wanted to point out that we aren’t talking about a credit card account, in case you were confused.

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