2010.12.03 Agreement: No Death Penalty, Life In Prison For Elisa Baker

[DLT88]

TY for this update, NoeticSoul!

snipped from link:

In return, sources said, prosecutors agreed not to charge Elisa Baker with first-degree murder, meaning that if she’s convicted, she would not face the death penalty or life in prison without parole.

That’s how the case stands now, but sources told Channel 9 that the prosecutor may be trying to have the agreement tossed out and has asked the attorney general’s office to get involved.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/26012582/detail.html

I HOPE she gets a sentence of 50 years because she'll have to serve at least 25 which will put her in her mid-60's by the time she would get paroled. By that time, EB could keep getting in trouble in prison -- fighting, etc. and be denied parole so let's keep HOPING she gets the longest sentence possible and misbehaves in prison and keeps getting more time tacked on! She has other crimes, too, like bigamy, threats, bad checks, etc. that will get added on. They must have thought they could get her enough time behind bars to warrant giving her this d*mn deal.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Really, I just want to know how on earth an attorney could quite possibly defend this woman?

This is seriously the worst case I've ever heard of.

 

[agathawannabe]

I wonder if this could encourage/inspire (possible) other parties to the crime(s) related to Zahra's death to come forward now to strike their own deals. Speculating: I wonder if this "leak" might be meant to serve as a hint/reminder that deals are sometimes an option to these perpetrators - if they'll just go talk.

Quoting myself

Hmmm.. what I said above presumes the "leak" originated from LE/prosecution. (And I really haven't seen any tendencies toward "leakiness" on the part of LE).

But what if.. the "leak" originated from the office of a high profile defense attorney who had been pulled from the case (taken off the state's payroll) and had just learned the DA is seeking to have a cooperative deal she negotiated for her "client" overturned by the attorney general?

Just sayin'...

*sigh*

 

[mytime]

Does anyone know why the Q & A thread for AY is now locked? Or where it has been moved too?

 

[passionflower]

how many twists and turns will this case take.
IMO, LE has ALLOT more info from EB that we know of,
can't even imagine!
I've calmed down alittle now, and think there are a few loopholes
in this document IF her info is true!
With all her other charges and Zahra's death, IMO she will be in
til she dies .............if EB goes into general public she won't last long with the ladies.
Same fate to AB..........mama won't be there to hold his hand!!!

 

[passionflower]

Does anyone know why the Q & A thread for AY is now locked? Or where it has been moved too?

To my knowlege, everyone was asking questions, but he didn't come back to answer....................AY left. Maybe he will be back, maybe LE told him to stop talking, maybe he has a lawyer????

 

[mytime]

Most high profile inmates are kept segregated. The prison sytem does make every effort to keep prisoners safe. IMO, EB will never be put in general population. She will be safe and protected, something that Zahra was denied.

 

[raisincharlie]

And the system failed Zahra again.

This is the bottom line for me as well, sadly.

 

[impatientredhead]

I am taking deep cleansing breaths and telling myself this is bad reporting. Sure the death penalty is off the table, they weren't going after it anyway. But we have not read the agreement, I refuse to believe the struck a deal with her that excludes a life sentence, doesn't require a plea, allows a full trial, and hasn't resulted in a murder one indictment against someone else.

What we have to work with now cannot be accurate.
They did not trade the whole farm for the locations of the body on day ten.
They couldn't have.

 

[dar107]

Ok, don't anyone faint or anything, but let's just suppose, that maybe she is the one that is only guilty to a degree. I mean even those of us who think AB is involved have thought EB was the ring leader...what if it's the other way around and hence the deal???

I've definitely toyed with the theory that there is an even bigger monster then EB in this.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I don't have a problem with defense attorneys. They are an invaluable part of our justice system, imo. Checks and balances. I shudder to think that anyone, no matter what they have done, might not recieve competent legal representation in our judicial system.

JMO

 

[mytime]

To my knowlege, everyone was asking questions, but he didn't come back to answer....................AY left. Maybe he will be back, maybe LE told him to stop talking, maybe he has a lawyer????

He was on late last night, early am and answered a few questions, but now the thread is locked!

 

[raisincharlie]

I am taking deep cleansing breaths and telling myself this is bad reporting. Sure the death penalty is off the table, they weren't going after it anyway. But we have not read the agreement, I refuse to believe the struck a deal with her that excludes a life sentence, doesn't require a plea, allows a full trial, and hasn't resulted in a murder one indictment against someone else.

What we have to work with now cannot be accurate.
They did not trade the whole farm for the locations of the body on day ten.
They couldn't have.

Supposedly, according to Dubb's motion - the cooperation began on or abouts the 25th of October. The SWs state EB took LE around to places on the 26th of October. So why was it that the remains on Dudley Shoals were not located until 10 November -I don't see that as a lot of cooperation myself. Just saying.

 

[matou]

Mourners angry: http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2010/dec/03/mourners-angry-about-prosecution-agreement-ar-589341/

 

[impatientredhead]

To my knowlege, everyone was asking questions, but he didn't come back to answer....................AY left. Maybe he will be back, maybe LE told him to stop talking, maybe he has a lawyer????

He said his posts were being discussed on other sites and said if it continued he would leave. I think the mods are tired of deleting all the posts debating how horrible it is that someone would copy his post and discuss it elsewhere versus he posted on a public forum and we discuss peoples posts from myspace and facebook every day. I think everytime they delete the topic and clean up and it pops back up when some reads his post for the first time. My post already got deleted so I am staying away. And if this post get pulled mods don't time me out. I was just trying to answering the question.:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:

 

[strach304]

This is disgusting!!! Especially considering she's the most likely choice for murder. There is no way that this woman should ever be let out into society again.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

He said his posts were being discussed on other sites and said if it continued he would leave. I think the mods are tired of deleting all the posts debating how horrible it is that someone would copy his post and discuss it elsewhere versus he posted on a public forum and we discuss peoples posts from myspace and facebook every day. I think everytime they delete the topic and clean up and it pops back up when some reads his post for the first time. My post already got deleted so I am staying away. And if this post get pulled mods don't time me out. I was just trying to answering the question.:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:

O/T

I believe Kimster closed the thread because people were asking days worth of questions, and AY only comes here periodically. The questions were piling up with just a handful of replies. Her thinking, I believe , is to allow a few questions and then close the thread until AY alerts that he wants it opened to reply to questions. That was my take on what Kimster said, anyway.

 

[westsidefox64]

Does anyone know why the Q & A thread for AY is now locked? Or where it has been moved too?

I think they lock it between him being here so he isnt overwhelmed. He can alert a mod when hes ready to answer and then they let a few questions through and lock it again. HTH

 

[Lera213]

Good because given the light of this news, I want a follow up question to him since he stated he was giving the Benefit of the doubt to AB, because he didn't believe a word EB said. Now that she is telling the truth and has been cooperating...what does he think now?

 

[Virgogalsue]

I am shocked by this turn of events! Even if 50 years is still on the table....now that the DP and Life in Prison has been taken off the table, I wonder what is left that could motivate EB to tell the truth?

Does the US have a 'dangerous offender' statute...which keeps people locked up in either prison or a mental health hospital??

IMO she is probably a 'Borderline' or a 'Psychopath'...both of which can rarely ever be rehabilitated!