Zodiac Killer

[YESorNO]

Who is Joseph Newton Chandler III and why did he steal a dead boy's identity?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156746004134274

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[snowleopard]

They interviewed his son and he thought Nichols was fleeing child support, left mom and kids penniless with a run down car. There was some mention that he sent his family a letter with a penny inside....

 

[YESorNO]

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS MAN COULD BE THE ZODIAC KILLER? (with clip)
We take a look at the signs that some say point to Robert Ivan Nichols so far.

"After the identity of a mysterious man was revealed, rumors are swirling that he was the Zodiac Killer, one of America’s most elusive and infamous serial killers.

Members of the U.S. Marshals and local police held a press conference in Ohio on Thursday to reveal that they managed to uncover the real identity of a 65-year-old man who was living under a false name when he committed suicide in his Eastlake home in 2002. The man had been using the name and identity of Joseph Chandler III, a nine-year-old who died in the 1940s, for decades before he died — but on Thursday police revealed his real name was Robert Ivan Nichols.

Now, some are speculating that Nichols could be the Zodiac Killer, who claimed to have killed 37 people and terrorized Northern California with five brutal murders and sent coded ciphers to the media in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s. A reporter even asked U.S. Marshal Peter Elliot during a press conference Thursday if Nichols was the Zodiac Killer, and he said he couldn't say for sure.

Here's what we know so far:..."

Why Do People Think This Man Could Be The Zodiac Killer?
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[egrablestock]

Thats weird. Chandler is the mother of gary stewart if I remember correctly. Judy?

 

[egrablestock]

Nichols would be a good suspect for the other man theory. If you are the other man Chandler would be the perfect name to have. The same name as Stewart's mother Judy. There are some that thought wrongly some were trying to make a link to Earl Vanbest when In fact most of that link was already made before 2015 when a book came out naming Vanbest as the zodiac. They also wrongly assumed an effort was being made to show he was the zodiac,which put me on the spot and others, when we do not take lightly making accusations to who did what. The false assumptions made is the only reason I am bringing this up. When the first solution was made that possibly linked EVB it was 2009 or earlier. By 2012 there were 3 to possibly go in the first 3 lines. Those solutions did not come about to link EVB but a few things have been noticed after 2015, like when the first solution was made -the 7th letter of the alphabet was used in the 7th column and the 14th in column 14 . 7-14 is the birthday of EVB. More than one solution makes sense to tell a story about other areas in the cipher when the same symbols are going in different directions. The 3 line solution would also make sense because if there were more lines used someone would have figured it out by now and you would just be repeating mistakes of the past, thinking only using 4 or 5 symbols that repeat the second time is not good enough. Another thing that has been wrongly assumed is the skills the person that made the solutions has being called those of an amateur. I am debunking ahead of time. The first solution was made to tell a story about 11 spaces down and in the middle where the sequence of letters dob begins in the 340. Another because it was thought linking that info may make a map. Another because of the L shape of symbols that are the same going in 2 different directions. The solutions also make sense of the word- by -that shows up in the 340 .

 

[bonnieclyde4528]

Wanted to hear from people on their opinions regarding the Zodiac killer case,as far as theories,suspects,etc. Put this in the cold case thread,since after 40 years,there have been no arrests.

Edward Edwards???

 

[KOhDa]

I believe I cracked the Zodiac Killers Z13 or the my name is cipher. It says

Art (Zodiac symbol) Everett Mr

<modsnipped full name> 8/8/18

 

[KOhDa]

The best facial composite I've ever seen and a handwriting sample.

 

[karlb65]

Who is it?

 

[KOhDa]

Who is it?

Stunt pilot art scholl

 

[YESorNO]

Local author’s theory included in Zodiac special airing Wednesday

"The Zodiac murders, the Vallejo-related serial killer case that may never die, is featured in a Travel Channel show at 9 p.m. Wednesday.

The special includes the research that led Santa Rosa author and Zodiologist Mark Hewitt to conclude that Theodore “Ted” Kaczynski, AKA the “Unabomber,” and the Zodiac are one and the same.

The Mysteries at the Museum’s new Zodiac special premiers at 9 p.m., but will air again at midnight that night and several more times in coming weeks, Hewitt said...."

Local author’s theory included in Zodiac special airing Wednesday – Times-Herald
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[snowleopard]

This sounds like the theory of a guy who used to post on an old board about the ear/ons/golden state killer. I recorded it last night, but it was about a virus from the moon and prohibition. I'll keep the dvr on though, thanks!

 

[GreenOrchard]

I mean, they have Zodiac's DNA from the back of the stamps he used on the various letters he sent, why not just compare the DNA from both?

 

[Dan Cooper]

I mean, they have Zodiac's DNA from the back of the stamps he used on the various letters he sent, why not just compare the DNA from both?

Well, they have the DNA of whoever sent the letters...

 

[stephylee969]

Would love to know what method you used to come up with this solution?

 

[YESorNO]

Yesterday’s Crimes: The Zodiac Killer’s First Known Victims Died 50 Years Ago
It was 50 years ago this month that the Zodiac Killer took his first known victims. This is their story.

Dec 10th, 2018

"David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen went to different Vallejo high schools. They’d only known each other for two weeks when they went on their first date on Friday, Dec. 20, 1968. Betty, wearing a purple dress with a Christmas bell brooch pinned to its white collar, took David home to meet her folks at 8 p.m. The pair then stopped by a friend’s house and went to a holiday concert at Betty’s school, Hogan High...."

http://www.sfweekly.com/news/yester...killers-first-known-victim-died-50-years-ago/

Betty Lou [Image courtesy Tom Voigt of ZodiacKiller.com])
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Organizers Cancel 50th Anniversary Zodiac Killer Tour Due to Repeated Threats (with clip)

Dec 10, 2018

"A group of amateur Zodiac Killer crime sleuths planning to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first murders have had to scrap their plans.

A threat to harm anyone who visits the original crime scene has people who follow the case closely feeling scared.

"It's the first thing I think of in the morning the last thing I think of at night," said Sandy Betts, Zodiac Killer crime sleuth. "I'm obsessed."

Betts has spent the past 50 years following the notorious Zodiac Killer case. She lived in Vallejo when the killings took place and even thought the killer was after her....

Betts and others planned to spend the upcoming 50th anniversary like they did the 40th: on a bus tour to the crime scenes and ending where the killing spree started along Lake Hermand Road in Solano County. That's where the Zodiac Killer shot and killed two teenagers in 1968.

But the tour organizer said he got repeated threats from a man -- threats he felt were so credible he canceled the tour....
"It's a shame because we want to show our respects and keep the case alive for the victims," Betts said. "We want this guy caught.""

Organizers Cancel Zodiac Killer Tour Due to Repeated Threats

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[YESorNO]

The Zodiac case, 50 years later
Tracing the decades-long fascination with ‘our Jack the Ripper,’ responsible for a series of unsolved Bay Area slayings

"He is our Jack the Ripper.

Fifty years ago this week, a psychopath with a .22-caliber semiautomatic pistol sneaked up on two high school students parked on a windswept lover’s lane in Benicia. Shot down as they scrambled in terror, the young couple died in a spray of gunfire. It was an unusually messy crime scene.

The killing on Dec. 20, 1968, of David Faraday, 17, and his 16-year-old date, Betty Lou Jensen, marked the beginning of what became the twisted legend of the Zodiac Killer. By the time he was done, five more victims across the Bay Area would be shot or stabbed — three of them killed, two left barely alive but scarred for life.

Although the carnage spanned less than a year, the moniker Zodiac Killer was cemented into history. He would never be caught.

Considering the homicidal tumult of the 1960s-’70s, the number of his victims was actually somewhat low. Charles Manson murdered eight people. Ted Bundy killed 36, the Zebra Killers 14. Unhinged San Francisco preacher Jim Jones ordered the deaths of more than 900 in Jonestown, Guyana.

But this sadistic murderer had a repulsively unusual characteristic...."

Zodiac Killer case, 50 years later: Tracing the legend of ‘our Jack the Ripper’

(A drawing of the Zodiac Killer in costume at Lake Berryessa by former Chronicle cartoonist Robert Graysmith, whose authoritative books on the Zodiac would be published years later. The drawing is based on a description by Bryan Hartnell, who survived several stab wounds from the Zodiac’s attack on Sept. 27, 1969. Hartnell’s friend, Cecilia Shepherd, died from her wounds. | Courtesy Of Robert Graysmith 1969)
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[YESorNO]

Zodiac Killer case: How the San Francisco Chronicle was involved

Dec. 14, 2018

"One of the characteristics that set the Zodiac Killer apart from most murderers was the string of sociopathic letters he mailed to newspapers — and 17 of the known 22 went to The Chronicle.

With each letter, things got creepier. And more frightening, as he came to aim his bile at Chronicle staffers...."

Zodiac Killer case: How the San Francisco Chronicle was involved
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Zodiac Killer case: DNA may offer hope of solving the mystery

May 4, 2018

"Inspired by the apparent success of DNA searches in the Golden State Killer case, detectives at the Vallejo Police Department have sent decades-old letters from the infamous Zodiac Killer to a forensics laboratory with the hope of getting a genetic profile they can use to identify a suspect, investigators said.

Detectives in San Francisco and Napa counties, where the Zodiac also killed during his macabre murder spree in 1968 and 1969, are also re-evaluating their evidence to see if it’s worth making a new try at getting DNA profiles....

The Vallejo department has sent two envelopes, with their stamps, from letters the Zodiac mailed July 31, 1969, to The San Francisco Chronicle and the San Francisco Examiner. The stamps and adhesive areas of the envelopes were also tested about 10 years ago, but the DNA indicators were too small to be considered useful. The new hope is that improved techniques for separating glue from saliva will yield better samples....

The main items being re-evaluated by investigators in the Zodiac case include the door of a Volkswagen Karmann Ghia used by a couple that the Zodiac attacked at Lake Berryessa in Napa County in September 1969. The killer stabbed Cecelia Shepard, 22, and Bryan Hartnell, 20, killing Shepard; then wrote with a pen on the car door, giving dates of his attacks and scrawling his symbol, a circle with a cross in it. Investigators were able to lift what may have been at least parts of the killer’s fingerprints from the door.

Also still in storage is a bloody glove retrieved from the scene of the one confirmed San Francisco killing, and the last authoritatively attributed to the Zodiac — the shooting of cabdriver Paul Stine, 29, in October 1969...."

Zodiac Killer case: DNA may offer hope of solving the mystery

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[YESorNO]

Inside One Man's Theory: There Is No Zodiac Killer
Thomas Henry Horan believes the murders were committed by various people

Dec 17, 2018

"(NEWSER) – "Finding out there’s no Zodiac would be like finding out there's no Santa Claus," writes Bill Black for MEL Magazine—which may explain why a whole bunch of people are no fan of Thomas Henry Horan. He's a semi-retired community college writing professor in St. Louis. He also previously worked as a detective and has read the entirety of the 2,500-page case file on the Zodiac killer as compiled by four California police departments—something only a handful of people have done. His conclusion: the five murders attributed to the Zodiac killer were committed by various people, and the letters were a hoax likely carried out by someone with access to the police reports. Black begins by detailing the five "canonical" murders, which took place between December 1968 and October 1969...."

Inside One Man's Theory: There Is No Zodiac Killer

Read the full story:

(some graphic pics)

THIS ECCENTRIC ACADEMIC THINKS THE ZODIAC KILLER IS A HOAX
And he’s hated by the subculture of amateur sleuths who won’t give up trying to figure out the killer’s identity

December 17, 2018

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/this-eccentric-academic-thinks-the-zodiac-killer-is-a-hoax

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[snowleopard]

Interesting, but how did he access the piece of Stine's shirt that was missing from the crime scene and later sent to the Chronicle?