2011.04.06 Sidebar Thread

[Tulessa]

i attended hearing today. started late 9:30 as they were setting up video conference. ended about 5:15 pm . short breaks. judge did a tv interview during break about loan budget and said he is very busy and missed his lunch today-lol. he does have humor and is a nice man to reporters. lots of back and forth with drs and scientist - seemed like same thing over and over until jeff comes forward. he is very powerful and good!!

said a few words to cindy - shes going to be needing a lot of support from friends when trial starts. at times i saw her head down and her shaking a bit . when words of decomp, maggots ect. i felt so bad for her. what pain she must have to have to go thru this all and she loved caylee a lot. others sitting near me commented on how they felt bad for her too.


no george today. cindys friend is always by her side. she must be a real good friend as she never lets cindy be alone in court. i did not expect 8 hours. parking was more than disney world. $15.00 for day. judge said status will be 9am friday. i must admit i felt myself nod off a couple times- it was very long day and some was repeptive i felt. hope camera did not catch me sleeping-lol.
deputy said media passes were going to get in first then extra seats at trial.

casey looked like a young teen college girl. cotton blouse black and white checked. grey sweater - slacks. hair plain in poney tail. she did some writing but all in all she remained very focused it seemed on listening . not so hyper today. some said she lies but maybe she did not kill caylee. will not say who i heard it from but two different people said it.one asked if i thought she was guilty and i always say - only thing i know is she lied and has some bizare behaviors in past and i say - let jury decide. when i look at her in court it seems like this can not be a mom who kills her child- the mind tries to process this for me- looks can not judge cause she looks like a pretty chearleader. the image of sexy is gone.except when she wears sweaters perhaps that cling. bless caylee and those who had no part in her death that loved her.

LML, thanks for sharing you experience, That's why I love WS. Differing opinions are always encouraged and welcomed.:blowkiss:

 

[beach]

I was not at the hearing today. I'm trying to find some balance. Yesterday I stayed away from WS for many hours and actually felt better after doing some hh chores I'd been neglecting. Today, too. Now I'll be up all night watching the hearings. Last time I went to the hearing I felt physically repulsed by CA and her negative expressions and anger at the LE, the canines, etc. At the time all I was thinking about was her poor baby grandchild, Caylee, and all she was thinking about was her daughter. Made me sick. I didn't want to be in that room with her anymore. This may be abstract to some but being there and seeing CA and JB schmoozing makes me want to throw up, literally vomit. I'm just taking a break.

I totally get it too, Amil. I've gotten very attached to clients and cases that I believed strongly in and it would affect my own emotional state & home life. You're right, it is about balance. Sometimes it is best to just take a step back, breathe and regroup. So many of us have invested so much over the past 3 years, emotionally speaking. I can't even imagine how you must feel witnessing the things you described. My heart truly goes out to you. We appreciate all of the hearings you have attended and been so kind & generous to update us immediately after. You take care of yourself. :hug: I have a feeling after you've take some time away from this case, you will be better able to find the balance that works best for you.

:grouphug:

 

[Tulessa]

Ha ha ha - very funny..... there are some young 20 something boys that come and think ICA is the bomb. There are some church friends of CA's that ache for CA. That about sums it up. There are only about 3 people sitting on CA's side of the courtroom. There is not one person in that room that thinks ICA is innocent except for the above noted folks. Give me a break.

Honestly? i don't think I could stomach the trial. That's why I look forward t the posts of those that attend. Thank you Amil. :blowkiss:

 

[ZsaZsa]

I just browsed some blog pages before coming here- it seems Proctor and Gamble have responded to comments that Febreze might be responsible for Chloroform in the car- they stated that it is thoroughly tested, and does not contain any Chloroform. Sorry about that JB, you'll have to go to Plan B, which is the tiny wet swimsuit....:innocent:

 

[logicalgirl]

I was not at the hearing today. I'm trying to find some balance. Yesterday I stayed away from WS for many hours and actually felt better after doing some hh chores I'd been neglecting. Today, too. Now I'll be up all night watching the hearings. Last time I went to the hearing I felt physically repulsed by CA and her negative expressions and anger at the LE, the canines, etc. At the time all I was thinking about was her poor baby grandchild, Caylee, and all she was thinking about was her daughter. Made me sick. I didn't want to be in that room with her anymore. This may be abstract to some but being there and seeing CA and JB schmoozing makes me want to throw up, literally vomit. I'm just taking a break.

I understand why you were not there today - I always wondered how you could handle it and if you were planning on being there for much time during the trial. You have always managed to give us pretty "cheerful" reports back but I did wonder how much this was eating away at you sitting listening to all of this since I suspected I had a very good idea where your feelings lay. Hope you don't force too much on yourself, for your own sake.

 

[logicalgirl]

Just butting in to remind all to go the the Yuri Melich thread, click on 1st post on the first page of the thread and cast your vote for today!

Thx, sorry for the O/T and carry on! :rocker:

 

[Bravo]

I really appreciate the "pulse" of the Courtroom from those who attend. So much we miss from a camera view. It does appear to me as of today every one's demeanor has changed. From ICA to SA and Defense. Much more of a serious and professional demeanor. ICA looked very serious today.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Pip, is there some place I can go to refresh my memory on Judge Strickland's reaction to reading her psych eval? I must have missed that and would like to know more about that... Thanks!

You didn't miss it.. Here is a link to him discussing Casey and a psych eval. No evaluation had taken place, he wasn't reading it... he was ordering one. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GytMpGpEcuI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GytMpGpEcuI[/ame]

What he says is "Her mental condition.. which I can't begin to describe- and I'm going to order a psychological evaluation.." Danzinger and Burns (the "new witnesses") are the ones who did the eval after her bond was set.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I understand HIPAA, that's why I asked this question: Did these psychiatrists actually see her, examine her, render a diagnosis, treat her and or care for her? Was she their patient? Then HIPAA would apply.

Or have they just read about the case and maybe talked to her lawyers and then drew psych conclusions (much like we have here)? If so, I don't see how HIPAA would apply if she wasn't actually a patient.

I am curious as to how HIPAA is applied in a situation where the defense team is trying to get a certain psych evaluation for legal reasons in order to benefit their client in court. I would think (but don't know) that this has got nothing to do with the HIPAA law as it applies to an actual patient in a medical setting receiving care by health care providers.

Does anyone know the answer to this?

Yeah they did her psych eval ordered by Strickland

ETA- So we got nothing to worry about- she was let out on bond and charges were still filed afterwords!

 

[SunnyinMO]

I was not at the hearing today. I'm trying to find some balance. Yesterday I stayed away from WS for many hours and actually felt better after doing some hh chores I'd been neglecting. Today, too. Now I'll be up all night watching the hearings. Last time I went to the hearing I felt physically repulsed by CA and her negative expressions and anger at the LE, the canines, etc. At the time all I was thinking about was her poor baby grandchild, Caylee, and all she was thinking about was her daughter. Made me sick. I didn't want to be in that room with her anymore. This may be abstract to some but being there and seeing CA and JB schmoozing makes me want to throw up, literally vomit. I'm just taking a break.

Amil, I came to this thread to ask if you attended today, hoping to read your review of the day. I understand how you must feel after being so close to so much evil.....but selfishly I was hoping you had gone. I want you to know I appreciate the time and energy it takes to sit there. Thanks

 

[jon_burrows]

no george today. cindys friend is always by her side. she must be a real good friend as she never lets cindy be alone in court. i did not expect 8 hours. parking was more than disney world. $15.00 for day. judge said status will be 9am friday. i must admit i felt myself nod off a couple times- it was very long day and some was repeptive i felt. hope camera did not catch me sleeping-lol.
deputy said media passes were going to get in first then extra seats at trial.

Respectfully snipped and BBM: I believe CA's friend is the piano player for the church Cindy started attending after Caylee went missing. She went on the cruise with them or picked them up after the cruise. The nice church lady was screaming profanity at the press as she drove by. There was a video but I can't find it right now.

Anyone else remember this?

IMO

 

[SunnyinMO]

Ha ha ha - very funny..... there are some young 20 something boys that come and think ICA is the bomb. There are some church friends of CA's that ache for CA. That about sums it up. There are only about 3 people sitting on CA's side of the courtroom. There is not one person in that room that thinks ICA is innocent except for the above noted folks. Give me a break.

thanks Amil.....I can't beleive anyone who has watched this from the beginning that could have a great deal of sympathy for Cindy. I know some will disagree with me on this and that's fine....it's my opinion and I will own it.

 

[TxJan1971]

you didn't miss it.. Here is a link to him discussing casey and a psych eval. No evaluation had taken place, he wasn't reading it... He was ordering one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gytmpgpecui

what he says is "her mental condition.. Which i can't begin to describe- and i'm going to order a psychological evaluation.." danzinger and burns (the "new witnesses") are the ones who did the eval before her bond was set.

thank you so very much for this!!!!!

 

[Pattymarie]

thanks Amil.....I can't beleive anyone who has watched this from the beginning that could have a great deal of sympathy for Cindy. I know some will disagree with me on this and that's fine....it's my opinion and I will own it.

Getting a bad feeling on this thread...time to go...nite....

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

I just browsed some blog pages before coming here- it seems Proctor and Gamble have responded to comments that Febreze might be responsible for Chloroform in the car- they stated that it is thoroughly tested, and does not contain any Chloroform. Sorry about that JB, you'll have to go to Plan B, which is the tiny wet swimsuit....:innocent:

i just started a thread about my response from P&G

i believe them over JB and his um.. "experts"

 

[littlemisslegal]

LML, thanks for sharing you experience, That's why I love WS. Differing opinions are always encouraged and welcomed.:blowkiss:

thank you - i try to share observations. of course they are blended with my own thoughts perhaps. i tend to be sensitive to others feelings and can feel the tears a mom cries thru my very soul. i am very spiritual so i tend to feel others pain and try to see both sides. i only see a mom cindy who lost her grandchild, her daughterr may die, her family fell apart , her husband and her are not so happy maybe anymore , the national enq has posted on their personal life and i think i would not want one day of her life so i give her a break in my thoughts. wish caylee was alive so she can still love her grandbaby as she did and does. her daughter is a grown up and yet shes her child too.when you see them in person its not a soap opera- you see them as real.

 

[Softail]

WOW. Ya know, I have been reading here at WS long before I ever registered here. I never did until recently, because I did not want to be addicted any more than I already was as a lurker.

This case has changed me.

Having said that, I commend soo many here that go to the hearings, just to give 1st hand informaton. As well as everyone else who just feels as passionate as I do about this case.

I cannot even tell y'all how much I appreciate everything that ya do here! I'm trying really hard in my own way to contribute!

:great:

 

[OneLostGrl]

Respectfully snipped and BBM: I believe CA's friend is the piano player for the church Cindy started attending after Caylee went missing. She went on the cruise with them or picked them up after the cruise. The nice church lady was screaming profanity at the press as she drove by. There was a video but I can't find it right now.

Anyone else remember this?

IMO

Birds of a feather

 

[SailorMoon]

i attended hearing today. started late 9:30 as they were setting up video conference. ended about 5:15 pm . short breaks. judge did a tv interview during break about loan budget and said he is very busy and missed his lunch today-lol. he does have humor and is a nice man to reporters. lots of back and forth with drs and scientist - seemed like same thing over and over until jeff comes forward. he is very powerful and good!!

said a few words to cindy - shes going to be needing a lot of support from friends when trial starts. at times i saw her head down and her shaking a bit . when words of decomp, maggots ect. i felt so bad for her. what pain she must have to have to go thru this all and she loved caylee a lot. others sitting near me commented on how they felt bad for her too.


no george today. cindys friend is always by her side. she must be a real good friend as she never lets cindy be alone in court. i did not expect 8 hours. parking was more than disney world. $15.00 for day. judge said status will be 9am friday. i must admit i felt myself nod off a couple times- it was very long day and some was repeptive i felt. hope camera did not catch me sleeping-lol.
deputy said media passes were going to get in first then extra seats at trial.

casey looked like a young teen college girl. cotton blouse black and white checked. grey sweater - slacks. hair plain in poney tail. she did some writing but all in all she remained very focused it seemed on listening . not so hyper today. some said she lies but maybe she did not kill caylee. will not say who i heard it from but two different people said it.one asked if i thought she was guilty and i always say - only thing i know is she lied and has some bizare behaviors in past and i say - let jury decide. when i look at her in court it seems like this can not be a mom who kills her child- the mind tries to process this for me- looks can not judge cause she looks like a pretty chearleader. the image of sexy is gone.except when she wears sweaters perhaps that cling. bless caylee and those who had no part in her death that loved her.

Thanks for your update!! I'll bet it is different when you are there. Any idea who the nice dressed woman was sitting behind KC and then later sat beside her? And any idea what JB and Cindy were talking about in the beginning?

 

[littlemisslegal]

if you all were all there in person and then came home and posted you might see things a slight bit different when you try to type a post. i try to be somewhat private in thoughts , try to not say innocent or guilty as either way i would get attacked by words by some. for those who attend its nice to know not everyone judges US. its not about our typed words. my opinion will not matter on jury day . IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF posting what we see or feel was picked apart. it would make me feel keep my thoughts to myself . yet, i know some do appreciate the posts whether they agree or not. i would hate to have to delete my posts if they cause controversy.