‘Mother hen’ to media villain: The life of Debbie Bradley - Kansas City Star 11/5/11

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  • #221
And a statement from the interview:

"And for some reason, Sean seemed to feel uncomfortable around his little boy. He stopped visiting him. He still pays child support, Hazel says."

Not his? Recognized the child now looks like a friend? Did the new baby's dad decide the same thing?

I want to believe the parents were not involved in her disappearance, but find it difficult to do so.

Just a thought.... If Sean does have PTSD, that alone may make him uncomfortable with his son. :twocents:
 
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If it is true that LE said that to her, why would it really be motivation for her to harm or kill Lisa? :waitasec:
LE can lie or stretch the truth as they choose but isn't that pushing it?
 
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But what good would it do to have the same conversation with LE over and over and over? Nothing new is asked and they are instead lobbing the same claims of guilt at you (not you but the person they are interviewing). How is it helpful to sit there hour after hour after hour with LE refusing to listen to anything you have to say unless of course you confess to the murder of your child, even if you had nothing to do with it? At some point LE needs to realize that the way they are handling the case is not working and that perhaps they should change strategies.

MOO

It would not be the same conversation IMHO. Debbie's timeline AND JI's timelines have changed day by day. Of course the police have more questions, new questions, new people to ask the parents about. I'm still of the opinion that if it were my baby I'd lay on hot coals AND answer questions with my hands tied behind my back. I guess my priorities would be deemed different, I'd want my baby back and I'd be on every media outlet I could find vs hiding.
 
  • #224
You are sad "because it sounds like DB's son has completely lost all contact with the paternal side of his family, grandparents included" Who do you think is at fault here? I think the father is a self centered,horrible dad.

I didn't make a statement about who is at fault and I'm not going to, it is imo equally sad whoever is at fault. The article makes it sound like no one is really making an effort to keep in touch so maybe they all are? It sounds like the father has some serious issues from the war; who is at fault for that?
 
  • #225
If LE really treated her like this I can see why they have lawyers and wont speak. Personally I dont consider LE godly, so I think its very possible the interrogations went like that. Not very conducive to getting to the truth, no matter what the truth is.

I do not consider LE godly as well, but when it comes to MY CHILD, accuse me of whatever, call me what you will...I would tell the truth, cooperate and help LE clear my name as fast as possible so that LE can move on and find my daughter and the real perp. Why is DB stalling LE after all these weeks, does she have something to hide?????? Why not have the boys DNA tested so LE can move forward to finding out what happened to find baby lisa, does she not want answers?????
 
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But what good would it do to have the same conversation with LE over and over and over? Nothing new is asked and they are instead lobbing the same claims of guilt at you (not you but the person they are interviewing). How is it helpful to sit there hour after hour after hour with LE refusing to listen to anything you have to say unless of course you confess to the murder of your child, even if you had nothing to do with it? At some point LE needs to realize that the way they are handling the case is not working and that perhaps they should change strategies.

MOO

First of all...how do we know that nothing new was asked? And, how do we know that LE is refusing to listen? People who know how LE operates to find the actual perpetrators of crimes know that LE is trained on how to ask questions in order to find out the truth. At what point do we know that LE stepped over the line and began to ask the same thing over and over? We don't know that. We only have the word of DB and JI, and they have already shown that they lie constantly so much that they can't keep one thing straight.
 
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I do not consider LE godly as well, but when it comes to MY CHILD, accuse me of whatever, call me what you will...I would tell the truth, cooperate and help LE clear my name as fast as possible so that LE can move on and find my daughter and the real perp. Why is DB stalling LE after all these weeks, does she have something to hide?????? Why not have the boys DNA tested so LE can move forward to finding out what happened to find baby lisa, does she not want answers?????

MO Flip-no she does not want answers,b/c she knows them already! I agree with your post!!
 
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I think it is interesting that in the article that "armchair sleuths" were making judgement on DB. They must know we are here.

As soon as I read that I thought of you WSers.
 
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BBM

Excuse me, but WHUT? :ohwow:

Given a pass by whom, exactly ? AB may not have been criminally charged, but it certainly wasn't the consensus here on WS that he should be given a pass. Not by a longshot. :snooty:

There are plenty of us who hold him responsible for what happened to Zahra and feel it's a miscarriage of justice that he is free to walk the streets today, myself included.

:waitasec: Whoa - first I said 'many' and the evidence is there on discussion boards and news article comments all over the internet. Google it. I didn't say it was a majority OR that "it was the consensus here at WS". That said there were indeed some posters even here who did indeed support the notion that he was a poor, unwitting dupe of EB and made varying excuses as to why he should not be held responsible for what happened to Zahra. When all is said and done they are as entitled to that opinion AND to voice it here despite the majority consensus as I and you are to the opposite. We can't rewrite history and say just because the majority didn't/don't support an unpopular theory that no one else in a given forum did/does.
 
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You are sad "because it sounds like DB's son has completely lost all contact with the paternal side of his family, grandparents included" Who do you think is at fault here? I think the father is a self centered,horrible dad.

Not knowing anything about him I wouldn't say SB is horrible and self-centered. As with many vets he may have suffered serious psychological injuries from his time in the middle east. He may not have contact with his son because of such injuries and doesn't want his son to see him that way. His step-mother may feel caught in the middle or may have simply separated herself from people she is not biologically connected to. JMO.
 
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I have seen mistakes on both sides, LEs and the parents. LE has run to the media when they have felt that the parents were not co-operating in an apparent effort to force the parents to cave. The parents have stood their ground and said no more interviews unless they are with new detectives that have not interviewed them before. It appears that this is now a point of who is going to flinch first. If I put myself in the parents position and I had nothing at all to do with my child missing then I too would stand my ground. I would not agree to an unrestricted interview and would advise LE that they need to go through my lawyer with any questions or requests that they may have for me. I most certainly would be comepletely concerned about my child and wanting my child to be found and the perpetrator brought to justice but I would not allow LE to frame me for the crime. I personally do not believe that LE are completely credible in everything they say and/or do. LE are human beings and as such they are bound to make mistakes and at times have tunnel vision. It doesn't mean that LE does it with malice, it could be what LE thinks is best and it could be completely wrong.

MOO
 
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Not knowing anything about him I wouldn't say SB is horrible and self-centered. As with many vets he may have suffered serious psychological injuries from his time in the middle east. He may not have contact with his son because of such injuries and doesn't want his son to see him that way. His step-mother may feel caught in the middle or may have simply separated herself from people she is not biologically connected to. JMO.

SB didn't even know DB had Lisa. Married to the guy and doesn't tell him she's pregnant. Oops, well I guess it's out of the bag - she probably admitted to it after the amber alert, like the wine after the video.
 
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This is NOT evidence pointing to Lisa being dead. There was one hit by a cadaver dog . . . respectfully, maybe you should read the Cadaver Dog thread.

Cadaver dog hit on scent in DBs bedroom - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Point made, thanks (back to lurking)

If you read the search warrant a box is checked. That box that KCPD wanted to search for? "Deceased fetus or corpse."


Read into that what you want. But helps explain why they asked the judge for a search warrant of the home and that's part of the reason X-Ray equipment was brought in and the backyard was dug up. They didn't just check the X by property. They checked the box by deceased fetus or corpse.
 
  • #237
Correct. Too much spin here (which I understand - he IS DB's dad afterall) but LE calling DB "white trash?" Really? :rolleyes:

This isn't the first time I've heard of LE (although here in Ontario) being brutal with mom's of missing children. Victoria Stafford case ~ her mother was accused by police in almost the same words by LE...failed a poly too...raked over the coals on fb pages and HERE at WS. Toris older brother, when questioned, was very distraught because they (LE) couldn't get past mom and step-dad. My exe is LE and at that time I asked him if LE could actually say these things/treat a mom this way and his response was : OH and some. So I don't put anything past them.
 
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If you read the search warrant a box is checked. That box that KCPD wanted to search for? "Deceased fetus or corpse."


Read into that what you want. But helps explain why they asked the judge for a search warrant of the home and that's part of the reason X-Ray equipment was brought in and the backyard was dug up. They didn't just check the X by property. They checked the box by deceased fetus or corpse.

Link please.
 
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Ha HA!! YOU'S A WS'ER TOO!! :greetings::newbie::welcome4::fireworks:

:seeya: Hi ya essies and thank you for the warm welcome.
 
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