2011.03.17 - Billie Dunn was arrested, Thread #3

[Donjeta]

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.

This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html

So, why did he? I don't know what this is supposed to suggest.

I doubt he really thinks that just being "anyway" associated with Shawn is gonna get Billie charged with a crime since I'm not aware of any law that says being associated with people is a crime. However, if the said people commit crimes together that's a different story.

What I would like to hear the attorney's explanation for is, if Billie really had been warned that being with Shawn was going to get her charged with a crime, why did she choose to ignore that warning and be with Shawn straight away, just a few hours after getting a no trespassing order?

 

[sorrell skye]

IIRC, LE stated the witness sightings could not be corroborated because they didn't match up with electronic data.

I also remember LE stating that some of the witness statements kept changing.

But I think that discussion is off topic for this thread.

I'm surprised Mr. Young has stated that his client will continue to give interviews to the media. What can he hope to gain for his client by endorsing media interviews? Nothing, that I can tell.

But he certainly does stand to gain publicity for himself.

 

[ThoughtFox]

They were not disproven. That was kinda my point. Just because they do not fit the LE timeline does not make them untrue. If they are untrue fine say they are, if they are only not coroborated because you cant, as an LE prove them then say that. They said nothing. Them not fitting their timeline is a silly reason to dismiss them and could prevent a case from being closed. IMO.

Good job! That could be the Defense Opening Statement!

Seriously, that is exactly what they will say. And since they don't have to "prove" beyond anything but a reasonable doubt, they have nothing to lose in bringing up those sightings.

That isn't the same thing as trying to find Hailey however, and I'm sticking to my statement that finding her would complicate their job considerably unless BD is completely exonerated (and she might still have to answer for the ).

I am not assuming the police are on the wrong track. I think they could be correct. I have not seen anything of any evidence that makes me think anything other than SA MIGHT be guilty. I am not assuming he is innocent nor I am assuming his guilt . We dont know anything other then the . I wonder if LE has anything in HD'S case

I would say we know that he was the last one to see Hailey, and that's pretty important, imo.

I am being objective.

Objective doesn't always mean you have to stay on the fence. I'm objective, too. I gave BD the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but she keeps digging a deeper hole every time she speaks, imo.

Why couldnt LE clear that up in the media instead of clearing up the dating status of SA and BD? LE has not responded to important information in this case ,but now has time to call Blog radio shows, and make comments in the news on the couple. Yes that bugs me ,not for SA or BD but for Hailey.

It's their job to investigate those close to Hailey. If they didn't, they would not be doing their job in the name of the victim.

LE didnt comment on anything Hailey related for a while and let PK misstatements about BD not being a POI in the case stand or didnt feel it important to tell the media when the status went back from non POI to POI again. If it is putting them in the hot seat that makes me think that LE has less evidence then they want us to know they have IMO.

LE was waiting to see what BD and SA would do, in my opinion. They don't really owe us any explanations during a missing person's case. They have reasons for keeping secrets.

I never said I assume the police to be on the wrong track. I also dont think the questions I have asked are self explanatory without making leaps of judgements based in theory because we do not have fact and we have no confirmation that LE has any either people are assuming they hae something. JMO.

Yes, but statements made by POI's and "Suspects" are evidence, too, as are the objects taken from their houses, as well as their behavior such as lying. All of that is evidence, and it's not a leap to judgment to consider those. You can't look at just one part of the case at a time, but the whole context of what is going on, and it can change based on new information. JMO

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=24386

Beau Berman
CBS 7 News
[email protected]
March 21, 2011

Colorado City, Texas - The mother of missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is hiring an attorney in advance of her court date for three misdemeanor charges.

 

[wonderella]

Sorry to hear about your friend. I am wondering; Was your friend's case high profile? Did Young work pro-bono or did her husband pay for his services?

Thanks. The case was relatively high-profile, but for this area (West Central Texas) only. My friend was
"missing" for a little less than 2 weeks before her body was recovered, so there wasn't a whole lot of time for the story to spread as Hailey's has. And yes, I believe Mr. Young's services were offered pro-bono.

 

[Kamille]

Thanks. The case was relatively high-profile, but for this area (West Central Texas) only. My friend was
"missing" for a little less than 2 weeks before her body was recovered, so there wasn't a whole lot of time for the story to spread as Hailey's has. And yes, I believe Mr. Young's services were offered pro-bono.

So as we've suspected, Mr Young has likely been trying to insert himself into another local high profile case for some time. I hope it backfires on him and BD gives him quite a time.

MOO

 

[For The Kids]

I would say we know that he was the last one to see Hailey, and that's pretty important, imo.

Actually we dont know that at all. We have no proof whatosever that Hailey was alive when Billie went to work that day.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I would really like them to tell us what his investigators have learned in Haileys missing person case and NOT in Billie Dunns relationship. JMO.
LE does remember this is not about Billie Dunn right ? Clint needs to get Haileys Name back out there before people forget this is not about SA's collection and his girlfriends(plural) sex tapes. IMO.

I would like for them to tell us what they have learned as well, but since whatever they have learned will most likely be used as evidence at a trial in the future (hopefully the very near future) they aren't going to tell us any more details than they feel necessary in order to further the investigation...and IMHO rightfully so..

Unfortunately, Billie Dunn has put herself and her relationship with SA front and center in this investigation..not LE..Respectfully, I believe it's Billie who would do well to remember that she has a "kid that's missing" (her words not mine)..as it appears to me at least that she is the one who has forgotten about Hailey..and wishes everyone else would do the same IMHO...If I had a nickle for every time she has even said Hailey's name in the last few months, I still couldn't even buy a soda..what a shame and disgrace. Hailey deserved So Much more...

 

[mysteriew]

LE has not responded to important information in this case ,but now has time to call Blog radio shows, and make comments in the news on the couple. Yes that bugs me ,not for SA or BD but for Hailey.
LE didnt comment on anything Hailey related for a while and let PK misstatements about BD not being a POI in the case stand or didnt feel it important to tell the media when the status went back from non POI to POI again. If it is putting them in the hot seat that makes me think that LE has less evidence then they want us to know they have IMO.

I never said I assume the police to be on the wrong track. I also dont think the questions I have asked are self explanatory without making leaps of judgements based in theory because we do not have fact and we have no confirmation that LE has any either people are assuming they hae something. JMO.

LE is not required to give out any info on any case. Traditionally they will respond to most media questions, and they will give out info when they are looking for info in return. But most LE will protect as much of their investigation as they can.

IOW if a reporter finds out some info and comes to LE and says "I hear this happened" they may confirm or deny. But they don't usually add too many details. Unless they feel that it may help their case somehow. They don't have any obligation to share details with the public until the case is ready to go to court. Actually that is pretty fair. What if the person they are investigating actually turned out to be innocent and they found that out later? There would be no way to take back all the things they had found out about them in the investigation.

They do sometimes release info they feel may help their case. Sometimes letting out one little detail can jar the memories of a witness who didn't know they were a witness, or make a witness decide to come forward. Sometimes they may even use the public to help keep an eye on someone. Usually when LE gives out details, they are very carefully evaluated details, with consideration to how it will affect their case. LE does give out some details about a death or disappearance. But what they give out is usually very general, and more to satisfy the public than any desire to make case info public.

Do we even know if LE is the one who is trying to find out info on meetings? Or is it that reporters are listening to scanners, keeping their ears open and being available to the public, then going to LE for confirmation?

 

[cluciano63]

If reporters were listening to scanners all day, then WS'ers would not have to contact the media when a rumor appears on FB, to have them check it out, as happened last week when LE was at Billie's...

 

[KR2tonenow]

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Please continue here.

Gosh-I've been on Hiatus looks like I missed alot. Thanks for the threads!!

 

[KR2tonenow]

But who in the heck would lie over something like that unless they too had something to hide? I just honestly can't wrap my brain around any of this.



~jmo~

Right, well all part of the plan to get her to crack!

 

[mmmagique]

Well her attorney is going to have to do 2 things. Keep her trap shut and keep her away from Shawn. I dont think he can do that.

FR: I wonder which one would be the most difficult!!

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

This is SICK & getting SICKER!!!! I don't care to deal with family's who have no intention of being decent God fearing parents. SICK !!!!:banghead:

 

[ThoughtFox]

Well her attorney is going to have to do 2 things. Keep her trap shut and keep her away from Shawn. I dont think he can do that.

FR: I wonder which one would be the most difficult!!

I think both are well-nigh impossible. Good luck to Mr. Young!

He'll probably feel like "Mr. Old" before he's finished with this case, LOL. :crazy:

 

[curiousc]

NewsWest 9
Geena Martinez is working on her exclusive story for NewsWest9 at Six. Hear from the attorney now representing the mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

 

[epiphany]

NewsWest 9
Geena Martinez is working on her exclusive story for NewsWest9 at Six. Hear from the attorney now representing the mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

SNIPPED; BBM

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14318202

Young is also representing Dunn in anything that's related to the search for Hailey and it's a move he wishes she would've done a long time ago.

AND

"They were seen together in Snyder," Young said. "Well both of them have family in Snyder. They may have been in Snyder at the same time that doesn't necessarily follow that they were together."

"It is a logically false premise that because you love someone and he's a suspect you therefore are guilty," Young said.

 

[WillenFan21]

(SNIPPED)

MIDLAND - The lawyer for Billie Dunn is speaking out. He's only been on the job for a few days, but he has plenty to say about the situation facing the mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

Dunn has hired an attorney out of Sweetwater named John Young and he tells NewsWest 9 he is now representing Billie in all aspects of the three criminal charges against her. You'll remember after her arrest last week, Dunn was charged with hindering apprehension,apprehension, possession of a dangerous drug and lying to police.

Young is also representing Dunn in anything that's related to the search for Hailey and it's a move he wishes she would've done a long time ago.

"I think she (Billie) is a decent and good young woman who is desperately hoping to find her daughter alive," Young said.

TONS MORE AT:

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14318202

 

[grandmaj]

Mr. Young's excuse for BD lying to the police.

"Some in law enforcement had suggested strongly to Billie that any association with Shawn Adkins was going to be considered evidence of guilt," Young said. "Sometimes matters of the heart are hard to break. She got scared and she said he's not here."

That is not what Billie said in interviews. She said Shawn didn't want to see them. She said he came over on his own and she called his mother to come get him. She said they were having an argument.

Interesting new reason for lying to the police.

 

[Breathe]

Dunn's attorney said the charge of possessing a dangerous drug is being looked into. Young said that drug was actually a muscle relaxer and Dunn does have a prescription for it, but right now he is working to confirm the history of that prescription.

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14318202