2011.06.21 TRIAL Day Twenty-four (Morning Session)

[babycat]

JB: You have an accent...where ya from?

UGH!

I'm betting he asked this right off the bat so the jury wouldn't get sidetracked trying to place it/guess where he was from.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

No PH.D He has a Dutch degree that is between a B.Sc and M.Sc ...

I wonder if the judge saw Dr. in front of his name at some point because he did call him Dr.

 

[Stella5]

So let me get this straight... Eikelenboom & his wife decided he was an expert in DNA and appointed him the director of DNA of their farmhouse business? This is just getting better & better & better! I guess no DNA experts in the States would touch this DT.

 

[luv]

 

[sleutherontheside]

Additionally....let's remember that this witness didn't even expect to be called until recently.

THAT was fracking priceless.

 

[TiaM]

Yes, absolutely. and I bet HHJP will file a complaint with the FL bar.

I wish I believed that the Florida Bar had any credibility or "teeth", if you will.

First - after their initial denial of admitting Baez to the Bar, eight years later they thought - "Oh OK, well it took this dude 8 YEARS, but OK, whatever" and let him in.

Now, after NUMEROUS Bar complaints on this case alone, as well as on the Diaz case, they have never imposed any penalties on him whatsoever. None. Nada. Zip.

Baez is not afraid of HHJP's threats, and he is not afraid of the Florida Bar. Besides, if they do grow some (items in CA's purse), he's got Plan A1 all lined up with a couple of networks. :banghead:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

It's great that JB will face sanctions AFTER the trial......but in the mean time, he has this trial and this Judge held hostage and the effects that it will have on this could become a total "fluster cluck". This can't go on. It simply can't.

Wait until they get to Bill Rodriguez and how he testified that he's a co-founder of the Body Farm - which HE ISN'T.

Its only going to get worse.

 

[Eidetic]

Are the pop tarts in or out?

They're in.

 

[fifteen89]

Baez asking q's like accents is his ineffective attempt to appear charming.

Ugh. Just ugh.

 

[costalpilot]

wow the gift that just keeps on giving (that doesn't makes sense---neither does this from today....6-21-2011):

Jose Baez to da judge :

".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

That is what Jose said. Does anyone have ANY idea what he is trying to say?

 

[Soulmagent]

HHJP is trying to MAKE SURE that ICA does not get a re-do. I have NO DOUBT that JB will be dealt with SEVERELY after this trial.

Well quite honestly I do think she deserves a do over. Her lawyer is very bad. Not objecting to things he should have ,siting ineffective case laws, not having reports ready or completed.

There are many many things that show examples of that in this trial.

Daiz Also deserves a new trial based on his same ineffective counsil.

Baez has said himself ,maybe I am not explaining this right or maybe I am not being clear etc.. it is all over court record that he is even doubting himself.

 

[STEADFAST]

“...and you and your wife appointed you as ...” Love JA

Well, his wife is going to fire him when she finds out he let Baez blame her for the report "kerfuffle."

 

[logicalgirl]

This AM we have had the Defence Witnesses Dr. Bock and Dr. Eckinbloom.

Apparently LG has again dropped into the Mad Hatter's Tea Party!

 

[~Lisa~]

RedHuberRed Huber
George Anthony is not in #caseyanthony courtroom.

 

[aprilraindance]

This poor witness is an expert in what exactly? I am not a stupid person but I am not a brain surgeon either.. I am lost here ... :maddening:

 

[greycoupon]

After all this I wonder what R elkinburgh is thinking about JB. Does he realize that, if allowed, he will be walking into a coyote den, and a ‘rude’ one at that.

A den blessed with coyotes?

 

[Turnadot]

I have a lot of respect for scientists all over the world, but Ashton has every right to challenge this crap. And IMO, it's crap. They appointed themselves, and word 'round the campfire is they aren't all they claim to be, in regards to touch DNA.

 

[wundermommy76]

Because they didn't have this theory either. When they came up with it they could not go back in time and change these reports, so they moved foward. It seems the theory was more important than violating the court orders.

Bottom line is that the JUDGE will allow the testimony just not now and therefore the defense got the information in anyway - even with a tongue lashing. He is risking his career, but he is getting it in, because the judge is scared of an appeal later.

Agreed. Personally, I think JP should do everything and anything he can to make sure this does not end with a mistrial or get verdict turned on appeal. I believe that even if there is an appeal for ineffective counsel (which I believe the DT is totally all on board with) that it will be proven that Mr. Baez was given every chance available to do his job and allow his client a fair trial. It may be frustrating that this may take a couple extra weeks or that Baez didn't get a punishment harsher than he deserved, but I think that is being done to prevent a mistrial......hopefully this all works and this case can be seen to the end. JP obviously has amazing restraint.

 

[biggirl]

He is NOT an expert!!! GEEZ JB had to go to Nebraska and to Netherlands to find "experts" to testify for him. GEEZ ALSO I feel sorry for HHBP, He has has had to do triple the work of a normal trial Judge just to try and cover for all the mistakes the DT has made. GEEZ

 

[USARDOG]

Perry stated the other day that both sides have engaged in game playing.

Neither side should be engaging in any game playing IMHO this is a DP case. No room for game playing on any side. JMHO.

I respectfully disagree. "Game playing" is an essential portion of the trial process. A good attorney knows what games to play and how far to push them, i.e., Johnny C in the OJ trial. "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," This whole thing was a game and it got OJ out of a murder conviction. IMO an attorney who doesn't play games is about to be out played. I recently got to watch a brilliant attorney play the, "I'm only a poor'ol country boy," game and he was amazing at it.