The Lulu & Leo Fund was established in memory of Lucia (Lulu) and Leo Krim
"As the parents of Lulu and Leo, we want to honor our children through carrying on their love of arts and sciences education. Our children have loved the many art and science programs in the cities in which we have lived, such as Lulu’s beloved “Art Afternoons” class at the Metropolitan Museum of Art."
http://lululeofund.org/
It is real. There is also a FB page.
Kevin Krim once ran the Live Journal website. I like the site. I bet the picture on it is one Lulu painted.
I think it's beautiful. It shows the selflessness and grace of Lulu and leo's parents. At a time of such utter horror, they have the capacity to think of other children. Wow.
So-o-o, do WSers think that YO had accepted the Krims' offer of five extra hours of work per week and had already started working the five extra hours per week?
I think I had misinterpreted the earliest references to the "five extra hours per week" as a recent offer that YO resented so much that she had not accepted it, and that her anger was therefore assumed to be coming (at least partially) from her feeling that the offer was demeaning to her "status" and that she was therefore continuing to perform only her regular tasks.
Now I'm pretty sure I was wrong, and if YO had already started doing the work entailed in the "extra five hours per week," it would at least make a little bit of sense that she was building up resentment as she performed any/all of her daily activities that the Krims paid her for.
What is your take on the offer of extra work being made and the subsequent acceptance or refusal of the offer, etc.
I'm just trying to get a better understanding of motivation in this case, and am in no way trying to justify anything YO did.
MOO. Any thoughts? TIA.
My take is that she is insane. No amount of anger would cause a person to stab to death their employer's innocent children and then stab themselves in the neck.
This murder and suicide attempt does not follow the MO of any rage killing that is unaccompanied by serious, mental illness. It just doesn't. People who have hatred of their employers try to kill their employers. Nannies or other childcare workers who have rage against the children (or the parents) generally beat the child to death and then try to cover it up by saying the kid fell or something.
I don't think pure evil is the excuse for this either. I know that won't be a popular opinion but it is mine. Evil people who kill usually do not commit suicide unless they are related to the parents or the children of the victim, or to the victim (s), romantically involved with the parents of the victim or the victim (in the case of adults), molesting the victim, or unless they are narcissistic, dissatisfied, disgruntled creeps who feel life has nothing left to offer and they want to go out in a blaze of glory by taking down as many innocent people as they can before they themselves die, in a huge gun or bomb massacre. I do not feel this woman matches any of those scenarios.
I think she is completely mentally ill.
But before you start shouting that I believe this woman isn't culpable, I don't. I think mentally ill people are
only not culpable if they are so insane that they either did not know what they were doing (thought they were squeezing a lemon, not strangling someone) or had no idea that what they were doing was wrong (were so psychotic that they believed the victim was Satan and they were saving the world). This is the legal definition of insanity and most insane people who commit violent crimes were not legally insane when they committed them.
I just don't believe that, unless a person is so mentally ill that they are slapping feces on themselves and/or trying, indiscriminately, to kill everyone or anyone in their path, that they lack choice in what they are doing.
So, while I don't think "pure evil" explains a person like this (I think that definition is more for people like joe duncan), I do think a person like this has the ability and thus, responsibility to mitigate against whatever psychotic voices are in their heads and get anyone around them out of harm's way, with the last ounce of strength in their bodies. I think this woman planned, to some degree,w hat she was going to do, knew it was wrong and should never see the outside world again. But, I do think insanity was the primary motivation - not evil, rage or revenge.
That is unbelievable. I haven't looked at the page but, even if these supporters are close friends of YO and believe she had a psychotic break, it is totally inappropriate to put the deceased child's picture on the page. I'm just speechless.
This is sick. It is so wrong, so heartless to use those angels' photos in an effort to get the nanny off. I wish FB could be prompted to force them to take that down. It is a massive slap in the face to their agonized parents and loved ones. Disgusting.
. The really terrifying part is I know people who think like this lady does. Like the are "entitled" with out having to work or do anything for that matter. Full of anger & jealousy because they don't have what others have worked so hard for.
