4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

[SMK777]

Yes Scott Reisch on his last update said that that crucial detail on timing hadn't been confirmed. Before or after the murders

Either way: It casts further suspicion on Kohberger, but isn’t really hard evidence, IMO.

 

[Nova]

I cannot make it out really well either but, yes, MM is the main theme and I don't see a photo of E on there at all. As egotistical and eccentric as BK seems to be, it just feels like something he might do so he could be a part of the discussion. He gets to talk to others, about what he did. Anonymously. Idk that it's him, and if it's not, it's not, but whoever it is, chose a photo with a striking resemblance to BK.

Indeed. And there's nothing in what I read that dates the photos, so as others have noted, it might be a "tribute" page built after the murders. In theory.

The image of PR is eerie, I agree.

 

[Nova]

I would think this to be true as he was a minor. If they didn't know why he left school, or they'd pulled him out to, say, attend home school, they could have stated the years he attended school there, but I don't think they can go much further into details.

IANAL and not an expert on HIPAA rules, but I think confidentiality requirements have become pretty strict, even for adults.

I am a retired educator, but if you asked me about one of my students who had taken a leave for any reason, really, or who had a learning disability, say, I would certainly leave that info out of my response.

 

[Nova]

Either way: It casts further suspicion on Kohberger, but isn’t really hard evidence, IMO.

If BK built a shrine on his phone before the murders, I think it is very significant evidence when combined with his DNA on the sheath, the repeated appearances of his car on surveillance video, turning off his phone for a short period including the time of the murders, etc.

I don't know what constitutes "hard" v. "soft" evidence. This isn't to say you used the term incorrectly; I'm just admitting I don't really know what it means. (Yes, despite appearances, English is my first language.)

 

[cottonweaver]

Either way: It casts further suspicion on Kohberger, but isn’t really hard evidence, IMO.

Indeed. Can the People and Banfield's leakers ( 'sources') be relied on? What's the ratio? I followed the case for at least 60 threads ( Threads containing links from both) Recall we all spent a lot of time trying to separate wheat from chaff

 

[SMK777]

If BK built a shrine on his phone before the murders, I think it is very significant evidence when combined with his DNA on the sheath, the repeated appearances of his car on surveillance video, turning off his phone for a short period including the time of the murders, etc.

I don't know what constitutes "hard" v. "soft" evidence. This isn't to say you used the term incorrectly; I'm just admitting I don't really know what it means. (Yes, despite appearances, English is my first language.)

Yes, point well taken.
I only meant that since the pictures were out there on social media, it might be normal enough to save some of them without being necessarily involved with the killings, although taken together with other evidence, it factors in.

But for example, I’ve seen Facebook pictures of people with their dogs, or their yard, and saved them because I liked the pictures or the dogs etc., without having any obsession or intentions whatsoever. A young guy might want to save pics of Maddie for similar innocuous reasons. But of course added to other evidence it’s somewhat telling.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Updated pic of house. First time I'm seeing this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628886018383282177

 

[Nila Aella]

IMO the PR stuff is nonsense. Anyone knows how social media companies respond to preservation of evidence requests knows that if PR was BK that account would have been suspended on THE EXACT DAY warrants were issued on 12/30. The same day his Reddit account was taken down and likely any aliases he had on Reddit.

Facebook and Reddit's hardware/software fingerprinting is practically unavoidable. No amount of VPNs or Incognito mode or new computers or fresh installs are going to avoid them for long. It's the same technology that powers their Ad Network stalking.

Finding duplicate accounts is trivial to them. If an account wasn't suspended on 12/30 (like the Reddit account)...it wasn't BK. If he did have any aliases they were likely all suspended on that day.

MOO of course.

Exactly why it would be interesting to know who posted the photos, when, and if they have any close connection to this case. JMO

Updated pic of house. First time I'm seeing this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628886018383282177

Boarded up and a perimeter fence.
MOO

 

[maskedwoman]

IANAL and not an expert on HIPAA rules, but I think confidentiality requirements have become pretty strict, even for adults.

I am a retired educator, but if you asked me about one of my students who had taken a leave for any reason, really, or who had a learning disability, say, I would certainly leave that info out of my response.

Even when HIPPA is not involved, companies and schools put as little in writing as possible. All my company will do is give start date and separation date, with no details at all. Sort of the corporate version of name, rank and serial number.

 

[maskedwoman]

Either way: It casts further suspicion on Kohberger, but isn’t really hard evidence, IMO.

Do you mean that it would only be circumstantial rather than direct evidence? I just wanted to make sure I was following you. I think the weight of as evidence might depend on whether they are pictures he took, or items he poached from the SM accounts.

If he was watching any of them closely enough to take his own pictures of them, I think that would nicely support the stalking and targeted attack theory. Especially if the pictures were taken at odd times, and the subject was clearly unaware they were being photographed. Like at night when leaving work, or through a restaurant window, etc.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Also, people often cite (Jennifer Coffindaffer is one of them) PR's mentioning of the sheath on 11/30 as the smoking gun proving that he's BK. But the sheath was being talked about on social media forums as far back as 11/17. By dozens of different users. In the same places that PR was likely frequenting.

All MOO, of course.

Is it possible the person/people who found the bodies saw the sheath?

 

[meatandcookies]

Boarded up and a perimeter fence.
MOO

SBM. Assuming the jury will be going through there, then.
MOO.

 

[PrairieWind]

SBM. Assuming the jury will be going through there, then.
MOO.

Quite possible. I wonder arrangement the State has made with the property owners.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Quite possible. I wonder arrangement the State has made with the property owners.

What's the purpose of the jury going in there vs photos of the layout?

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629161381026009089

“Demolition also removes efforts to further sensationalize the crime scene. We are evaluating options where students may be involved in the future development of the property.”

To honor Kaylee, Madison, Xana & Ethan, the university is creating a memorial garden. It will also be a place of remembrance of other students lost & a place of healing for those left behind. A university committee, with student representation, is developing a plan.

 

[NyxNY]

A 63 document filing Response to Request for Discovery State's Response to Defendant's First Supplemental Request for Discovery. (Way too much for my exploded brain to really say what that’s about.)

New document added to gag order, looks to me like a response is due 3/4.

Lots of discussion here about change of venue and how knowledge of the case factors into choosing a jury.

Ashleigh Banfield /People say an investigative source revealed BK had photos of one of the students on his phone. We are thinking Maddie, due to SG’s previous comments that he thought Maddie might have been the target.

A couple of news articles discussing BK as a kid, maybe just a normal kid. One article discussed his heroin use, and massive weight loss in high school. And a tummy tuck. But we aren’t going to talk about that anymore, k?

We did talk about Murphy again. He’s good with us.

That’s all I can think of.

Soooo, can you do this every Friday, and I will just follow you?

 

[wary]

What's the purpose of the jury going in there vs photos of the layout?

Much easier for people to understand the layout, if they’re there in person.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

What's the purpose of the jury going in there vs photos of the layout?

I'd think to prove/disprove the timeline. The prosecutor could go into detail on their theory with all of the alleged actions and show how that fits or conversely the defense could want to walk the property with the jury to show how the timeline doesn't make sense. However, I would think the prosecutor or defense making a video would be better than being handed pieces of paper and that would be something that could be done at a later date without requiring a jury to actually go there.

 

[PrairieWind]

What's the purpose of the jury going in there vs photos of the layout?

Either side could claim that photos alone don't proved a real context and the jurors need to actually be there. I'm not sure what that argument would be at this time, and maybe neither side will make that assertion. In which case the home will be turned back over to the owner.

 

[Deleted member 718]

UI to demolish home of King Road homicides

Three months since the murders of Xana Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves, the victims’ white house still stands as a reminder of the Vandal community’s loss. A Friday communication from University of Idaho President Scott Green announced plans to demolish the home...

www.uiargonaut.com

A Friday communication from University of Idaho President Scott Green announced plans to demolish the home, establish scholarship funds and create a memorial garden.

King Road home

The owner of the home has granted UI ownership of the King Road property. In the interest of moving forward and deterring sensationalized media, the home will be demolished as soon as possible, according to UI Senior Director of Communications Jodi Walker.

“We’re really determined to maintain their dignity,” Walker said. “There’s definitely still interest (in the house).”

UI’s outsourced security force, Hells Canyon Security, has been doing additional rounds on King Road, Walker said.

“We will never forget Xana, Ethan, Madison and Kaylee,” Green wrote in his communication. “I will do everything in my power to protect their dignity and respect their memory. Together we will rebuild and continue to support each other.”