Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #68

[lizzied]

Good morning all. I have a couple of questions for anyone who wishes to answer:
1- How hard would LE be looking for BL if it wasn't for the SM coverage?

2- Does anyone else feel something is very wrong here, as in the searches at Carlton Reserve? He isn't there. He is in one of his parents rentals or maybe one of their friends who also flip houses, imho. Many of us here have said from the beginning that he will be found living in an empty house, not outdoors roughing it.
I just feel we are being duped somehow. Jmo

totally agree about the carlton reserve!! Like how many times, ways, means, methods, etc do they utilize to go through that? I do not understand at this point.

 

[Angels Advocate]

Agree, It's not IMO a home anyone in their 20's, would decorate like that. It's very overdecorated, like someone who had to downsize to become a snowbird, and brought as much as they could stuff in a condo with them. It's too much stuff for minimalists, a heavy dark look to everything, a bajilliion knick knacks, so I'm with you. The only thing missing is the crotched doll that covers the extra toilet paper roll! I didn't spend but a minute looking at the pics and felt overwhelmed with the decor. JMO.

I feel like it is RL’s taste. Did the laundries let Gabby and BL live in their condo ?

 

[Bekind89]

totally agree about the carlton reserve!! Like how many times, ways, means, methods, etc do they utilize to go through that? I do not understand at this point.

Thank you for answering me. It is very frustrating at this point and I can not help but feel BL may be being protected by people other than his parents. This is just my opinion and the feeling I have had for well over a week now. Jmo

 

[PiperAria]

Well spotted! Was it linocut prints that BL was into? I know he liked art and drawing..

MOO

are you guys talking about the rainbow squares hanging from a line? I’m pretty sure those are Tibetan prayer flags; they come printed that way and are easy to come by. IMO though not impossible for BL to have made his own linocuts for them to make their own. Apologies if you’re talking about something else completely

ETA also interesting for them to be a common theme in both condo and tent. I find them to be fairly popular (and yes, even at campsites) but in this case a bit too many other things surrounding the condo point to them having stayed there at least a while for it to be 100% coincidence MOO

 

[Angels Advocate]

I feel like it is RL’s taste. Did the laundries let Gabby and BL live in their condo ?

Looks like the Laundries first purchase as they became snowbirds.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

RSBM

Even though the house was sold, most of it definitely looked staged to me, but I've noticed the following:

• Pic.3 - there's a lady wearing a red top standing in the hallway much the same build as RP. I've enlarged and made it lighter. Do you think it could be RL? She may have done the staging. Notice the scarf/shawl draped over the chair. The decorative pieces at the bottom of the mirror look very similar to the little ornaments Gabby had in the van.
• Pic. 6 - there are some spectacles in a dish/bowl on top of the shelf/snack bar to the right of the box of tissues.
• Pic. 9 - Double bed and a bike against the wall.
• Pic. 10 - Same room as pic.9 from different angle showing bike with water bottle and helmet. (We know that both BL and RP ride bikes)
• Pic 11 - Man's reflection in mirror. Different colour top to the woman.
• Pic.15 - The linocuts hanging on the line look like those used by RL . Is that a storage cupboard on the far wall!
• Pic 16 - Looks like another storage cupboard at the other end.

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IMO the furnishings, particularly the bedspread, are not those which Gabby or BL would buy so I can only assume that they were either owned or hired by the Laundries. Maybe they were moved to other properties as required for sale purposes. I think it's quite possible that Gabby and BL could have been living here.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...r-Unit-40_Venice_FL_34285_M66781-15815#photo0

Oh man, the threads are moving so fast. I cnt keep up. I kept seeing a reference to a Tibetan flag and I kept passing it by. I didn’t understand but I thought I’d let you folks handle that part of it while I was working on something else. I just realize we are discussing two separate places.
I’m talking about another one on Linksman.
Google Maps
*could they have stayed at both at some time. Didn’t they live with the parents for almost two years?

 

[NCWatcher]

I feel like it is RL’s taste. Did the laundries let Gabby and BL live in their condo ?

Do we know RL's taste? I don't think I've ever seen her decor. Do you have a link?
TIA

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Late to the party, but that banner on the condo deck looks like Tibetan prayer flags to me:

image from Amazon.com

jmho ymmv lrr

"ymmv" and "lrr" are new abbreviations to me. What do these mean, please?

 

[Barbie619]

Jim said vengance; can't say i'm surprised at this point. Gabby's family has got to be quite angry with the L's and their lawyer.

One of the stages of grief. I'm so sorry that they have to experience all this pain for losing their child. Gabby didn't deserve to be killed by anyone for any reason. No one deserves to die under the circumstances such as Gabby.

Left to just decompose in a small wooded area in a place far from her home. The one who was suppose to protect her and take care of her no where to be found, no explanation for leaving her missing/dead. Cruel beyond words.

I hope the family someday soon finds some peace but I know it is a long way's away from that time. So unfair, so sad, so disturbing.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Thank you for answering me. It is very frustrating at this point and I can not help but feel BL may be being protected by people other than his parents. This is just my opinion and the feeling I have had for well over a week now. Jmo

Friends? Friends of parents? OR…

Friends or relatives of attorney? my pick…imo

 

[Angels Advocate]

Do we know RL's taste? I don't think I've ever seen her decor. Do you have a link?
TIA

There are photos everywhere of her hairstyle her clothing, cars, house and now her condo. They were from New York and moved to Florida. They don’t look wealthy. We know her age. When you live long enough and travel the world and meet and observe enough people you get a feeling for these things.

 

[Bekind89]

Friends? Friends of parents? OR…

Friends or relatives of attorney? my pick…imo

Lol, yes, friends of the parents and attorney. This is the oddest search I have ever witnessed. I just hope there will be justice for Gabby's family so that they can maybe begin to heal. Jmo

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Of course I don't know what the truth of their living arrangements is, but for what it's worth:
- All of her parents have said she was living there
- She uploaded a short video of the two of them in the Laundrie back yard
- Her "previous address" is listed as being the Laundrie's house in the missing person report filed by her mother
- His sister has said that GP lived at the Laundrie's current house
- Neighbors said that they saw the couple there (one mentioned seeing them working on the van in the driveway)

I just spotted the mug with letter 'V' on...

This wouldn't have normally drawn my attention but I'm sure I recall one of Brian and Gabby's social media handles referenced the letters B, G and V.

I had assumed that the V was for "Van life", but it's strange seeing this initial again on a mug when none of the people in this entire case have a name beginning with V.

MOO

 

[Barbie619]

totally agree about the carlton reserve!! Like how many times, ways, means, methods, etc do they utilize to go through that? I do not understand at this point.

The only thing that seems reasonable to understand for me is that the water is finally receding and they are doubling back on areas of concern that couldn't be searched previously due flooding. I really doubt they are doing this on the word of the Laundries, unless they gave compelling information that rings true to LE. jmo

 

[cottonweaver]

The relationship with SB the real estate attorney i am guessing has served the L family well. JMO

A business relationship for so many years, yes. And maybe more than business?

And it would certainly be interesting to consider all the properties outside of Florida in case there are any they held onto, are still renting out but am sure that FBI have covered all of that. ( Although personally I still can't shake the possibility that he may have killed himself by now - just cause he'd know he can't take prison)

So many what ifs in this case, that I may as well add another one....
Without the Laundries doing real estate, would Gabby have ended up in Florida at all?

We know how hard it is for today's young generation to get on the property ladder & rent is costly. I just get the feeling that BL would have used his parents' property-holding safety-net to help get GP to move away from her parents. If I was the mother of a murdered daughter I think this would add to my resentment, just being human.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

One of the stages of grief. I'm so sorry that they have to experience all this pain for losing their child. Gabby didn't deserve to be killed by anyone for any reason. No one deserves to die under the circumstances such as Gabby.

Left to just decompose in a small wooded area in a place far from her home. The one who was suppose to protect her and take care of her no where to be found, no explanation for leaving her missing/dead. Cruel beyond words.

I hope the family someday soon finds some peace but I know it is a long way's away from that time. So unfair, so sad, so disturbing.

I think of my parents after we found my brother’s body. We sisters had to hold our mama up for a very long time. She could barely get out of bed for weeks - a deep depression - ‘It’s my fault, I could have done more…why…oh just why…now it’s too late.” We heard that over and over. Her savior got her out of bed. Her cats, gardens and lots of family love got her back on her feet. I can’t imagine the strength Gabby’s parents have summoned up to behave so faithfully and actively to ensure Gabby’s death would not end in vain. RIP Gabby.

 

[Tiff23fr]

At this point I believe Rose.

I do as well. I tend to take a position that someone not involved with a crime has no reason to lie in the aftermath of a crime. When I read stories such as this, I realize there may be extraneous details skewed to ones own filter and perception, but when it comes to a basic potential fact such as someone lived at X, or I stayed at X, I take that as highly probable.

That said, it takes me back to why the status of the relationship could be so important in all of this, and why that condo very well could matter. IF this was a place they stayed, all be it owned by his parents, it is very possible the van was being prepared for Van Life at the parents home where tools and space for remodel were available.

Imagine a scenario where the parents decide to sale the condo, because Gabby and Brian are moving on to a different lifestyle, the Vanlife. There would be no need in the parents eyes to maintain this extra condo where Gabby and Brian may have stayed. The condo is sold, and the trajectory of Gabby and Brian’s relationship begins to tumble.

If Gabby decided she was ready to end the relationship, she still had a place. Per the Denver FBI Tweet shared yesterday this van was registered to Gabby. Gabby and Brian were not married. Gabby would have the van and even if she wasn’t comfortable driving it in the past, a strong willed individual ready to move on in life can quickly get comfortable with driving a vehicle. IMO

Where would Brian have to go, especially if he was out of funds and had no job? The condo had been sold. It would seem Brian would have to go back to living with mom and dad and that would be another ego hit.

JMO

 

[justaparent]

Thank you for answering me. It is very frustrating at this point and I can not help but feel BL may be being protected by people other than his parents. This is just my opinion and the feeling I have had for well over a week now. Jmo

Since the FBI is no doubt aware of every property the L’s own or is connected to I doubt he would be in one of those. More likely an inexpensive rental someplace where they don’t dig into a person’s background or ask for a credit report.

He had plenty of time to choose a location. If he called his parents on the trip back they could have started looking before he made it to Florida.

I do not believe he is in Mexico — I doubt he would do well there. There are plenty of places he can stay hidden in the United States.

moo

 

[Bekind89]

I do as well. I tend to take a position that someone not involved with a crime has no reason to lie in the aftermath of a crime. When I read stories such as this, I realize there may be extraneous details skewed to ones own filter and perception, but when it comes to a basic potential fact such as someone lived at X, or I stayed at X, I take that as highly probable.

That said, it takes me back to why the status of the relationship could be so important in all of this, and why that condo very well could matter. IF this was a place they stayed, all be it owned by his parents, it is very possible the van was being prepared for Van Life at the parents home where tools and space for remodel were available.

Imagine a scenario where the parents decide to sale the condo, because Gabby and Brian are moving on to a different lifestyle, the Vanlife. There would be no need in the parents eyes to maintain this extra condo where Gabby and Brian may have stayed. The condo is sold, and the trajectory of Gabby and Brian’s relationship begins to tumble.

If Gabby decided she was ready to end the relationship, she still had a place. Per the Denver FBI Tweet shared yesterday this van was registered to Gabby. Gabby and Brian were not married. Gabby would have the van and even if she wasn’t comfortable driving it in the past, a strong willed individual ready to move on in life can quickly get comfortable with driving a vehicle. IMO

Where would Brian have to go, especially if he was out of funds and had no job? The condo had been sold. It would seem Brian would have to go back to living with mom and dad and that would be another ego hit.

JMO

Excellent observations. This to me makes me wonder how much that trip back home to deal with the storage issue may have triggered BL. Jmo

 

[NCWatcher]

There are photos everywhere of her hairstyle her clothing, cars, house and now her condo. They were from New York and moved to Florida. They don’t look wealthy. We know her age. When you live long enough and travel the world and meet and observe enough people you get a feeling for these things.

I have seen her. But knowing she's 55, generally middle class, and from NY doesn't allow me to know her taste in decor. I don't think all 55-year olds of a certain wealth status from NY (or anywhere else) are alike. I've never seen inside her current house. Finally we don't know if the condo reflects her taste. That's kind of the point. You said it did & I wanted to see known examples of her home decor. Thanks anyway.
JMO