2011.04.08 Frye Hearing Thread

[TiaM]

We all know what "your word" is worth Baez.

ZERO.

 

[Disguiseduser0308]

JB it doesn't matter if the DT agrees. It's the experts agreement in methodology. He's really not getting it.

 

[sleutherontheside]

JB is again making it all about him. We do not agree. Ummmmmmm error rates again?? Did he just say a Judge's error rate?????

Again.....doesn't error rate apply to Daubert not Frye????

 

[nachomama]

"Any brief rebuttal, Mr. Baez?"

JB is never brief .. he goes on and on and on

 

[jharres]

JB: It's a guesstimate and the word guesstimate starts with the word guess.

 

[logicalgirl]

JB not understanding we are talking about methodology not the results. Talking about comparing Judge error rates to scientific error rates - What?

 

[nursebeeme]

JB keeps saying "it is clear".... not sure what he is referring to

 

[Chiquita71]

JA: with respect to JB opinions of dr. vass, the jury will decide. the motion should be denied.
HH: thank you.

JB: i would hope that this court takes my word that we are not in agreement with JA. the state says we have all these science and it all agrees. I do not agree with Dr. Vass. Error rate, you cannot compare a judge's error rate...there is no agreement that the crude method of looking at two gas chromatagraphs and saying ,ah...

(imho: ja already covered this. the jury decides.)

JB: says the court decides who is an expert. the defense has no burden under frye.

 

[FaerieB]

"Guesstimate starts with the word 'guess.'" Thanks, JB.

 

[wenwe4]

jB - we do not agree . . . . you cannot compare an error rate and inserting into a procedure . . . .. there is no agreement that crude method of looking at a graph to say "oh yea it's the same' - it's a guestimate - starts with the word guess.

Mr. Ashton said we agreed and that is not . .. . who determines whether an expert is qualified is the court not the jury. the defense has no burden under frye -

 

[cloud9]

JB schooling JP AGAIN!
"It's a guessimite. Guestimite starts with guess."
:banghead:

 

[Chiquita71]

JB: these methods are not scientifically accepted. we did not call those witnesses because it is not our burden. it is not our burden during the whole case to prove anything.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Young Mr. Slabaugh looks a bit green about the gills....probably thinking he went to work for the wrong law firm.

His body language demonstrates TO ME disapproval of DT actions, namely JB. He constantly has a clenched fist.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Judge's error rate? OMG how tactless can this man be?
HHJP looks like he is listening just out of politeness and protocol at this point, but he knows more science and certainly more law than JB..

 

[darnudes]

JB keeps saying "it is clear".... not sure what he is referring to

Baez doesn't know either lol as he throws in another "quite frankly"

 

[wenwe4]

JB - we didn't call those experts because it's not our burden . . . . under frye we would have certainly called rickenbach and weiss to testify about crude methods of dr. vass

HHBP - next motion

JB - canine alerts

 

[Softail]

Canines next. JB at podium

 

[logicalgirl]

LOL - won't be our burden in this case to prove anything - per Baez....

 

[Chiquita71]

HH: next motion
JB: k-9 alerts


I thought we covered this!? Help, someone? really, k-9's...

 

[FaerieB]

Oh my goodness. It's not up to the DT to prove anything? Really?

ETA: I'm not referring to the case-in-chief here...I'm referring to DT motions.