2011.01.06 Baez Slapped with Formal Sanction

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Question: If indeed these documents were obtained by WESH after having been filed with the court, would there not be some sort of official looking stamp from the clerk somewhere...forthwith not withstanding? Sorry, had a CM moment.

If you look at the check -- it says page 3 of 3. Perhaps the court stamp is on the cover page or page 1 was a copy of the order from JP. I would think that JB bar number info should have been on the check - but maybe that was on the cover page. I think that the court has to inform the bar of all sanctions - correct Beach or AZ?
I think the reason they included the letter is for the case number in which the sanction/order was attributed to. They probably hope CM golf buddy will have a tender moment reading this. They also wanted the public to see they asked nicely and SA are so mean that they want to destroy a career <----- but, IMHO that puppy will backfire on them like the 911 call of CA.
All just my take on it, only!
 
You can't fax a CHECK, can you?

In court the judge requested a copy of the check be given to him so JB's office faxed a copy of the check to show he had complied with the judge's order (otherwise JB would again be in contempt). Not sure why the letter was attached. jmo
 
If it was faxed from JB's office maybe someone did not think to just do a cover sheet and the check and sent the letter in error. I don't think the letter had to be reported to the clerk's office. So, again, someone in JB's office not paying attention sent too much information. jmo

I suppose that is possible.
I am leaning towards "they sent it to WESH on purpose." I wonder now if the letter was even filed with the court. I've seen too much of how these two attorneys work to believe they do anything in error.
 
Aedrys ~
I think you have nailed it in your above post. Very powerfull reasoning and thoughts.

I just read that letter also, and it is an admission that some sort of talking has been going on behind the scene, and, Mason mentioned it and made it clear.

And, maybe that is the reason that it was filed, for that reason. So that it could be
proven that there have been discussions, and an attempt to negotiate, something.

Mason may not walk out with Casey on his arm, but, he can walk out with his dignity for pulling this off, and, with whatever is left of Baez's reputation, such as it is.
 
You can't fax a CHECK, can you?

No, but you can fax a copy of the check to the clerk.

I am 99.9% sure that the letter and the check were hand-delivered to the SA.

I guess they faxed a copy of the check AND the letter to the clerk's office. Although I don't understand why they wanted to include the letter.

Although, it is very strange that neither the check copy or the letter is file-stamped. The clerk would not officially stamp the fax cover page.

hmmm...Did WESH have this first? :innocent:
 
No, but you can fax a copy of the check to the clerk.

I am 99.9% sure that the letter and the check were hand-delivered to the SA.

I guess they faxed a copy of the check AND the letter to the clerk's office. Although I don't understand why they wanted to include the letter.

Although, it is very strange that neither the check copy or the letter is file-stamped. The clerk would not officially stamp the fax cover page.

hmmm...Did WESH have this first? :innocent:

BBM
That is what I'm thinking. :innocent:
 
No, but you can fax a copy of the check to the clerk.

I am 99.9% sure that the letter and the check were hand-delivered to the SA.

I guess they faxed a copy of the check AND the letter to the clerk's office. Although I don't understand why they wanted to include the letter.

Although, it is very strange that neither the check copy or the letter is file-stamped. The clerk would not officially stamp the fax cover page.

hmmm...Did WESH have this first? :innocent:

From past experiences with "filings", it has been Baez' standing operating procedure to file things with his media outlets before it ever hits the clerks office ~!
 
I am seldom speechless...however the only thing I can think to say would get me:slap: Surely Judge Perry will not give the defense a pass on this one...will he??????

No, he will not. Remain calm everyone. The judge does not enjoy the reputation he has by ruling, then setting aside his own rulings. Judge Perry is not the kind of guy that makes empty threats. He is not the parent you see telling the child I am counting to three, one.....two....
then starting the counting all over again.
He is not that guy. Motion will be denied, and he will grab the next pile of documents, what's your next motion....

Otherwise the threat of sanctions would become a joke in his courtroom. That is the one thing he will not have. I believe that as sure as the sun comes up in the morning. He made a ruling. He will stand by it. I wish the Anthonys cared half as much for that baby's justice as you all do friends. Glad to know you.....all of you! I sure wouldn't wanna play on any team opposing you!!!! You guys and gals remind me of Meghan Kelly! She sure set it straight for Cindy Anthony!! I bet she wouldn't back up off of sanctions. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJl3S4Shkjk[/ame]

Well, after reading Mr. Hornsby's new post, .....I am still....hopeful, not positive, but hopeful. lol

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/category/casey-anthony/
He knows his Florida law!!!!
 
No, but you can fax a copy of the check to the clerk.

I am 99.9% sure that the letter and the check were hand-delivered to the SA.

I guess they faxed a copy of the check AND the letter to the clerk's office. Although I don't understand why they wanted to include the letter.

Although, it is very strange that neither the check copy or the letter is file-stamped. The clerk would not officially stamp the fax cover page.

hmmm...Did WESH have this first? :innocent:

Could page one have been a copy of the order? Maybe WESH just didn't post that? And it contains the official stamp?
 
From past experiences with "filings", it has been Baez' standing operating procedure to file things with his media outlets before it ever hits the clerks office ~!

Maybe this is a type of checkbook journalism?.....we will never know....but I wouldn't put it pass him
 
I was hoping another news source would have the check and letter, then I could see if there were any differences in headers or numbers, etc. However, it seems WESH is the only station to have received this. I'll keep looking.
 
I was hoping another news source would have the check and letter, then I could see if there were any differences in headers or numbers, etc. However, it seems WESH is the only station to have received this. I'll keep looking.

Maybe Muzikman got it?
 
Trutv announced ICA is going to be at the hearing! Sanctions will come up, I just know it!
 


Richard Hornsby

"This brings me to my professional opinion &#8211; from a professional standpoint Judge Perry&#8217;s order to pay the State&#8217;s attorney fees is clearly prohibited by existing case law. Specifically, absent statutory authority, a trial court has no legal authority to require either a prosecutor or a defense attorney to pay &#8220;attorney fees&#8221; or &#8220;court costs&#8221; to the other side or to the court. See State v. Nelson, 27 So. 3d 758 (Fla. 3d DCA 2010) (&#8220;The trial court does not have inherent authority to assess costs against the State Attorney&#8217;s Office in criminal cases.&#8221;); Williams v. State, 596 So. 2d 758 (Fla. 5th DCA 1992) (&#8220;It is well established that a court lacks the power to impose costs in a criminal case unless specifically authorized by statute;&#8221; dealing with circuit wide practice of fining defendants for wasting judicial resources by waiting until day of trial to plea.).

If Judge Perry wanted to legally fine Jose Baez, he would have had to hold him in contempt and hold a contempt hearing. See State v. Shelton, 584 So. 2d 1118 (Fla. 5th DCA 1991) (&#8220;Only through the use of criminal contempt procedures, direct or indirect, can a trial court assess fines or costs against an attorney in a criminal case.&#8221;). However Judge Perry specifically stated that he was not finding Jose Baez in contempt &#8211; for now. Thus his order requiring Jose Baez to pay the State Attorney&#8217;s office $583.73 was illegal."

Richard Hornsby is always right on the facts and right on the law in this matter, so I will defer to him and say I may be wrong. He is the criminal defense expert in Orlando, so he comes from a place of knowing where I come from a place of hope.:seeya: Nevertheless, I still hope the judge stands firm. I couldn't care less about the six hundred bucks, I care about the court order for all of the experts to file reports being followed, that is the part I want upheld.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/category/casey-anthony/

Thank you flip flop for posting this, it is very instuctive!!! Thank you so much
! I just have faith that the judge has an agle that wasn't readily apparent to Mr. Hornsby. He does not seem to ever wing it, he quotes too often from case law to worry me that he isn't on solid growd. We are all human, but I have faith he will figure it out in a way that does not cause an appeal to succeed, at the end of the day. Judge Perry did not get to his position he holds by mistake. He KNOWS what he is doing. I am sure he thought about it very seriously before imposing the sanctions. I feel confident about him and his rulings. He has only been reversed one half of one time. That record speaks for itself.

Again, I do not care about the fine, I want to see the expert reports. DO WE HAVE THOSE YET?!!!!
 
I was hoping another news source would have the check and letter, then I could see if there were any differences in headers or numbers, etc. However, it seems WESH is the only station to have received this. I'll keep looking.

I have checked also...only WESH has it..

Did someone from Baez's office Fax it to Court Admin Office and a WESH reporter, having good fortune or insight, happened to be there at that time in order to get a copy...

Even today as I search....Other than WESH, No other media outlet has posted an article about it with a copy of the letter or check..
 
I don't often agree 100% with what he says...but in this case I do. I believe that's why there is conversation between the parties. I think that JP was sending a message and the message was clear. Clear, but perhaps not SOP according to law. I believe that JP wants the sides working more closely together...but how this will happen is beyond me. Perhaps the letter is a start.

Hi RR, ITA with your assessment of Perry's intention/message with the impositions of sanctions, but I kind of disagree with Hornsby's interpretation of the case law. Bear in mind I'm not a Florida attorney, so take my opinion for what it's worth....nothing. LOL

In the cases Hornsby cites as controlling:

Specifically, absent statutory authority, a trial court has no legal authority to require either a prosecutor or a defense attorney to pay “attorney fees” or “court costs” to the other side or to the court. See State v. Nelson, 27 So. 3d 758 (Fla. 3d DCA 2010) (“The trial court does not have inherent authority to assess costs against the State Attorney’s Office in criminal cases.”);

IMO, the KEY word in this case's rule is "inherent". To me, the word inherent in this context leaves the door open for special case-by-case circumstances. I interpret it as, "as a general rule, the courts can't just willy nilly assess costs in criminal cases (but, CAN assess costs if circumstances call for it). That's totally JMO, though.

The other case he cited (Williams), talks about how the court can't assess costs unless there's a specific statute allowing it. In this instance, there was statutory authority for Perry to impose sanctions. (statute being Florida rules of criminal discovery).

Up here, (canada), statute always trumps case law, and I'm sure it's the same in Florida. I'm not saying Hornsby is wrong, I'm just offering my two canadian pennies.
 
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