7/23/2010 Lisa and Hank Croslin Arrested

[LotsaLatte]

The guy on the video had his name loud and clear on it. I found him in PCSO bookings. No surprise why.

Wow! I got it, thanks! Nice. I guess the friend was lured in on the 23rd himself - if this is the same guy. Sure looks like him. Ahem, I wonder if Hank or Lisa maybe offered some information to LE to help themselves maybe get a break? Can they even do that at this point? Gheeez, I'd love to see these people turn it around but I just don't think that will happen.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Lotsa, he double or tripled talked to me and I did hear "Hank use to work for me" sort of. They cut the video at that point. His name was on the ticker or banner of the video.

Hi Kant!!

I wonder what kind of work Hank Sr. was doing for this guy? I wonder if this guy is also friends with Ronald and if there is any connection?

I have been thinking about this arrest all night and wonder if maybe Hank Sr. and Lisa have gone undercover. (Wishful thinking I know) Maybe LE is hoping having them behind bars with Tommy and Ronald it will help in getting info. Trying to look for something positive since nothing positive has happen in the Haleigh Case.

UPDATED: 6:39 pm EDT July 26, 2010
"Snip" http://www.news4jax.com/news/24393366/detail.html

Video: Entire Croslin Family In Jail http://www.news4jax.com/video/24400135/index.html


Rodney Graham, who said he's friends with Hank Sr., said police lured him in, knowing that he has always battled with substance abuse addiction.

"He was entrapped. He came here because he worked for me," Graham said. "When he came here, the officer offered him crack and he took it."

 

[SoSueMe]

Oh no, he thinks RC has something to do with Haleigh going missing. I got the feeling NG cut him off of that a few times but she wasn't there today.

At the very least, Klaas is saying Ron's lifestyle is why Haleigh is now missing. JMO, because I've never seen Klaas actually point a finger directly at RC.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

BBM

Ronald and Crystal are a year and a half apart in age.

If I am not mistaken Ronald is 6 years older than Crystal. At least from what the police report states. 6-7 Yrs older than Misty if I got the math right.

"Snip" http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

Ronald is 6 yrs older than Crystal Sheffield. If she got pregnant with Haleigh at 14yrs that means Ronald was already an adult. He would of been 20 yrs old if I got the math right.

Sheffield, Crystal Diane DOB 8-30-1989
19yrs old when Haleigh went missing. (From police report)

Croslin, Misty Jeanette DOB 12-9-1991
Age now is 18, 16 yrs old when she hooked up with Ronald, so he is 6-7 yrs older than Misty?. 17 yrs old when Haleigh went missing.

Cummings Ronald Lemyles DOB 10/29/83
25 yrs old when Haleigh went missing.

 

[SoSueMe]

Does this town have a medical clinic for drug addicts or somewhere addicts can go to get help? Geez, this town and the surrounding areas are in dire need of some way to help the impoverished drug addicted. I know it's up to the drug addict to want to clean up their act, but even if they do, where do they go? I think at one time Hank would have been willing to get Lisa help if he knew how (from what he said during one of his jailhouse visits with his children).

 

[atherella]

Crystal just turned 25 on her last birthday (April 30th, 1985)

Ronald is 26 years old. (DOB 10/29/83)

They are a year and a half apart. Crystal was 18 years old when HaLeigh was born on August 17, 2003.

Keep in mind the mistakes that were made in the original police report - it even lists HaLeigh as a male.

 

[SoSueMe]

Crystal just turned 25 on her last birthday (April 30th, 1985)

Ronald is 26 years old. (DOB 10/29/83)

They are a year and a half apart. Crystal was 18 years old when HaLeigh was born on August 17, 2003.

Keep in mind the mistakes that were made in the original police report - it even lists HaLeigh as a male.

I did remember there wasn't much of an age difference between Crystal and Ron, but I didn't have the particulars.

Geez, the earlier media reports were a mess too. I think they were calling Misty a cousin or even making her out to be one of the children.

ETA: This isn't off topic (at least not my first paragraph) because it goes to the statement by MK on NG (hopefully). LOL

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Crystal just turned 25 on her last birthday (April 30th, 1985)

Ronald is 26 years old. (DOB 10/29/83)

They are a year and a half apart. Crystal was 18 years old when HaLeigh was born on August 17, 2003.

Keep in mind the mistakes that were made in the original police report - it even lists HaLeigh as a male.

You are correct, the original police report and the second one both have CS birthday wrong. I just went on her my-space page and she shows as being 25yrs old. So now I to am confused on how old she really is..how long her and Ron were together and at what age did she really get pregnant with Haleigh. I got thrown off by Klass last night when he mentioned CS being 14yrs old and being with Ronald. We do know that Misty just turned 18 this past Dec though and Ron turned 26. So he is almost 8 yrs older than Misty?

 

[Chablis]

You are correct, the original police report and the second one both have CS birthday wrong. I just went on her my-space page and she shows as being 25yrs old. So now I to am confused on how old she really is..how long her and Ron were together and at what age did she really get pregnant with Haleigh. I got thrown off by Klass last night when he mentioned CS being 14yrs old and being with Ronald. We do know that Misty just turned 18 this past Dec though and Ron turned 26. So he is almost 8 yrs older than Misty?

And Ron will be 27 before Misty is 19.

I think Mark Klaas is thinking of Amber Brooks, but she wasn't 14. Maybe he knows something we dont?

 

[atherella]

And Ron will be 27 before Misty is 19.

I think Mark Klaas is thinking of Amber Brooks, but she wasn't 14. Maybe he knows something we dont?

Amber was also 18 when she had her child. (Keeping in mind that we do not know if said child is Ronald's)

 

[Chablis]

Amber was also 18 when she had her child. (Keeping in mind that we do not know if said child is Ronald's)

Thats true, but I have seen more than enough to know that everyone knows this baby is Rons, I understand some people dont like to acknowledge that Ronald could be the dead beat Mom some have accused Crystal of, but we have had the grandma call the cops saying Ron was outside Ambers and they were afraid he wanted his "son" and Misty also wrote on Ambers myspace she will take her man and child, so the shoe fits, and can anyone prove that Cummings is not on the birth certificate? And didnt Ronald during an interview admit its possible his son? I dont know why its so unbelievable.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

:waitasec: Hmm...Hank Sr. already plead no contest. I wonder when all this happen? I have not seen any updates on the docket. Or is that just the way it works? Can someone just enter a plea without going to court? I looked in Putnam and St.John's and found nothing.

Croslin's Parents Busted In Drug Sting, Hank Sr. pleaded no contest and is awaiting sentencing

Posted: 8:09 am EDT July 27, 2010
"Snip" http://www.wftv.com/news/24405478/detail.html

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Lisa Croslin and Hank Croslin, Sr. were arrested Friday night during a neighborhood drug sting.

Putnam County deputies say the two went to a drug house where Hank bought cocaine. He pleaded no contest and is awaiting sentencing.

 

[SoSueMe]

:waitasec: Hmm...Hank Sr. already plead no contest. I wonder when all this happen? I have not seen any updates on the docket. Or is that just the way it works? Can someone just enter a plea without going to court? I looked in Putnam and St.John's and found nothing.

Probably at the arraignment the next day and he pled NOLO at that time. I believe they all go before a judge within 24 hours or so.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Only quoting you to jump off of your post, Chablis.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not making fun of them. There is nothing funny about this situation. But let's not forget why we're all sitting here: there's a little girl missing and Bubba and Sissy are the ones who are holding back information and sending the cops on some crazy good chase....
"She's in this river, Joe took her, Joe may have thrown her in the river, it might have been three a.m, I saw a three, it came to me in a dream, I saw her in the van, I was high on Xanax, I don't do drugs, they came looking for a gun, there was no gun, I was there at 10pm, I wasn't there I just lied to get out of jail the second (or was it a third?) time". I think we get the point.

Just a note that Mark McClish, a statement analysis expert, calls three the "liar's number."

Over the years, I and other interviews have found that when deceptive people have to come up with a number they will often use the number three. Therefore, the number three has become known as the “liar’s number.” The one exception is when alcohol is involved. We all know what that deceptive number is; “Officer, I only had two drinks!”

Although it was not one of the study’s objectives, the study showed that the number three often appeared in the deceptive portion of the statements. The participants had to write an untruthful statement for the time period of 1:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Because of these time parameters, most of the participants started their deceptive story by mentioning the 1:00 time period as in, “At 1:00, I ...” As they continued to write their deceptive story, the participants would also mention several other time references as they wrote about what they allegedly did. Most of them would end the deceptive portion of their story by mentioning the 6:00 time reference as in, “At 6:00, I …” As instructed, they finished their story with a truthful statement.

The study showed that when the participants wrote their deceptive statements, 48% of the time the first time reference mentioned was 3:00 or 3:30. This does not include the 1:00 p.m. time reference which was the starting point for their deceptive statement. The breakdown of what time reference was mentioned first when writing a deceptive story is as follows.

http://http://www.statementanalysis.com/research/

I wish that either Misty or Tommy would open their mouth and have something other than a lie come out.

 

[SoSueMe]

:waitasec: Hmm...Hank Sr. already plead no contest. I wonder when all this happen? I have not seen any updates on the docket. Or is that just the way it works? Can someone just enter a plea without going to court? I looked in Putnam and St.John's and found nothing.

Madj, do you remember the first videos we saw of Ron, Tommy and Misty after they were arrested? Remember Ron in his orange jumpsuit and the video was really fuzzy? That would have been his arraignment and because he pled not guilty, he went on to bigger and (evidently) better things. In other words, he was going to retain an attorney and fight the charges (or wheel and deal).

Isn't it strange that Hank just gave up and pled NOLO? It makes me think maybe he wouldn't mind being in jail for a while. Like some pointed out, he needs medical attention.

 

[Dion]

Hank and Lisa were caught with $20 of crack between the two them. Really that's nothing - it's scraping the bottom of the barrel of addiction.

I don't know anything about the law in Florida - could they get sentenced to rehab? I don't need to see them punished for this, they are in living hell already. I would like to see them sentenced to a long stay in rehab of some kind, even if it happens to be in a jail setting. They seem to me to be so helpless and hopeless - just careening from one disaster to another.

Despite (for the most part) being the cause of their own misfortune, It's so difficult to watch, and not have compassion.

I sincerely hope they get the treatment they need.

 

[B4igo2it]

Who is that guy that claims to be Hanks friend? The police lured Hank to the crack house....:innocent:

arrested 2 hours before the Croslins

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=762058&IMG=29494

 

[azwriter]

Hank and Lisa were caught with $20 of crack between the two them. Really that's nothing - it's scraping the bottom of the barrel of addiction.

I don't know anything about the law in Florida - could they get sentenced to rehab? I don't need to see them punished for this, they are in living hell already. I would like to see them sentenced to a long stay in rehab of some kind, even if it happens to be in a jail setting. They seem to me to be so helpless and hopeless - just careening from one disaster to another.

Despite (for the most part) being the cause of their own misfortune, It's so difficult to watch, and not have compassion.

I sincerely hope they get the treatment they need.

Although that $20 of crack seems like a small amount, Dion, remember Lisa and Hank were on probation when they were arrested this time.
jmo

 

[B4igo2it]

for some reason LE wants all of these players in jail at the same time. Through their carelessness, ignorance, whatever you want to call it - each one allowed LE to accomplish its task at hand. The "Hardy Boys" are pretty smart if you ask me. They have all the time in the world to put all their ducks in a row; and it appears that is what they have been working on.
You have to admit, it was pretty bold for Sheriff Hardy to make the statement that this is a murder investigation, tell family members to plan the funeral (not a memorial-mind you) when "we" have no evidence before us. Just what evidence do they actually have? What's the next trick up their sleeve? They certainly have kept us guessing. The disappearance of Miss HaLeigh Cummings is most definitely NOT a cold case file!
I believe Hank Sr and Lisa's arrest is not a charity arrest to give them basic life necessitites - there's definitely more to it IMHO.
(amazing what $20 can get you now days ... a jail sentence for 2)

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Hank and Lisa were caught with $20 of crack between the two them. Really that's nothing - it's scraping the bottom of the barrel of addiction.

I don't know anything about the law in Florida - could they get sentenced to rehab? I don't need to see them punished for this, they are in living hell already. I would like to see them sentenced to a long stay in rehab of some kind, even if it happens to be in a jail setting. They seem to me to be so helpless and hopeless - just careening from one disaster to another.

Despite (for the most part) being the cause of their own misfortune, It's so difficult to watch, and not have compassion.

I sincerely hope they get the treatment they need.

It's not the amount they had, it's the fact they broke their probation by having any. $20 crack divided by 2 = probation violation.

They knew they weren't supposed to have any at all. :snooty: This only shows how horrible an addiction can be. The spotlight is on their family and they didn't care. Sad, sad, sad. :shakehead: