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Paul Lee Stine was married to Claudia Stine, did they have any children
How old would the father be now and why do you think he is a doctor?Team? Yup. Zodiac Pedophile Father and his Son. I believe both still alive. Both share the same name . different middle name. Father is a doctor. Son a ex crackhead turned methhead. I find it hard to believe they still have not been caught.
If the DNA matched other cases, I am pretty sure we would have heard about it.
I am not an expert on this case, although it has fascinated me since I was a kid when the crimes were happening and I was terrified, although I lived in So. CA and the crimes, of course were in No. CA.
My geography wasn't real strong then.
However, my basic theory is not that he was killed or imprisoned, although that is certainly possible. I think he was a Dennis Rader/Gary Ridgeway type. Lived a basically normal life with a family and was probably never suspected by anyone of being the Zodiac.
Part of the reason I believe that is that his identity has not yet been revealed and it is almost certain that he is dead, and I think it is quite likely that his family found evidence of his identity after his death.
I think considering his ego and taunting of the police and press, it is almost certain he kept souvenirs, that someone would have found upon his death. Family would have motivation to cover it up.
Interesting. Cohuld he have a son who is carrying on for him and who was trained by him? Maybe familial DNA will catch him. Do you think Delphi killer could be a copycat?JMO, if some of his family found evidence or suspected him after he died, I would imagine they would hold onto the evidence until they themselves are dead. It may be the case that years from now a packet containing crucial evidence belonging to the killer may be located behind a wall, etc., which will remove any doubt as to who he was. I certainly believe he is dead by now. I don't believe he would go to his grave without having the last laugh at those who had tried to catch him in life, and I feel he carried evidence with him wherever he went. So, it will be found somewhere connected to the last place he lived. JMO, MOO. etc.
Do you think the Delphi killer could be a copycat of the Zodiac? We don't know that much but there is a picture of him and Voice clip. LE said there is a twist to case. Also murder happened on 13th of the month a favorite number of the Zodiac right?I have been obsessed with this case for about 25 years. This is the first time I have posted on this thread.
JMO here.....
I honestly believe Zodiac is dead, and probably has been dead since the 1980's or before.
Unlike some cases, I believe there is an excellent chance that the real Zodiac is NOT any of the several suspects that have been investigated since the late 1960's. But I do believe he may have been questioned at one time or another just in passing, probably back during the killings and was probably dismissed for whatever reason.
I certainly do not believe Zodiac is any of the main suspects on Voight's zodiackiller website, especially Richard Gaikowski. I've read about him and it just doesn't hold water with me. As for ALA, for a long time I believed he was a great suspect until i saw that interview of him in 1992 before he died. I know this doesn't sound like a good reason to dismiss a suspect, but the tone of his voice and the way ALA said "I'm not the damn Zodiac" convinced me he really wasn't Zodiac.
I also am not convinced that Cheri Jo Bates is a Zodiac victim. What real evidence is there linking him to her? What, the fact that the killer wrote about the murder? That's not a real good reason in itself. Where is Riverside, and how far is that from the San Francisco area? I'm not that familiar with California. I always thought Riverside was near LA. If it is near LA, why do people think her murder was done by Zodiac, given that his hunting ground was in the SF area? I need more evidence to convince me on this connection.
In reality, I have no idea how many people Zodiac actually murdered, or how many other unsolved murders there are that can actually be attributed to Zodiac himself where a connection has yet to be made. It is, of course, possible that he really did commit at least 37 murders as stated on his letters, but we'll probably never know that for sure.
I believe there was just one killer, and he stopped killing probably either because he was sent to prison maybe for another murder, he died, became incapacitated some way like in an accident, or maybe even just stopped killing all together and lived out the rest of his life like BTK did without killing. Who knows? Either way, i believe he has been dead for decades.
You would of thought that a family member or friend would have discovered evidence he was the Zodiac after he died or went to prison. Usually serial killers like that love to keep memento's of their kills. So, either he burned all traces of those mementos before he died or his family is keeping that deep dark secret amongst themselves forever. Either way, I honestly believe we'll never know because more than likely it will never be solved.
I could probably come up with more theories but that's enough for now.
Of course, this is JMO only.
Do you think the Delphi killer could be a copycat of the Zodiac? We don't know that much but there is a picture of him and Voice clip. LE said there is a twist to case. Also murder happened on 13th of the month a favorite number of the Zodiac right?
I have been obsessed with this case for about 25 years. This is the first time I have posted on this thread.
JMO here.....
I honestly believe Zodiac is dead, and probably has been dead since the 1980's or before.
Unlike some cases, I believe there is an excellent chance that the real Zodiac is NOT any of the several suspects that have been investigated since the late 1960's. But I do believe he may have been questioned at one time or another just in passing, probably back during the killings and was probably dismissed for whatever reason.
I certainly do not believe Zodiac is any of the main suspects on Voight's zodiackiller website, especially Richard Gaikowski. I've read about him and it just doesn't hold water with me. As for ALA, for a long time I believed he was a great suspect until i saw that interview of him in 1992 before he died. I know this doesn't sound like a good reason to dismiss a suspect, but the tone of his voice and the way ALA said "I'm not the damn Zodiac" convinced me he really wasn't Zodiac.
I also am not convinced that Cheri Jo Bates is a Zodiac victim. What real evidence is there linking him to her? What, the fact that the killer wrote about the murder? That's not a real good reason in itself. Where is Riverside, and how far is that from the San Francisco area? I'm not that familiar with California. I always thought Riverside was near LA. If it is near LA, why do people think her murder was done by Zodiac, given that his hunting ground was in the SF area? I need more evidence to convince me on this connection.
In reality, I have no idea how many people Zodiac actually murdered, or how many other unsolved murders there are that can actually be attributed to Zodiac himself where a connection has yet to be made. It is, of course, possible that he really did commit at least 37 murders as stated on his letters, but we'll probably never know that for sure.
I believe there was just one killer, and he stopped killing probably either because he was sent to prison maybe for another murder, he died, became incapacitated some way like in an accident, or maybe even just stopped killing all together and lived out the rest of his life like BTK did without killing. Who knows? Either way, i believe he has been dead for decades.
You would of thought that a family member or friend would have discovered evidence he was the Zodiac after he died or went to prison. Usually serial killers like that love to keep memento's of their kills. So, either he burned all traces of those mementos before he died or his family is keeping that deep dark secret amongst themselves forever. Either way, I honestly believe we'll never know because more than likely it will never be solved.
I could probably come up with more theories but that's enough for now.
Of course, this is JMO only.
As with so many cold cases, every major suspect you read about leads you to think "damn it, that is the guy!" due to circumstantial evidence, physical likeness, or simply having a gut feeling.
There's a very interesting thread on here about Ted Kaczynski being the Zodiac, and I thought much of the reasoning behind that was absolutely fascinating. There's also the cryptography and bomb-making stuff, and people have managed to find both Kaczynski and Allen in among the cipher letters.
Having just read about Sullivan, he seems a very good match. If it's true that he studied cryptography at university, had numerous psychotic episodes (including periods of incarceration), lived in Riverside and later moved to Santa Cruz then I think that's very interesting indeed. The handwriting samples are also very compelling, although I try to be wary of those as I find it's easy to subconsciously come up with matches that you want to be there but might not necessarily be. That he died in 1977 and was possibly insane is also interesting, as it might explain why no one convincing (i.e. prints, DNA) has ever either come forward or been accused of having been the Zodiac.